Thats so gay !

Sillyman said:
You don't seem gay. You seem somewhat pissed off actually.


I'm not pissed off, I'm merely expressing my disagreement with your negative use of the word gay.
 
sexy-girl said:
how does the gay community feel about this

its very common for kids in schools use the word gay as an insult or to say something is bad


is it a product of how our society accepts homophobia ?


does it create a environment where homophobia can develop ?


does it make a difficult environment for young gays to accept themselves as gay and/or come out ?


or is it just meaningless kids stuff ?


what if anything should parents/adults/teachers do about it ?

I was walking to the campus mail room today and I passed someone talking to a friend about a letter they got and the exact words were "wow, what gay paper, this paper is so gay!"
I'm tired of its missuse, i'm tired of the over use, I'm just tired of that expression used anyone outside of the gay community oddly if that makes any sense at all.
Its desensatised with a bad rap. ::sigh::
 
My sister says it sometimes,but she uses it as slang because besides just me being gay,she has alot of friends that are gay both male and female...and is quick to jump on someone if they are using it to be homophobic. So it doesn't bother me when she or someone else uses it as part of their slang,not intentionally using it to be homophobic.
 
I admit it, it's my fault. All the straight kids heard the bisexual girl using gay as slang and thought it was so cool. Now I know how the black americans feel about rap, how latin americans feel about tacos and how people of irish descent feel about St. Patrick's Day. :) Yes, I'm joking, duh.

I do use gay as slang all the time. I can't see it as misuse, I really can't. The fact is that straight people had laid claim and even invented the words 'gay' and 'queer' long before we got mixed in. I'm glad that straight people are taking them back into a meaning that really doesn't have homophobic meanings for the most part. I firmly believe that you can not get rid of words, not even racist ones. What you can do, is take them back and change them.

Whoever has seen Clerks II, "porchmonkeys 4 life" while meant as a joke had a level of simple truth to it. By changing the meanings of the words to a reasonable reflection of what they used to mean, you can gauge the changes in how people see things as a society. Maybe, you can even help change things by taking away words from those who would use them to hurt.

I say 'yay' to calling annoying/stupid/flamboyant things gay (or queer). The way I see it, if you're trying to cling to old definitions of words and at the same time trying to change society towards acceptance, you're just being totally gay.
 
I use the term for something lame and stupid like they do on Southpark. I emulate everything I see on Southpark because I'm ten years old.

I'd hate to think it did offend gay people though. I'm gay friendly and if someone gave me a nudge and asked me not to use the word again then I wouldn't (not use it I mean).
 
Every time someone uses the word "gay" as an insult, I kind of just roll my eyes. When I'm real tired of hearing it, I just throw back a "can't you be more original & think of something to say of your own?"

:rose:
 
human_male said:
I use the term for something lame and stupid like they do on Southpark. I emulate everything I see on Southpark because I'm ten years old.

I'd hate to think it did offend gay people though. I'm gay friendly and if someone gave me a nudge and asked me not to use the word again then I wouldn't (not use it I mean).


Nudge.
 
to me the sentence, is a lack of manners, and bad behaviour, so if anyone says it. Then I am not really that friendly with them.....

Thank goodness, we don´t have a Danish sentence for it..............


yet.
 
sexy-girl said:
how does the gay community feel about this

its very common for kids in schools use the word gay as an insult or to say something is bad


is it a product of how our society accepts homophobia ?


does it create a environment where homophobia can develop ?


does it make a difficult environment for young gays to accept themselves as gay and/or come out ?


or is it just meaningless kids stuff ?


what if anything should parents/adults/teachers do about it ?

Boy! Good question! I am a lesbian with a son and he came home one day from elementary school with that phrase! I jumped all over him for saying it explaining to him why he should not use it. He is now 19 soon to be 20 and he still uses the phrase not meaning it as a negative remark but I still get onto him about using it. It has become a joke between us now. But I now hear some of the younger gay kids say it. It seems as though it is a part of the English language without it having the same negative connotation it had when it first hit the street. Evolution of the English language.
 
