Tariff impact is hitting

[BoyNextDoor]

I find it odd that you would accept a price increase without doing your due diligence, but you are my ideal customer. You are a lousy employee though.

All this time and you haven't figured out he's full of shit?

I know he is full of shit. I am enjoying making it obvious.

You two dopes have not got a clue between you.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Dropping all those sugar and corn subsidies would go a long way, as would not using trillions of taxpayer dollars to pay out the bonuses to banks and Wall Street firms.

Damn straight.

Taxes should be collected and used to provide public services, not to prop up failed businesses and dead markets.

 

[toeskr]

I did very well under the soaring stock market when Obama was in office, unlike so many others who whined and moaned how bad things were because they were in cash so as not to be tainted by him.

Though it's funny you think I don't take personal responsibility for myself considering I'm the one who keeps saying I shouldn't have to pay for health insurance, that I'll be happy to pay my own bills rather than help some insurance hack get their third house or second yacht.

Soaring stock market under Obama?
Lol. Well, good for you. I guess you are one that expects Donnie to thank him for paving the way to prosperity. It only took 8 years to get it done and let the next administration take credit.

Thank you for taking personal responsibility for wanting to pay your way, although, it will make you a pariah in your party.

I do like your funny video pics and gifs though.

 

[bellisarius]

You folks might as well start pre-whining in this thread. Gas prices are going to go up over the next month or so. The Iranian oil embargo kicks in on Nov. 4th and the Saudi's aren't going to be able to pick up all the slack and the Chinese are going to play along it seems. Why do you think they might be willing to play along?

 

[IG_88]

You two dopes have not got a clue between you.

We're not the ones starting a thread about rising costs and a few posts later saying you're locked into prices.
Nor are we the ones claiming to be doing budgets but taking what you claim will be a 30 to 40% price increase sitting down.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Some people will still win.
The price of scrap metal will rise.

 

[bellisarius]

Several African nations are rich in Iron ore and/or Bauxite and could easily replace the Chinese as sources. The problem is that they are even more corrupt than the Chinese.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

We're not the ones starting a thread about rising costs and a few posts later saying you're locked into prices.
Nor are we the ones claiming to be doing budgets but taking what you claim will be a 30 to 40% price increase sitting down.

You having trouble with a dose of reality?

 

[runsilent]

Dealing with China is a long game.China has played the long game for thirty years. Yes people get hurt at the beginning but that's how it works. Change is never easy and it takes a while. We are better off in the 30 year long run.

 

[IG_88]

You having trouble with a dose of reality?

Not me having the trouble.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Dealing with China is a long game.China has played the long game for thirty years. Yes people get hurt at the beginning but that's how it works. Change is never easy and it takes a while. We are better off in the 30 year long run.

^^^^^ This

What we have here is in a sea of good economic news, is an attempt to find something, anything, that proves it isn't so.

 

[runsilent]

^^^^^ This

What we have here is in a sea of good economic news, is an attempt to find something, anything, that proves it isn't so.

Please expand your point.

 

[Que]

This kind of thing is what happens when you cross an economic illiterate with a partisan hack.

The very same people that were on board with the idea that manufacturing was never going to return to the United States and that the coal industry was unimportant because it only employed a few people in coal (mining.)

Same people that think a rising stick market with the Fed pumping 80 BILLION a MONTH in free money out there during Obam's "Green Energy Economy" meant something, correctly note the current stock market is over-inflated.

Same people that whine about Walmart employees being eligible for government benefits (as if they would be ineligible if unemployed entirely) are the same ones that believe that there is a multiplier effect on welfare payments...but not on money the government does not take in the form of taxes.

Same people that turn up their nose at Walmarts cheap imports, suddenly are opposed to making foreign goods more expensive.

. . .and of course, Boynextdoor's employer can't simply absorb this cost from his employer's "excess profits."

Society will come to a screeching halt from tariffs (despite the fact it is booming) but will suffer no ill effect from mandating that unskilled, entry-level workers be paid more than they contribute to their employer's profitability.

