The Clone Age ~ OOC

fuckmeat

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Seeking a nemesis. Open to suggestions.


Whether this develops into a two hander or even a group thing, I feel that a place for discussion and plotwork will be necessary.

The Setting

Quasi sci-fi, set maybe 50 years in the future, somewhen in the first century of the second millennium of mankind's pestilential existence on planet Earth. A time that would go down in history as the clone age; when huge advancements were made in DNA and stem cell technology. Possibilities and applications of this science were years ahead of the laws regarding the ethics of human genetic engineering and the medical/legal ethical codes that would eventually govern its use.

For a short time, perhaps fifty years or so, human life became a commodity. Unborn children could be modified and enhanced. Athletes and the stupidly rich could have their DNA tweaked. Organs were grown, not donated.

Soon, people were grown; accelerated genesis in specially constructed 'hives' to produce fully formed adults within a matter of weeks.

Some basic safeguards were put into place. Physical tells were engineered to make cloned humans easily recognisable. The human brain was tinkered with and developed to become more like a hard drive in format, allowing data to be easily uploaded, modified and erased. The brain's physiology and unconscious governance of bodily functions was downgraded to little more than an operating system. Clones that were not developed specifically for fertility research were sterile. Unlicensed breeding of clones was illegal. Clones cannot contract, carry or pass on infection. The biggest safeguard was the development of genetic bonding. Each clone was made loyal and obedient to a handler by assimilating their DNA. Nobody else could control the clone... well, almost nobody. Twins or close relatives with similar genetics often proved interchangeable. The clone had judgement protocols for taking initiative when their handler was absent or incapacitated. There were no safeguards from the handler's own moral corruption however. Clones were given basic codes of right and wrong but it quickly became apparent that a handler could warp these tenets over time.

Most clones were actually not clones in the true meaning of the word. They were non-identical, unique, an artwork with a designer. Any race or ethnic mix could be accommodated. Unnatural pigmentations could even be engineered, to a point, in skintone, eye colour, hair colour and so on. Each clone had ports for data upload, though it became fashionable for genuine people to wear fake ports as fashion accessories.

The first cloned were female, to explore new techniques for fertility; 'adult' clones that could donate healthy ovaries and wombs, who could carry children as genetically perfect surrogates. The physical indicators that these were clones were therefore centred around fertility, including broad hips, full tits and high hormone levels that gave the clones voracious sexual appetites. Abuse of these sophisticated new labrats was inevitable, widely and salaciously documented but resulted in no criminal punishment for the perpetrators, except when expensive fertility procedures were derailed by these abuses. The media furore at this time compared the female clones to 'dolly' the first cloned sheep. The enhancements made to these fertility subjects ensured that the moniker 'dolly' stuck. It swiftly became a slang term for any cloned human, male or female.

Before long clones left the confines of medical research and became marketable products. At first they were physically identical and sold as workers and servants at but their engineered attractiveness meant that demand for bespoke cloned sex toys quickly ensured a supply. These clones, or dollys, could be uploaded with as much or as little sexual awareness as a buyer wished them to have. Virginal and criminally young looking clones would come gift wrapped either as innocents or as wanton sluts. Most buyers enjoyed training one into the other. Every sexual orientation and taste could be accommodated. Clones could be given masochistic or sadistic tendencies. Some preferred to condition such deviant sexual responses by force to clones unmodified in that area.

'Virginity' has a different meaning where clones are concerned. It can mean that the clone is a brand new and unused one. It can also refer to a clone that has been reconditioned. Reconditioned clones have had their memories erased and (if female) their hymen reconstructed. They are then resold at a lower price, making them available to the less affluent.

'Adult' is also a relative term in these times. No matter how physically developed they are, no clone grown in a hive in just a few weeks can be considered 'adult.' Without the upload of relevant knowledge, personality and so on, the clone is an animal, functioning on a very basic and instinctive level. Physically developed clones that remain animals are therefore referred to as 'stage 1' and those that have been uploaded with knowledge, language and personality are referred to as 'stage 2.'

The words 'person' and 'people' went out of vogue. Uncloned, organic human beings referred to themselves instead as 'citizens' since this was the one thing clones would never become.

The Plot Idea

I have so very many. So many that I'm not even going to try to list them. I don't want to influence the creative thoughts a potential cowriter might have by suggesting just one or two plot ideas.

Just considering the possibilities for this setting is boggling my mind a bit. At this stage, developing the setting is as far as I've really got. Obviously I'd play a female dolly and being a very submissive, masochistic, depraved non-consent junkie, I'd like there to be a few twists to the plot and the journey the clone makes through each owner. Though reconditioning is possible, I can see there being residual echoes of former incarnations that cannot be totally erased and shape the dolly's reactions and thought processes accordingly.

I could write opposite one writer playing a series of owners and traders. I could also maybe even write an incarnation with one writer and then advertise anew for another co-writer once my dolly has been sold/stolen/given away or whatever to somebody else.

I think this could be a really dark and compelling SRP.
 
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What if dolly was purchased by another clone? One who, as you put it, is only a few weeks old, not what we'd consider an adult, but with knowledge.
A stage 2, but with no defined personality (maybe something went wrong in whatever process turns them from animal to person, leaving not a blank slate, but a blank person)
 
What if dolly was purchased by another clone? One who, as you put it, is only a few weeks old, not what we'd consider an adult, but with knowledge.
A stage 2, but with no defined personality (maybe something went wrong in whatever process turns them from animal to person, leaving not a blank slate, but a blank person)

I love this about you.

