Trump's Red Wave

[BotanyBoy]

A general redistributionism does not equate to Marxism.

It's not general redistribution....which in ANY 'progressive' instead of equal terms is easily argued as Marxist.

But that's not it.

You and the (D)'s aren't advocating general redistributionism much less in any sort of equitable manner.


The (D)'s are after social justice......racial, gender, social and economic equity. It's Marxism well beyond the economic and deeply into the culture as well.

Then why is it the only people threatening one are the Trumpers?

Because thy are pragmatic and they know the only way you and the (D)'s get what you want is for you to oppress them with government authority based upon their skin color/genitals/social and economic standing.


That's why you won't answer the question as to how you plan on getting all that racial equity you and the (D)'s are after......you know there is only 1 answer and it's the same one everyone right of Marx can see plastered on the wall but you just can't admit to.

 

[Kirkrapine]

It's not general redistribution....which in ANY 'progressive' instead of equal terms is easily argued as Marxist.

But that's not it.

You and the (D)'s aren't advocating general redistributionism much less in any sort of equitable manner.


The (D)'s are after social justice......racial, gender, social and economic equity. It's Marxism well beyond the economic and deeply into the culture as well.

That's not Marxism, it's not really even socialism, of which there are many non-Marxist variants. To be a Marxist is to subscribe to a particular intellectual tradition with definite doctrines about class conflict being the most important engine of historical change. Democrats don't think that way; they know class conflict is really not all that important, or at any rate it never seems to live up to its potential, and they know the American working class is not reliably liberal.

 

[cowslinger64]

Sweeeeeet.... queballs candidate bites the dust..

Democrat Kyrsten Sinema wins Arizona US Senate seat

https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrat...izona-us-senate-seat-004232833--election.html

 

[BotanyBoy]

That's not Marxism, it's not really even socialism, of which there are many non-Marxist variants.

All modern socialism and sub-sects of socialism stem from Marx who basically defined the term socialism as it has been used for well over a century now.

To be a Marxist is to subscribe to a particular intellectual tradition with definite doctrines about class conflict being the most important engine of historical change.

Yup....and it's the exact same thing with intersectionality and social justice, you've just changed the class labels.

It's POC, women and WMCS(white male cis scum) now.....and "social justice" seeks equity between those classes.

Just like the (D)'s say they want...racial, gender, social and economic equity.

It's radically socialistic, under Marx definition, and none of you will DARE be honest about how you intend to make all this equity happen because you know how fucked up it is.

Democrats don't think that way; they know class conflict is really not all that important, or at any rate it never seems to live up to its potential.

Then why do they support racial, gender, social and economic equity?

And you still won't answer the question, HOW do they intend to achieve all this equity that they want?

 

[Kirkrapine]

And you still won't answer the question, HOW do they intend to achieve all this equity that they want?

How should I know? I'm not on the DNC. You have as much access as I do to Dem candidates' campaign rhetoric.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Here's a real Democratic LUZER:

Mikie Sherill

Turned NJ's 11th BLUE after three decades.

She's a UNITED STATES NAVY HELICOPTER PILOT AND A FEDERAL PROSECUTOR.

What a lowlife, unqualified, shitty candidate.

In 1994, she graduated from the United States Naval Academy in Annapolis with a BS.[1] In 2003, Sherrill received a MS in economic history from the London School of Economics. In 2004, she received a certificate in Arabic language from The American University in Cairo. In 2007, Sherrill earned a JD from Georgetown Law.

Oh, and she's a mom of four kids.

These are the LUZER CRAP candidates HisArpy said Dems put up this year--you know, not like Chris Collins, currently under indictment for abusing his office an insider trading that Rs elected. Not like a shyster con man Russian money laundering fake billionaire from the bluest of blue cities. That's Republican quality.

 

[BotanyBoy]

How should I know? I'm not on the DNC.

Use your brain.

What's the only way to have racial, social, gender and economic EQUITY??

There is only one way to do that comrade...

You have as much access as I do to Dem candidates' campaign rhetoric.

Yes I do that's how I and everyone else with an IQ above room temp and the slightest shred of honesty can see exactly what they are saying when they say they want racial, social, gender and economic equity.

Equity = equal outcome....and there is only one way to get that comrade.

We all know what that one way is because that equity experiment has been tried more than a few times resulting in horrifying disasters every time, even if you can't be honest enough to admit what it is you are supporting.

https://akm-img-a-in.tosshub.com/indiatoday/mi-647_012116114831.jpg?TlMawObdssnqpM.uNL_wPK6UjyZC0L24

 

[Kirkrapine]

Equity = equal outcome....and there is only one way to get that comrade.

