Submissive wife

[lil_slave_rose]

Ok, I'll stop posting pics!

We both know that Jane is underweight, but there is reasons for it. The reason is not Randex's demand. Randex himself likes also little more muscels.

BUT I'm very, very anxious to see writings (from women) about obviously overweight ladies!!!! How they tell it is sick and so on. You can be sure that FAT KILLS more people in western countries than bones.

It's not political correct to be horrified about fat woman! But its seems to be ok to criticed thin woman!!!

And I say it again: This is a erotic fantasy forum (also underweight people can have fantasies) NOT DR PHIL'S PROGRAM!!!

Of course you have right to write what you want - pity that very soon you healthy fasists are alone (with your beautifull fat)

overweight or underweight neither one is healthy. i am overweight, and i know it, and have comments made about me constantly, i'm fine with that, it's not healthy, they are right. we were all making observations and comments that YOU asked for. i'm sorry, but jane is unhealthily skinny, just as i am overweight which also causes health problems. i can't say that i agree with you that 'fat' kills more than 'skinny' does....but if that's the statistics you'd like to have us believe (with no proof of it) then so be it, but when you ask for comments on pictures, don't expect to get them all the way you want them because it won't happen.

 

[lil_slave_rose]

If I post a pic of my overweight girlfriend and ask people help our fantasy, there will not be very many negative answers about her outlook. I doubt that you don't write us and tell how unattractive she is.

I know very well that our culture admirer more thin people than fat, but very often we can hear comments that Jane's outlook tells something about possible mental sicknes or anorexia.

When I see here in Lit a pic about fat lady I don't write to her taht she has to loose weight before she can intrest me sexually or I sure don't say that she's somehow wierd and give a lesson how to cook vegetary food!

If she asks me to write a fantasy I will do it or not, but you can be sure that I don't give anykind recepts here - only sex fantasies.

well, see, maybe in the APF that's the case, but seeing as this is not a pic forum, i'm not even sure why you posted here to begin with, you asked for comments, we made them, and i'm sorry if they offended you...as that was not the intent of my comments. i guess what i'm saying is if you don't want both sets of comments (from those who agree with you, and those who don't) then you probably shouldn't post a thread asking for everyone's comments on something. *shrugs*

 

[Etoile]

it's not about seeing 'skinny' people, i'm sorry, but the women in those pictures looks anorexic. i don't think any of the comments made were made to hurt anyones feelings..just observations, and concern.....

Exactly.

 

[randex]

hmmm...and...hmmm..

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[Etoile]

I'm very sorry that I tough this is a erotic (BDSM) fantasy forum.

Ah, see, there's your problem. BDSM Talk is about discussion, and BDSM Cafe is about chat. Neither of them are really about fantasies. That's best put in SRP, the PG, or Story Ideas if you want to go that route.

 

[Daddyslilpet]

Ah, see, there's your problem. BDSM Talk is about discussion, and BDSM Cafe is about chat. Neither of them are really about fantasies. That's best put in SRP, the PG, or Story Ideas if you want to go that route.

That's odd because just looking at the BDSM Cafe I find the following threads

Details for Plausible BDSM Scenes

none of my business, but...

The Scene That You Crave

Those are just on page 1 and all deal in fantasies. The Cafe was, I was under the impression (and Catalina please correct me if I am wrong), supposed to be for this sort of thing just not for actual sexual role playing threads.

 

[Etoile]

That's odd because just looking at the BDSM Cafe I find the following threads

Details for Plausible BDSM Scenes

none of my business, but...

The Scene That You Crave

Those are just on page 1 and all deal in fantasies. The Cafe was, I was under the impression (and Catalina please correct me if I am wrong), supposed to be for this sort of thing just not for actual sexual role playing threads.

Hmm, that's true. I guess the difference I see between those threads and this one is that in this thread, we're being asked to participate in somebody's sex life. I see this thread as kind of like the ones where a submissive comes on the board and says "my Master said I have to come up with my own punishment for thus-and-so, what do you think I should do?" In both cases, I feel like I'm being asked to participate in a relationship I have no interesting in being in. The fantasy threads in the cafe are equal-opportunity hypotheticals; this thread is asking for participation ("tell us how you want to humiliate her").

I'm only speaking for myself, of course - others may have different reasons why they feel this thread doesn't belong here.

 

[lil_slave_rose]

"but seeing as this is not a pic forum, i'm not even sure why you posted here to begin with, you asked for comments, we made them, and i'm sorry if they offended you...as that was not the intent of my comments. i guess what i'm saying is if you don't want both sets of comments (from those who agree with you, and those who don't) then you probably shouldn't post a thread asking for everyone's comments on something. *shrugs*"

Did I ask your comments in this thread?

I asked those in APF and got many. There was one negative and I didn't react. Why? Because APF is different place. Here, in this thread I only asked you to join our fantasy. I didn't ask your opinion about our weigh problems.

