To be or not to be . . . humiliated

[Couture]

Just what I was thinking! LOL!

Thanks for what you said in reply to me above, too. Made me grin.

Slut

I gotta stop this. If I keep doing this instead of the work I need to be doing, I'll be eating out of a garbage can instead of humping it.

 

[CharleyH]

Just what I was thinking! LOL!

Thanks for what you said in reply to me above, too. Made me grin.

GRRR I dont know the Couture chick enough to spank . . . but and BUTT I sure as hell know where you live!

to both

 

[dr_mabeuse]

If the sex is just a game to you and you don't really put your entire heart and soul into it, then of probably nothing's going to be humilating to you. Nothing's going to be especially exciting either, because you're hiding behind your game role.

I'm not much into humiliation past a certain point, but I understand how it works. It's the thrill of totally exposing yourself to someone else and putting your faith and well-being and self-image on the line. It's the thrill of working without the net of a sex-role or persona to catch you if you fall. It's letting someone see you in all your doubt and fear and vulnerability, and having your feelings of self-esteem and autonomy played with, having your own idea of yourself manipulated and handed back to you.

The kind of humiliation I commonly deal with in my stories is, as I've said, pretty mild, and usually involves forcing a fairly up-tight and self-controlled woman to admit and own up to her own sexual desires. A lot of women have a very strong conflict between being a 'good' girl and being a 'slut', and really have trouble dealing with their own sexuality because of this. Forcing them to acknowledge their own desires to engage in some pretty lewd and liscentious behavior is usually seen initially as humiliating and lowers themselves in their own eyes. That's a common theme in a lot of stories: the good girl turned raging nympho.

---dr.M.

 

[lucky-E-leven]

But even in private it isn't just you and your sub. It's you, your sub, and all the personal baggage he/she carries around.

How's this statement different?

 

[ABSTRUSE]

Mmmm bad me. Ya ya, I will answer it all tomorrow.

But drunk is fun and Abs needs a whipping!

No I need new glasses, I thought you said whippedcream.

another cup of cocoa wasted.


What was the question again?

 

[Couture]

How's this statement different?

Don't be a player hater.

 

[lucky-E-leven]

Don't be a player hater.

A simple question: Do you think a person would feel humiliated if there is not some kind of feeling inside that says it's taboo?

I think it's fundamentally impossible.

~lucky

 

[Guest]

If the sex is just a game to you and you don't really put your entire heart and soul into it, then of probably nothing's going to be humilating to you. Nothing's going to be especially exciting either, because you're hiding behind your game role.

I'm not much into humiliation past a certain point, but I understand how it works. It's the thrill of totally exposing yourself to someone else and putting your faith and well-being and self-image on the line. It's the thrill of working without the net of a sex-role or persona to catch you if you fall. It's letting someone see you in all your doubt and fear and vulnerability, and having your feelings of self-esteem and autonomy played with, having your own idea of yourself manipulated and handed back to you.

The kind of humiliation I commonly deal with in my stories is, as I've said, pretty mild, and usually involves forcing a fairly up-tight and self-controlled woman to admit and own up to her own sexual desires. A lot of women have a very strong conflict between being a 'good' girl and being a 'slut', and really have trouble dealing with their own sexuality because of this. Forcing them to acknowledge their own desires to engage in some pretty lewd and liscentious behavior is usually seen initially as humiliating and lowers themselves in their own eyes. That's a common theme in a lot of stories: the good girl turned raging nympho.

---dr.M.

The Doc's nailed it. For me, anyway. You said it brilliantly in your second paragraph there. "Thrill of totally exposing yourself." Yep, that's it!

Although, probably quite obviously, my level of kink for humiliation goes way deeper than what you stated in your last paragraph there. All along the same lines, though.

Lou

 

[CharleyH]

No I need new glasses, I thought you said whippedcream.

another cup of cocoa wasted.


What was the question again?

I have good things to say to Doc, fashonista and Lucky - they smart - you deter!!! Tomorrow When not sliced by knife OR TIPSY IF i COULD WRITE IT there

 

[Guest]

How's this statement different?