I love how you think.
 
I love this about you.

I love how you think.

a mix of innocence and amorallity
she wears the stockings because the video tells her to
easily manipulated, but filled with hunger to understand
hunger to understand hunger
the perfect grey
 
This is a very intriguing little world you've built. It has smatterings of I, Robot with the darker tones turned way up.

Vail, I don't think that a clone could buy another, legitimately anyway, since the 'citizens' would probably hold that right exclusively. Not to say that some illicit purchasing wouldn't go on, similar to a black market....
 
This is a very intriguing little world you've built. It has smatterings of I, Robot with the darker tones turned way up.

Vail, I don't think that a clone could buy another, legitimately anyway, since the 'citizens' would probably hold that right exclusively. Not to say that some illicit purchasing wouldn't go on, similar to a black market....

well
1. the clone probably shouldn't be out on her own anyhow
2. our little junkie is likely not exactly wandering around in clone malls.
 
well
1. the clone probably shouldn't be out on her own anyhow
2. our little junkie is likely not exactly wandering around in clone malls.

*Chuckle*

Points taken. I wonder, would they have department stores devoted to all the various varieties of clones you could acquire? Or just the one big corporation taking all orders and shipping the clones out?
 
interesting. this piqued my curiosity. i think the only way a clone could by another is if their owner allowed it like at an auction and the owner is on a yacht and the clone is there raising the paddle as owner says.

as for scenes there's so freaking many like i almost wrote 3 before deciding nope not good enough. this much details requires something elaborately beautiful to compare. i really love this thought so.
 
interesting. this piqued my curiosity. i think the only way a clone could by another is if their owner allowed it like at an auction and the owner is on a yacht and the clone is there raising the paddle as owner says.

as for scenes there's so freaking many like i almost wrote 3 before deciding nope not good enough. this much details requires something elaborately beautiful to compare. i really love this thought so.

I agree, I got hit with like a whole bunch of idaes and then just had to pick one and distill it down.

(though there remain numerous ways Clone A could own Clone B, in some way...)
 
This is a very intriguing little world you've built. It has smatterings of I, Robot with the darker tones turned way up.

Yeah. I kinda stuck A.I. Gattaca and I, Robot in a blender. AI after a fashion but in human cloned subjects rather than 'mecha.'
 
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I'm pretty sure this is going to stay a whirlwind in my head for a while
 
interesting. this piqued my curiosity. i think the only way a clone could by another is if their owner allowed it like at an auction and the owner is on a yacht and the clone is there raising the paddle as owner says.

as for scenes there's so freaking many like i almost wrote 3 before deciding nope not good enough. this much details requires something elaborately beautiful to compare. i really love this thought so.

I know. There are so many possibilities that choosing one seems criminal.

So I won't!

stomps foot and looks resolute
 
Oh the fun that could be had with this.

A Citizen who is given a new Dolly, never touched by anyone. He has the tech and the ability to handle the reprogramming himself. He changes her likes, dislikes and personality every few weeks, maybe even on a shorter time frame. Sometimes she will be an innocent that he corrupts, others she is made to be wanton and corrupt, begging for whatever he is willing to inflict on her.

Of course, such constant reconditioning will make a mess of her brain, and some things will stick, "broken & burned" into place. What things? Who knows? Maybe some aspects that are contradictory, maybe complimentary. Rather than being pissed off with this development, the owner takes delight, choosing new personalities that conflict with the gained hardwired conditioning to see how they would turn out.

Maybe he could experiment in trying to reverse the hardwiring, which could be interesting as well.

Oh... then there are the physical changes that can be made. Imagine a Dolly that is more able to take pain before it becomes debilitating? Or a Dolly that is highly sensitive to one form of stimulation? Of course, the Dolly would be easier to heal, easier to decorate ( tattoos would be easily removed, leaving no trace ) and to fine tune physically ( cosmetic surgery procedures would be very routine ).

Yes, well, those are some of my thoughts on this idea. Nicely done, fuckmeat. Very good base idea there.
 
I can't help, but be reminded of Molly from Nueromancer. When she was younger and needed money she rented out her body. They loaded a temporary personality into her and let her be used by whatever men were willing to pay. She wasn't supposed to remember anything afterwards, but she always did, or at least knew. That's how I remember it anyway.

Not a suggestion just what I thought of when I saw this. Good luck with this one, it has the potential to be excellent.
 
I can't help, but be reminded of Molly from Nueromancer. When she was younger and needed money she rented out her body. They loaded a temporary personality into her and let her be used by whatever men were willing to pay. She wasn't supposed to remember anything afterwards, but she always did, or at least knew. That's how I remember it anyway.

Not a suggestion just what I thought of when I saw this. Good luck with this one, it has the potential to be excellent.

I've not heard of Molly from Neuromancer. I am disappointed that you don't want in though. :kiss:
 
Molly acts as basically a body guard for the main character throughout the book, but you find out some of her past towards the end. Its a really good read and a book that defined cyberpunk to my understanding.

Anyway, its not that I don't want to contribute, but everything that comes to mind immediately feels a little stock. That's always a bad sign for me when I write.
 
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