You say that this is a open forum and everyone can write what he/she wants. Ok, lets discuss about cars then. Or you can continue that cause I go somewhere else talking about sexual fantasies.

I'm very sorry that I tough this is a erotic (BDSM) fantasy forum.

Now I also know that here in BDSM CAFE really is MENU.

I'm really dissapointed that some people (mostly women) can't take part to conversation about pure fantasy without being bitches against other's outlook.

I repeat: I didn't ask food recepts. In the name of freedom to speak, you can speak but I (and probaply many other fantasier) am dissapointed and feel sorry.

look, the comments made were not mean ones, they were made out of pure concern for your wife, Jane, as she looks very sick, andi don't mean 'sick' as in unattractive or ugly, i'm saying that being that skinny is not HEALTHY....technically you did ask for comments by starting this thread in the first place, and then when there were no comments for a day, you decided to say something else to get people to comment..so we did..and now you are unhappy about our comments. you're right this is a BDSM forum, but we are not here to look at pics and join in on 'what we would want to do to your wife' we saw concern when looking at those pictures..and stated our concern, if you can't handle that..then i'm sorry..and maybe you should stay on the APF where you will get the 'ohhh i wanna fuck her like x,y,z,' instead of honest, heart felt responses....

 

[randex]

honest?

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[lil_slave_rose]

"instead of honest, heart felt responses...."

Yes, I get it.

Earlier in this thread I asked people turn to APF site to write and join our fantasy.

Now it's totally clear that THIS PLACE IS WRONG PLACE TO IMAGINE AND FANTASY. Here people are serious. They also take care of you and your healt. How nice, and maybe also exating???

I though first that the reason for not-join-fantasy is Janes outlook? Am I wrong?

Now I hear that the real reason is that this is wrong place? Am I wrong?

What would be correct place to two underweight BDSM persons who also likes to share pics?

the APF is a great place to share your pics, you'll get the comments you are so wanting, as you seen. the BDSM forums are to chat with like minds that have interests in the BDSM lifestyle....the talk forum is to ask questions...the Cafe' is to chat about just about anything..as you will see if you browse the threads there....no one is saying you aren't welcome here, it's just pics belong in the APF....that's all...trust me, my Master and i learned some things when we first started posting here too, we didn't get a warm reception by a few, and now i understand why....try just chatting, if you'd like to stay on this forum, instead of asking us to join in on a fantasy we have no desire in joining in on....

 

[SierraMoon]

Postings such as these above are why I don't personally post pictures or talk about my fantasies on these boards..... If I ever got responses like these, I would go and hide my head and never come back here.

The OP was not asking for your thoughts on his wife's medical condition. He was simply asking what you would do to his wife, if you could. If you didn't have anything positive to add to the discussion, I guess my thought would be not to post at all.........

just my .02

(As an afterthought.. the OP asks about his wife being with many men... I don't see posts from any of them?)

 

[catalina_francisco]

Postings such as these above are why I don't personally post pictures or talk about my fantasies on these boards..... If I ever got responses like these, I would go and hide my head and never come back here.

The OP was not asking for your thoughts on his wife's medical condition. He was simply asking what you would do to his wife, if you could. If you didn't have anything positive to add to the discussion, I guess my thought would be not to post at all.........

just my .02

You are entitled to your opinion SM, but some of us were seriously concerned, and as I have said, I have seen this (starving them to skeletal proportions) promoted as the ideal way to treat your sub/slave with concerning rapidity of growth in popularity recently. I am not one to keep quiet when something concerns me because when I was very young I did this sometimes and often seriously regretted it later and for years when those I was concerned about and decided it was nicer to not say something about (not draw attention to myself or upset someone and risk them not liking me or getting angry), ended up seriously hurt....I don't like feeling that way, nor do I like to see people hurt unnecessarily, so I tend to speak out now and risk being unpopular. I can handle being disliked far easier than knowing someone was in danger and I didn't do a thing because I feared how it would affect me. Unfortunately IMHO too many people in this world stand by and keep their mouth shut for fear of saying the wrong thing or offending someone while a lot of people could have been saved by someone saying something sooner.

It is your choice to keep quiet and not get involved, that is not my way and so to speak up in a non-abusive or unaggressive way is my choice when I am seriously concerned. I saw the pictures and slept on it all night...in truth I had trouble sleeping because of my concern for this woman so when I logged on the next morning, I felt it important enough to voice those concerns. None of us are perfect, we just have to find our comfort zones and what we can live with doing or not doing....as a woman and a submissive this was one of the times I could not turn away and hope all was OK while I lived my happy little life in oblivion.