Wording used, Lucky. As soon as you use the word "weakness" in regard to someone's sexual tastes or kinks, or "failure to please" (when pleasing the Dom(me) is afterall the driving force for most subs) for whatever reason, it does tend to get to those who enjoy that particular thing somewhat.

I do get most of what you were trying to say, btw, I just don't happen to agree with most of it.

I've just been stating how I feel, from my own perspective of someone who gets a massive rush and kick out of being humiliated. I just see it for exactly what it is: a big fucking turn on for me!

I don't even get the whys and wherefores, but that doesn't matter.

Sorry if my tone has seemed a bit harsh, but I guess we're talking here about something I get a lot of personal pleasure from.

Kinky slut that I am.

Lou

 

[Black Tulip]

Fascinating, like Mat said.

I'm still finding out about me and my possible kinks.
I do know that the fascination with domination/submission for me is the thought of relinquishing all personal power. So far I have not had the guts to act on it.

So, I agree with Lou. It takes a lot of faith/trust to submit. And you can only do it if you have complete faith in your partner accepting you for what you are.

Ok, carry on.

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[Couture]

A simple question: Do you think a person would feel humiliated if there is not some kind of feeling inside that says it's taboo?

I think it's fundamentally impossible.

~lucky

Sex is that way. It doesn't lend itself easily to our neat customs and conventions. Sex doesn't care about Freud, Jung, or Jesus. Sex just is.

Show me a preacher who doesn't fuck his lover from the back, smack her ass, and pull her hair, and I'll show you one who has fantasies of having clothespins on his nipples and smelling high heel shoes.

Sex is primal. Watch a cat bite another on the neck and fuck, without even taking it to a dinner and a movie. We are more like dogs and cats than we pretend. No amount of makeup, underarm deodorant, and clothes can change it.

Maybe if we didn't have all these kinky fantansies and weird wicked ways, there wouldn't even be people left. We would have gone the way of the dodo bird. Say what you want about us, we like to fuck, and we are pretty damned good at it. We fuck more than cats, dogs, and monkeys all put together.

We are fuckers!

Yahooo!

 

[lucky-E-leven]

Wording used, Lucky. As soon as you use the word "weakness" in regard to someone's sexual tastes or kinks, for whatever reason, it does tend to get to those who enjoy that particular thing somewhat.

I do get most of what you were trying to say, btw, I just don't happen to agree with most of it.

I've just been stating how I feel, from my own perspective of someone who gets a massive rush and kick out of being humiliated. I just see it for exactly what it is: a big fucking turn on for me!

I don't even get the whys and wherefores, but that doesn't matter.

Sorry if my tone has seemed a bit harsh, but I guess we're talking here about something I get a lot of personal pleasure from.

Kinky slut that I am.

Lou

I still maintain that we were talking about different things entirely.

I used the word weakness in an attempt to describe why people feel humiliation. That's it. Nothing to do with enjoying it as a particular kink. Not once did I mention that enjoying humiliation was a weakness. I responded to something else entirely and have said at least three times since then, that I do not think there's anything wrong with it.

Hell, I've felt different degrees of humiliation before. I said that in my last post to you. I was simply trying to get at why it happens. Again, nothing about enjoyment of it or disdain of it.

Carry on, you kinky little slut, but do try to understand how we got here, instead of defending your kink again. I don't have any problems with you or it. I enjoy it in your stories and others' as well and have said so on more than one occasion in the past.

~lucky

 

[Guest]

Sex is that way. It doesn't lend itself easily to our neat customs and conventions. Sex doesn't care about Freud, Jung, or Jesus. Sex just is.

Show me a preacher who doesn't fuck his lover from the back, smack her ass, and pull her hair, and I'll show you one who has fantasies of having clothespins on his nipples and smelling high heel shoes.

Sex is primal. Watch a cat bite another on the neck and fuck, without even taking it to a dinner and a movie. We are more like dogs and cats than we pretend. No amount of makeup, underarm deodorant, and clothes can change it.