 

[Que]

Please expand your point.

I think he misunderstood yours. Yours was valid.

 

[runsilent]

This kind of thing is what happens when you cross an economic illiterate with a partisan hack.

The very same people that were on board with the idea that manufacturing was never going to return to the United States and that the coal industry was unimportant because it only employed a few people in coal (mining.)

Same people that think a rising stick market with the Fed pumping 80 BILLION a MONTH in free money out there during Obam's "Green Energy Economy" meant something, correctly note the current stock market is over-inflated.

Same people that whine about Walmart employees being eligible for government benefits (as if they would be ineligible if unemployed entirely) are the same ones that believe that there is a multiplier effect on welfare payments...but not on money the government does not take in the form of taxes.

Same people that turn up their nose at Walmarts cheap imports, suddenly are opposed to making foreign goods more expensive.

. . .and of course, Boynextdoor's employer can't simply absorb this cost from his employer's "excess profits."

Society will come to a screeching halt from tariffs (despite the fact it is booming) but will suffer no ill effect from mandating that unskilled, entry-level workers be paid more than they contribute to their employer's profitability.

I have reread this post several times. I don't understand your point. Educate me.

 

[bellisarius]

Then there is the fact that the market reality doesn't match the rhetoric. Both steel and aluminum prices are down..........a lot. Prices peaked back in Jan.-Mar. and have been steadily falling since then. And Trump is the reason for that if anyone wants to do some research on the subject.

 

[SpeareChucker]

It's anti-Trump fear mongering based upon the desired outcome of Trump failing in time for the 2020 election.

Hypoxia used to have an end-of-the-world claim every single day.
To date, none of it has come true.

 

[Que]

I have reread this post several times. I don't understand your point. Educate me.

Democrats looked for the silver lining economically under Obama. Obama presided over an abysmal recovery that Democrats insisted was the new normal and the fault of greedy 1%ers.

They are now looking to gather together any hint of economic concern to form a dark cloud to hide the current silver,lining.

The current economy is booming because of all the things that were put off from purchase because of the economic uncertainty, taxes, and general.punitive rhetoric and policies towards business that the last administration thought was a good idea.

 

[runsilent]

Then there is the fact that the market reality doesn't match the rhetoric. Both steel and aluminum prices are down..........a lot. Prices peaked back in Jan.-Mar. and have been steadily falling since then. And Trump is the reason for that if anyone wants to do some research on the subject.

You teased the Trump point. What does your research say?

 

[BoyNextDoor]

You can try and shoot the messenger if you want. I c/p from an email I received from my primary equipment supplier. Cisco and Dell have already raised prices 10% and all evidence is that there is another price hike coming. It is October. You do your initial budget forecast in October for the the coming year, or at least I always have.

It is what it is: The tariff impact is hitting

 

[bellisarius]

You teased the Trump point. What does your research say?

Trump raised the quotas and shut down the tarriff's from other Steel and Aluminum producing nations to offset the impact of the Chinese tarriff's. The price bubble was short lived.

 

[SpeareChucker]

There will still be winners making good wages in our now protected steel and aluminum industries...

 

[Que]

There will still be winners making good wages in our now protected steel and aluminum industries...

Not important unless these are Democrot-supporting union workers.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Not important unless these are Democrot-supporting union workers.

Or the claim can be made that President Obama set the stage for those jobs to come back.

 

[Que]

You can try and shoot the messenger if you want. I c/p from an email I received from my primary equipment supplier. Cisco and Dell have already raised prices 10% and all evidence is that there is another price hike coming. It is October. You do your initial budget forecast in October for the the coming year, or at least I always have.

It is what it is: The tariff impact is hitting

Why are sectors that benefited from the previous lack of tariffs more important than the sectors that now benefit?

I would think that a good socialist, such as yourself, would be willing to tighten your belt a bit for the benefit of other struggling workers and the collective good, da?