Catalina

 

[SierraMoon]

You are entitled to your opinion SM, but some of us were seriously concerned, and as I have said, I have seen this (starving them to skeletal proportions) promoted as the ideal way to treat your sub/slave with concerning rapidity of growth in popularity recently. I am not one to keep quiet when something concerns me because when I was very young I did this sometimes and often seriously regretted it later and for years when those I was concerned about and decided it was nicer to not say something about (not draw attention to myself or upset someone and risk them not liking me or getting angry), ended up seriously hurt....I don't like feeling that way, nor do I like to see people hurt unnecessarily, so I tend to speak out now and risk being unpopular. I can handle being disliked far easier than knowing someone was in danger and I didn't do a thing because I feared how it would affect me. Unfortunately IMHO too many people in this world stand by and keep their mouth shut for fear of saying the wrong thing or offending someone while a lot of people could have been saved by someone saying something sooner.

It is your choice to keep quiet and not get involved, that is not my way and so to speak up in a non-abusive or aggressive way is my choice when I am seriously concerned. I saw the pictures and slept on it all night...in truth I had trouble sleeping because of my concern for this woman so when I logged on the next morning, I felt it important enough to voice those concerns. None of us are perfect, we just have to find our comfort zones and what we can live with doing or not doing....as a woman and a submissive this was one of the times I could not turn away and hope all was OK while I lived my happy little life in oblivion.

Catalina

He has said that the weight part isn't a bi product of their BDSM relationship. Perhaps she is anorexic, and is seeking help. Perhaps she is anorexic and not seeking help.

Does our slinging nastiness at her appearance help the situation any? Does the board believe that by criticizing her, it's going to make her wake up tomorrow and say "Oh, the people at Literotica think I'm too skinny, I guess I must need to gain some weight".

I'll tell you, on my side of the coin, I'm very overweight and I honestly don't care what you people think about my size. You are words on a board to me, anything that you were to say to me, wouldn't cause me to want to lose weight....

Anyway... my point was.

He asked for males to come in and say how they would humiliate her...... I've only seen females posting in this thread..... perhaps you have chased away anyone who may have wanted to participate.......

again, Just my opinion

 

[randex]

Holy

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[catalina_francisco]

Does our slinging nastiness at her appearance help the situation any? Does the board believe that by criticizing her, it's going to make her wake up tomorrow and say "Oh, the people at Literotica think I'm too skinny, I guess I must need to gain some weight".

Can you show me where I was 'nasty' or 'critical' in a way which was not concern? As for the males, if they are chased away that easily they likely wouldn't have the gonads to do anything they could shoot their mouth off about anyway...or perhaps the males on this board just couldn't think of doing anything humiliating to her because they were also concerned, or the idea didn't appeal to them. Not to mention, this thread referred to one in the APF asking for the same response....it is not something we seem to be that hot on participating in on this forum as has been shown with similar threads. If you want to offer him some of your thoughts on what humiliations you would like to offer, feel free SM. Posters can ask for anything they want, but unless they are my Dominant, I am not obliged to fulfil their requests unless I choose to.

For the record, I am overweight also, same as I have been told in the past I was excessively skinny and needed to put some weight on...did I jump up and down about it? Nah, it is life and as long as F is happy with me, and I feel OK and also have medical evidence I am OK, what is the big deal?!! If I was under or overweight and someone was concerned and it prompted me to have a medical check which showed a problem, I would be happy they were concerned enough to say something. As I said, if people, including myself felt a need to voice our concern, that is for us to own which we have, same as it is for you to own you are not concerned without expecting to be slapped on the wrist for posting. After all, one of the main standpoints of Lit is it's free speech policy...not let's only say sugary, nice things and delete the rest.

Catalina

 

[catalina_francisco]

"It is your choice to keep quiet and not get involved, that is not my way and so to speak up in a non-abusive or aggressive way is my choice when I am seriously concerned. I saw the pictures and slept on it all night...in truth I had trouble sleeping because of my concern for this woman so when I logged on the next morning, I felt it important enough to voice those concerns. None of us are perfect, we just have to find our comfort zones and what we can live with doing or not doing....as a woman and a submissive this was one of the times I could not turn away and hope all was OK while I lived my happy little life in oblivion."

Oh Holy!

And hallelujah...

You can watch women tied or in pain?

But when you see a woman underweight, your inner mother Theresa suddenly pop up? Hey, come on?

So, no fantasy for thin people. We can go and shame...

You know, you need to deal with your attitude problems. Perhaps given you have so much time to spend here making rude comments to everyone because we aren't giving you your candy is an indication you really do need those ideas because you can't provide any of your own. Personally if I were you and you were so hot to do things with your wife I wouldn't be bothered about asking anyone in cyberland, I would just get on with it and spend some quality time with the poor woman. Maybe you need to look at it this way....if you come into our territory and don't think we have a right to say anything, perhaps you also should think before you speak.

Catalina

 

[Etoile]

He asked for males to come in and say how they would humiliate her...... I've only seen females posting in this thread.....