Democrats in general do not contemplate nationalization or socialization of the means of production. You might cite an instance here and there, but the party as a whole, no. Not even Bernie Sanders advocates socialism in that sense. The left-progressive wing of the Dems just wants a more redistributive tax system and a more vigorous welfare state -- IOW, Euro-style social democracy, which is not socialism and certainly not Marxism.

 

[coati]

Sweeeeeet.... queballs candidate bites the dust..

Democrat Kyrsten Sinema wins Arizona US Senate seat

With Sinema's victory, the so-called Red Wave is nothing but a festering red tide off the coast of Florida...

 

[BotanyBoy]

Democrats in general do not contemplate nationalization or socialization of the means of production. You might cite an instance here and there, but the party as a whole, no.

They talk about it regularly and they advocate the results of it on their official platform.....


Not just economically but expanding DEEP into the social fabric of the country as well.


How do you think they are going to achieve all that equity they are promising to go after?????

(I know you're not honest enough to say it even though you know I'm right)

The left-progressive wing of the Dems just wants a more redistributive tax system and a more vigorous welfare state -- IOW, Euro-style social democracy

It's already highly redistributive, more so than most of Europe.

The lower half of the country doesn't pay taxes bro.

We have a hugely vigorous welfare state....the bureaucracy soaking up most of it is standard socialism comrade!!! There are centrist, liberals, and harder RW folks from 50+ years ago who saw ALL THIS SHIT coming.

, which is not socialism and certainly not Marxism.

BTW Europe isn't 1 style and some of them are highly socialistic and it's all come from Marxist theory.

Marx has essentially defined the left since the mid 1800's bruh.....progressive, Fabian, democratic.....all different takes, all roots with Marx.

 

[Kirkrapine]

Not just economically but expanding DEEP into the social fabric of the country as well.

Well, "political correctness" is not really objectionable or dangerous, is it?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Well, "political correctness" is not really objectionable or dangerous, is it?

You must not know the origins of the term....

When it carries the authority and force of violence that come with government forcing it on everyone, it becomes HIGHLY objectionable and dangerous enough to kill well over 100 million people last century and continues to do so today.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Let's see. . . what unqualified lowlife unseated Russian stooge Dana Rohrbacher in CA's 48th:

Harley Rouda:

Rouda received his Bachelor of Science from the University of Kentucky. He also earned a Master of Business Administration from Ohio State University, and a Juris Doctor from Capital University Law School.

Rouda clerked as a means of income while he was a student. He passed the Ohio bar examination, scoring in the top 10% nationwide. Hired by Porter Wright Morris & Arthur, he specialized in business matters with a focus on securities work, business formations, and intellectual property. Rouda contributed to the firm's pro bono efforts for a multitude of nonprofits, including organizations tackling homelessness in Columbus.

Hmm, let's see how he presented himself and what kind of platform he ran:

I’m a businessman, husband, father, and a patriot – not a politician. I love this country, and I’m running for Congress because Washington politicians have failed us for too long.

I’ve spent my career working to grow businesses large and small – helping create and support thousands of jobs. We helped our workers get ahead. Hard work, honesty, fairness and respect. Those values drove us everyday.

My wife Kaira and I have worked hard to raise our four children. We’re involved in our community and Orange County charities that help the homeless; protect victims of domestic violence; support veterans, reduce gun violence, advance educational opportunities, strengthen human rights and protect our environment.

But in Washington, too many politicians only care about themselves and their special interest campaign contributors. That’s why they’ve done nothing to reduce the cost of health care and prescription drugs, fix our crumbling roads and bridges, or make college more affordable.
I’m refusing to take any money from corporate PACs – because I will only answer to you, not drug companies, the gun lobby, or Wall Street bankers.

In Congress, I’ll use common sense to find common ground. We can make health care more affordable. We can invest in schools and career training. And we can protect Social Security and Medicare. It all starts by putting country ahead of party, and people ahead of special interests. I respectfully ask for your vote to change Washington, and make Congress work for America and Orange County.

That was pretty much the standard D line, Harpy.

 

[HisArpy]

The electoral college is completely irrelevant in a midterm election. Any information one wants about demographic and partisan lean and trends can be had at a finer grain by looking district by district, or county by county in the case of a Senate race. In any case, it was the Democrats who faced the uphill battle in the Senate this cycle. Any suggestion otherwise is completely laughable and intellectually disingenuous.

You are freakin clueless.

The Electoral College only votes in Presidential elections. It has squat to do with the Midterms, which are decided purely by popular vote.

Yeah but they were defending seats in states trending RED like TX and MO. The Dens were the ones this go around defending their seats in red or trending red states. Two years frim now you can throw a pity party when repubs are defending in bluer states.

No they won by sticking to healthcare and running superior candidates.

But apparently you dont consider nat'l security experts, ex CIA, decorated Vets, lawyers, educators, and successful entrepreneurs as "good" candidates. You prefer indicted crooks like Duncan Hunter and dead pimps.

