Success

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Let's see...should I go with the thoughts of the greatest soccer player who ever lived and a hero to billions...or the musing of an angry old white man on a porn board? I need some time here...

It depends on who is right, doesn't it? But SUCCESS by any measure is getting the result you want. You see, when I kick your ass in an argument my success is an end I want, and my means is simply the good fortune to be smarter than you. You were doomed before we started.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Yes, all those things Pele mentions are withing ones control and they are great and people need them. However without a decent bit of luck having all those things won't win you the day.

Opportunity however is luck.

I can't believe people are still arguing about this with you.

Prob just coincidence....

People who work 60, 70, 80 hours a week seems to have "all the luck."
Those who sit around waiting for others to give them their "fair share" seem to have no luck.

I can't believe people are still arguing about this with you.

 

[Queersetti]

"“Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity" ~ Seneca

/thread

"Luck is the residue of design"-Branch Rickey

 

[Queersetti]

What else did he do? Enlighten me.

He did Xuxa.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_a7CkOujU5Q/TgXhJT-ojjI/AAAAAAAABrE/xqikJGYy5l8/s640/xuxa14.jpg

 

[bluegypsy]

So what you're saying is he kicked a ball really, really well and a lot of really empty people enjoyed it.

So what you're saying is that you're clearly superior to all those "empty people."

Are you really this joyless and judgmental IRL? If so, it must suck to be you.

 

[Sean Renaud]

He did Xuxa.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_a7CkOujU5Q/TgXhJT-ojjI/AAAAAAAABrE/xqikJGYy5l8/s640/xuxa14.jpg

That's what I'd call success.

 

[jeninflorida]

That's what I'd call success.

yep, because you live in a fantasy bubble

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

So what you're saying is that you're clearly superior to all those "empty people."

Are you really this joyless and judgmental IRL? If so, it must suck to be you.

You're one of those people still supporting Lance Armstrong aren't you? And yes, right now, it "sort of sucks" to be me.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

He did Xuxa.

I have no idea what that is.

 

[islandman]

You're one of those people still supporting Lance Armstrong aren't you? And yes, right now, it "sort of sucks" to be me.

Oh, the irony.

 

[Queersetti]

I have no idea what that is.

Xuxa is a Brazilian singer and TV star. She was pele's girlfriend at one time.

She did a kid's TV show where she would dance around dressed like a stripper while the kids played games and their dads would leer at her from the audience.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

Xuxa is a Brazilian singer and TV star. She was pele's girlfriend at one time.

She did a kid's TV show where she would dance around dressed like a stripper while the kids played games and their dads would leer at her from the audience.

Smells like success to me.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Xuxa is a Brazilian singer and TV star. She was pele's girlfriend at one time.

She did a kid's TV show where she would dance around dressed like a stripper while the kids played games and their dads would leer at her from the audience.

To be fair South of the Border kids shows would get R ratings in America. Say what you like about the Latin countries being prudish is not one of their short comings. Nor is it in Japan where all the kiddy cartoons have nudity or in Europe. Seriously we got what we deserved being descended from people so fucking stuck in the mud the church kicked them out.

 

[bluegypsy]

You're one of those people still supporting Lance Armstrong aren't you? And yes, right now, it "sort of sucks" to be me.

Actually, no. He lied, cheated, bullied, and betrayed, and that disqualifies him from being a role model in my book. Pele hasn't been accused of any of those things, as far as I know.

For what it's worth, I'm not a big fan of soccer, or professional sports in general. But I am willing to recognize and appreciate accomplishments and successes in any endeavor, as long as they aren't gained at someone else's expense. What I don't appreciate, and can't understand, are people who anonymously talk trash from the sidelines, and completely dismiss another person's life work with snarky one-liners.