Maybe if we didn't have all these kinky fantansies and weird wicked ways, there wouldn't even be people left. We would have gone the way of the dodo bird. Say what you want about us, we like to fuck, and we are pretty damned good at it. We fuck more than cats, dogs, and monkeys all put together.

We are fuckers!

Yahooo!

Luvvit!

*standing ovation*

Yep, you said it! We just love to fuck!!!

 

[lucky-E-leven]

Sex is that way. It doesn't lend itself easily to our neat customs and conventions. Sex doesn't care about Freud, Jung, or Jesus. Sex just is.

Show me a preacher who doesn't fuck his lover from the back, smack her ass, and pull her hair, and I'll show you one who has fantasies of having clothespins on his nipples and smelling high heel shoes.

Sex is primal. Watch a cat bite another on the neck and fuck, without even taking it to a dinner and a movie. We are more like dogs and cats than we pretend. No amount of makeup, underarm deodorant, and clothes can change it.

Maybe if we didn't have all these kinky fantansies and weird wicked ways, there wouldn't even be people left. We would have gone the way of the dodo bird. Say what you want about us, we like to fuck, and we are pretty damned good at it. We fuck more than cats, dogs, and monkeys all put together.

We are fuckers!

Yahooo!

I swear, I must be speaking in heiroglyphics tonight.

~lucky

Thanks anyway. I happen to agree with you, but I don't expect that to get through either.

 

[Couture]

I swear, I must be speaking in heiroglyphics tonight.

~lucky

Thanks anyway. I happen to agree with you, but I don't expect that to get through either.

BTW, I got what you were saying. I was only pullin your chain.

Peace

 

[lucky-E-leven]

BTW, I got what you were saying. I was only pullin your chain.

Peace

Wanna fuck?

 

[Black Tulip]

I swear, I must be speaking in heiroglyphics tonight.

~lucky

Thanks anyway. I happen to agree with you, but I don't expect that to get through either.

Maybe your AV is too distracting?

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[lucky-E-leven]

Maybe your AV is too distracting?

http://www.addis-welt.de/smilie/smilie/snowman/kiss.gif http://www.addis-welt.de/smilie/smilie/snowman/kiss.gif http://www.addis-welt.de/smilie/smilie/snowman/kiss.gif

LOL



I doubt it. I think I've had a long day and should go get some supper, a smoke and a drink.

Your snowmen are making me cold!

~lucky

 

[ABSTRUSE]

I have good things to say to Doc, fashonista and Lucky - they smart - you deter!!! Tomorrow When not sliced by knife OR TIPSY IF i COULD WRITE IT there

I shall now spend my evening trying to decipher this....where's the Rosetta stone?

 

[matriarch]

I shall now spend my evening trying to decipher this....where's the Rosetta stone?

I am SOOOOOOOOO glad I wasn't the only one who did not have the slightest idea what Charlus was talking about.

Phew.

 

[ABSTRUSE]

I am SOOOOOOOOO glad I wasn't the only one who did not have the slightest idea what Charlus was talking about.

Phew.

She doesn't either...LOL.

I think the first sentence is:

"I hope I'm lucky enough to find a well dressed physician."

 

[LorriLove]

This is all in guise of sex - of course, or I would not ask here - but humiliation.

Obviously things are humiliating to us all at different times, and while I have done some pretty ridiclous things, I have never felt particularly 'humiliated' in my life.

As the kind of person I am, even if someone wanted me to beg in sex, I would find it all a game, and not really humiliating, and since I am more S than M, it has never crossed my mind to feel that any private scenario was more than a private embarrassment to my sub, who knows I will accept him or her the next day.

I can find much more humiliation in doing things in public scenes and so, in this respect I don't understand what is humiliating about anything ever done in private.

What could possibly be humiliating in a private scene, or is S/m all just the flavour of who you are with? And what is so god damn humilating?

Thank you.

hiya charley... i don't do humiliated often either honey... people who do manage to humiliate me usually walk off with a fat lip or black eye

 

[CharleyH]

just bump so I can finf it

 

[Guest]

If you want me to edit the freebie post, e-mail me.
We've wasted enough time, mate.