Are you 2 THAT fucking stupid that you can't READ what's right in front of your eyes?

I said electoral MAP.

Jayzuz fucking cripes. What a couple of numbnutz.

HisArpy = Swamp creature and one who is owned by the swampiest of creatures who is owned by the Russians.

Same old Derp from Detroit. You need a different schtick, this one ain't working no mo.

 

[von_Bismarck]

Are you 2 THAT fucking stupid that you can't READ what's right in front of your eyes?

I said electoral MAP.

Jayzuz fucking cripes. What a couple of numbnutz.








Same old Derp from Detroit. You need a different schtick, this one ain't working no mo.

If you think emphasizing the word map improves your case any, you're a huge fucking dipshit.

 

[Kirkrapine]

BTW Europe isn't 1 style and some of them are highly socialistic and it's all come from Marxist theory.

Marx has essentially defined the left since the mid 1800's bruh.....progressive, Fabian, democratic.....all different takes, all roots with Marx.

It would all be more or less the same if Marx had never been born. The socialist movement existed before he joined it.

 

[Kirkrapine]

You must not know the origins of the term....

Mao, I think. That no more makes it objectionable than the fact the Nazis invented the Autobahnen makes the Interstate Highway System objectionable.

When it carries the authority and force of violence that come with government forcing it on everyone, it becomes HIGHLY objectionable and dangerous enough to kill well over 100 million people last century and continues to do so today.

No one is ever going to suffer that fate for using the n-word or calling women bitches.

 

[BotanyBoy]

It would all be more or less the same if Marx had never been born. The socialist movement existed before he joined it.

That's an opinion dripping in denial.

Back to the original question.

How do you suppose the (D)'s plan on achieve all that racial and gender equity you want that they are promising to go after?????

 

[Kirkrapine]

How do you and the (D) plan on achieve all that equity you want that they are promising to go after?????

My choice would be Euro-style social democracy -- probably not a complete solution, but a definite step in the right direction, and we know it works. No reason why what works there can't work here, and don't give me any "homogeneous population" bullshit.

 

[BotanyBoy]

My choice would be Euro-style social democracy -- probably not a complete solution, but a definite step in the right direction.

We have democracy, not all that different than the Europeans and POC/women have equal rights in our democracy.

Besides I didn't ask you what kind of government we should have.

I asked you how do you suppose the (D)'s plan on achieve all that racial and gender equity you want that they are promising to go after?????


How are you going to make white (and white enough jew/azn/latino) guys have less and POC/women have more??

There is a SUUUUUPER simple solution you KNOW the left supports

 

[Kirkrapine]

We have democracy, not all that different than the Europeans and POC/women have equal rights in our democracy.

Besides I didn't ask you what kind of government we should have.

I asked you how do you suppose the (D)'s plan on achieve all that racial and gender equity you want that they are promising to go after?????


How are you going to make white (and white enough jew/azn/latino) guys have less and POC/women have more??

There is a SUUUUUPER simple solution you KNOW the left supports

Do you mean redistributive taxation? Affirmative Action? I know you can't mean nationalization of the means of production.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Do you mean redistributive taxation? Affirmative Action?

More a combo of the two.


What's the only way to make white people less rich and get black people that equity (D)'s are after?


Super simple lefty approach.....the only one you've got.

I know you can't mean nationalization of the means of production.

Should they get to the first part that I'm asking you about, that comes later....gotta pay for it all somehow.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

A reminder of HisArpy's claims about why Dems won:

What the D's did was overwhelm some R districts by sheer numbers, not by any
message or positive campaign or good candidates.

Here's another for you:

Elissa Slotkin, turned MI 8th:

Elissa Slotkin (born July 10, 1976) is a former CIA analyst and the United States Representative-elect for Michigan's 8th Congressional District.[1] She was Acting Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs in the Obama Administration; the principal advisor to the Undersecretary of Defense and Secretary of Defense on security strategy and policy issues related to the nations and international organizations of Europe (including the North Atlantic Treaty Organization), Russia, the Middle East, Africa, and the Western Hemisphere; and also had oversight for security cooperation programs, including foreign military sales in these regions. From September 2012 to January 2015, Slotkin served as Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs.[2] From July 2013 to August 2014, she performed the duties of Principal Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Policy.

Not a "good" candidate.

 

[Kirkrapine]

The D's won because they threw bodies and money at the wall. Just like every other hoard of barbarians in history that overran the defensive line.

In this case the Pubs -- especially the Trumpers -- are the barbarians. Don't try to lie and tell me they're civilized, the whole world knows they're not.

 

[BotanyBoy]

In this case the Pubs -- especially the Trumpers -- are the barbarians. Don't try to lie and tell me they're civilized, the whole world knows they're not.

They aren't the ones advocating government forced equity along racial and gender lines.....

That's you bigot savages on the left.