Btw, I'm sorry to hear about your cancer, and I wish you the best of luck with your treatment. I mean that, Anne. And to bring this post full circle, one of the things that bummed me out the most about Lance's situation is that he actually did a lot of good, and raised a lot of money, for cancer awareness and research. Unfortunately, his charitable foundation is now suffering because he turned out to be such a dick. It isn't fair, but it just goes to show that karma can be a cold, hard bitch.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Wait. . .Anne has cancer too? Isn't this like the third case in the last month. Did the GB get cancer? Have we finally proven that the evil that haunts these boards is trying to kill us.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

Actually, no. He lied, cheated, bullied, and betrayed, and that disqualifies him from being a role model in my book. Pele hasn't been accused of any of those things, as far as I know.

For what it's worth, I'm not a big fan of soccer, or professional sports in general. But I am willing to recognize and appreciate accomplishments and successes in any endeavor, as long as they aren't gained at someone else's expense. What I don't appreciate, and can't understand, are people who anonymously talk trash from the sidelines, and completely dismiss another person's life work with snarky one-liners.

Btw, I'm sorry to hear about your cancer, and I wish you the best of luck with your treatment. I mean that, Anne. And to bring this post full circle, one of the things that bummed me out the most about Lance's situation is that he actually did a lot of good, and raised a lot of money, for cancer awareness and research. Unfortunately, his charitable foundation is now suffering because he turned out to be such a dick. It isn't fair, but it just goes to show that karma can be a cold, hard bitch.

Who said anything about cancer. I'm out of vodka. That sucks. And I don't believe in Karma. You shouldn't either. Good things happen to bad people all the time and vice versa.

If you want to make a hero out of a person that kicks balls, go for it. My Dad was a real hero. He kicked ass. Must be where I got it.

 

[bluegypsy]

Who said anything about cancer. I'm out of vodka. That sucks. And I don't believe in Karma. You shouldn't either. Good things happen to bad people all the time and vice versa.

If you want to make a hero out of a person that kicks balls, go for it. My Dad was a real hero. He kicked ass. Must be where I got it.

I never said he was a hero, but I do think he's qualified to talk about success. And yes, bad things happen to good people (and vice versa). What matters - and what defines their character - is how they respond. Have you ever read "Man's Search For Meaning" by Viktor Frankl? Now that dude is a hero.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Who said anything about cancer. I'm out of vodka. That sucks. And I don't believe in Karma. You shouldn't either. Good things happen to bad people all the time and vice versa.

If you want to make a hero out of a person that kicks balls, go for it. My Dad was a real hero. He kicked ass. Must be where I got it.

What the fuck Ann. It's okay to joke about stupid shit like having cancer, or having a dead man throw up on you or being so fat that your pet bunny runs away from you for fear of being devoured but being out of Vodka?! You monster. I'm out of Vodka and Rum right now and I should have you know that constitutes a genuine emergency. I'm fucking sober right now.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

I never said he was a hero, but I do think he's qualified to talk about success. And yes, bad things happen to good people (and vice versa). What matters - and what defines their character - is how they respond. Have you ever read "Man's Search For Meaning" by Viktor Frankl? Now that dude is a hero.

I don't read much recreationally. Maybe I should have spent more time kicking balls.

 

[SkAoUt]

Who said anything about cancer. I'm out of vodka. That sucks. And I don't believe in Karma. You shouldn't either. Good things happen to bad people all the time and vice versa.

If you want to make a hero out of a person that kicks balls, go for it. My Dad was a real hero. He kicked ass. Must be where I got it.

Just so I get it. Do you have cancer or don't you?

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

Just so I get it. Do you have cancer or don't you?

Huh? You want to get cancer?

 

[Garnate]

Huh? You want to get cancer?

I see what you did there.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

I see what you did there.

I deflect.

 

[Garnate]

I deflect.

I do this also.

 

[snugglestruggle]

Wait. . .Anne has cancer too? Isn't this like the third case in the last month. Did the GB get cancer? Have we finally proven that the evil that haunts these boards is trying to kill us.

Would that evil be named Bert? That name keeps popping up.