Could you please point me to where he specified that he only wanted responses from men? I didn't see that anywhere.

The OP was not asking for your thoughts on his wife's medical condition. He was simply asking what you would do to his wife, if you could. If you didn't have anything positive to add to the discussion, I guess my thought would be not to post at all.........

I posted for two reasons.

1. I like to hear myself talk.
2. I saw pictures someone who was clearly underweight to the point of being unhealthy, and I saw her spouse claiming that she was just athletic and a former model, not anorexic or sick. My perception was that they were apparently not aware of the dangers of being as thin as she is. I spoke up and said something about that. Later, he acknowledged that she is dramatically underweight and they do know the effects. At no time did I say she was ugly or not deserving of love or too sick for BDSM play.

Should everything always be positive? Can we not have discussion, analysis, and debate? I think we should be able to say what we think, if that's what we want to do. Everybody knows the phrase "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all." Obviously some people choose to ignore that and say nasty things for nasty reasons. But not everybody is that way - some people have other reasons for posting their comments.

 

[lil_slave_rose]

He has said that the weight part isn't a bi product of their BDSM relationship. Perhaps she is anorexic, and is seeking help. Perhaps she is anorexic and not seeking help.

Does our slinging nastiness at her appearance help the situation any? Does the board believe that by criticizing her, it's going to make her wake up tomorrow and say "Oh, the people at Literotica think I'm too skinny, I guess I must need to gain some weight".

I'll tell you, on my side of the coin, I'm very overweight and I honestly don't care what you people think about my size. You are words on a board to me, anything that you were to say to me, wouldn't cause me to want to lose weight....

Anyway... my point was.

He asked for males to come in and say how they would humiliate her...... I've only seen females posting in this thread..... perhaps you have chased away anyone who may have wanted to participate.......

again, Just my opinion

i am very overweight also, and i don't give a rats ass what anyone thinks of me either, but i posted out of concern for the OP's wife. she does not look healthy. the comments that were made were not mean, no one posted for 2 days on the thread so He decided to post something to make others say something..so we did. when you post a thread, you are not always going to get positive feedback or what you want to hear, and if you are going to be scarred for the rest of your life over something someone says on an online forum, well maybe the problems run deeper. we are all people, with opinions, our opinions are not going to match all of the time, that's the beauty of being different. and i dont' think we have chased anyone away, they have probably made their comments on the APF where threads like this belong in the first place....just my two cents

 

[MasterPhoenix]

OK, I have to chime in on this...

I dug up that thread and I have to agree that she does not look healthy.

Honestly if she was presented to Me to play with RT, I would be concerned about harming her.

 

[randex]

Attitude

"I would just get on with it and spend some quality time with the poor woman."

Poor woman? Who has attitude problem??????????

Yes mama, I will spend more time with her. Yes mama, I will eat my supper!

No, we didn´t get our candy. Now its your job to analyse why we didn't.

I think, my conversation here ends now.

Your board doesn't work. Not because negative comments, I'm used to those, but it's not very politle to go personalities. I think weightproblems are personal and somehow emotionally privat things. Even in public forums, specially forums like this!

The clever way should be advise us to other board without saying that "you are so thin that it's not healthy and I don't get any sexual intrests cause you are so thin! Go away...!"

Expecially we were very sorrow when we get food recepts and medical advises. Bad taste. Well, that's life and maybe I have "attitude problems"? At least we don't have dreams anymore, just problems...

 

[lil_slave_rose]

"I would just get on with it and spend some quality time with the poor woman."

Poor woman? Who has attitude problem??????????

Yes mama, I will spend more time with her. Yes mama, I will eat my supper!

No, we didn´t get our candy. Now its your job to analyse why we didn't.

I think, my conversation here ends now.

Your board doesn't work. Not because negative comments, I'm used to those, but it's not very politle to go personalities. I think weightproblems are personal and somehow emotionally privat things. Even in public forums, specially forums like this!

The clever way should be advise us to other board without saying that "you are so thin that it's not healthy and I don't get any sexual intrests cause you are so thin! Go away...!"

Expecially we were very sorrow when we get food recepts and medical advises. Bad taste. Well, that's life and maybe I have "attitude problems"? At least we don't have dreams anymore, just problems...

oh, get real....being a bit dramatic are you not? honestly this thread has gone on for too long and it needs to just be dropped..but if you don't want people to comment on your wifes apparent need to gain some weight, the don't put pictures of her out there for others to comment on .....it's that simple. no one here made fun of her, no one here called her mean names or said she was ugly, they voiced their concern for her health, that's it....and now..this is the last thing i will say on this thread, as i think it just needs to end....

 

[MasterPhoenix]

I'm not one for coming up with an idea to humiliate someone else's sub, anyway... thats why I left the thread alone for so long. *shrugz*