I don't think they have the slightest idea what it means when they say that. If they do then it's obviously an attack or insult toward "gay" people.

Wasn't the word "square" once used in he same context?


:cool:
 
Sometimes I get really tired of having to be so damn politically correct!
 
Raimondin said:
I don't think they have the slightest idea what it means when they say that. If they do then it's obviously an attack or insult toward "gay" people.

Wasn't the word "square" once used in he same context?


:cool:

No, square did not mean gay.
 
It does have two means though doesn't it? That's a fact. Well, three actually if you count the old fashion meaning of jolly. What's the problem with the fact that the word has two totally different meanings? Look at the word cunt. That's used as an insult but also in a totally different context. If you call someone a cunt are you making a derogatory remark about vaginas? Are you comparing them to a vagina? Of course not.

I'll refrain from using the word gay in that context if it offends gay people on a whole, but I don't understand why it should.
 
My 6 year old son came home with that phrase recently. I was horrified.
I don't consider myself to be gay (although that definition seems to be pretty fluid [no pun intended] around here) but I was very upset with him for adopting that phrase.
Without any sexual connotation at all, I told him that that word did not mean what he thought it meant. There was none of the "It means somebody who's really happy" bullshit. What I told him was that the way he's using the word is wrong. I told him that some people are gay and some people are not. Some people are Chinese and some people are Chilean. And some people are African and some people are Indian. Some people are Baptists and some are Bhuddists. (Don't fret people. A man child of the world is this little boy).
Since that little speech, he resolutely refuses to use that word to decribe something he considers strange or weird. In fact he will correct his other little "friends" when they use the word.

I expect that my son will be the one to jump in when school bullies are making fun of a kid who they deem to be gay. I expect that if my son reaches adulthood and is gay, that he will take the same lessons of self-respect and respect for others that I have tried to teach him and use them to the benefit of himself and others who are are just as maligned.

In short...
I have ALWAYS had a problem with that phrase. Even as a school boy, long before I had contemplated sex with another man, I knew instinctively that it was derogatory and demeaning and wrong.
 
I never used the phrase until I spent two years living with a gay man. He used it all day, every day and I picked up the habit.

I consciously try not to do it around people I don't know.
 
Honestly this is quite a tochy subject for me. It really pisses me off when peaple use the term "gay" in a negitive mannor. I guess it's probably cause I have family that's Jewish, Black, Lesibain, Buddist, Chinese and an aunt who's mentailly retarted. My point is every freakin time I hear "that's gay" or "that's retared" I just want to hit somebody. Ok, now I' just venting, but I felt I needed to say something. :)
 
I do not like the phrase and will ask the person speaking to use a different phrase around me.
 
Paige_the_third said:
Honestly this is quite a tochy subject for me. It really pisses me off when peaple use the term "gay" in a negitive mannor. I guess it's probably cause I have family that's Jewish, Black, Lesibain, Buddist, Chinese and an aunt who's mentailly retarted. My point is every freakin time I hear "that's gay" or "that's retared" I just want to hit somebody. Ok, now I' just venting, but I felt I needed to say something. :)

I have all of the above, and it doesn't bother me. It's a personal thing.
 
I have 2 kids, 16 yr old boy, and 12 yr old girl, and neither use the term in a derogatory way, at least in my presence. I let them know long ago that it was usually used to describe something negatively, and I think that stems from what other in the thread have said: calling someone "gay" is one of the worst things one can say (in many people's minds, not mine). I don't like when people use it around me that way, but it's become a part of the slang vocabulary, and I kinda think it will lose steam in a couple years (for the most part), going the way of "bogue", "square", and any others that are escaping me... but you get the picture. Hopefully younger kids will start using another word predominantly, because I'd think that the continued use of "gay" in negative connotations will eventually label them as homophobic, even if they're not.
 
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