Turned on by Disgust

[usable001]

While researching things to write about on a porn site, I came across a JOI video where the lady strongly encouraged the viewer to suck off another man, but then said, "I can't believe you actually did that," and was disgusted and insulting afterward. It is the first time I have ever seen a JOI video with a plot twist.

The idea that one of my real-life pansexual worst sexual fears might be a turn-on for someone else is an interesting idea, which I can't yet imagine. Is anyone here into that particular flavor of porn (or think you might be if you saw it)? Can you tell me more about what turns you on by that?

For me right now, improving my writing is about improving getting inside fictional people's heads as realistically as possible.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

Porn with a plot twist...

That said, there's definitely a strong connection between sexual thrill and humiliation for some people.
The thrill for a cuckold watching his wife with another man isn't voyeurism, it's the humiliation.
Likely much the same in some other kinks.

 

[Bazzle]

But...that could be her "act"?

Dare someone to do something, egg them on, and afterwards say, 'urgh you actually did that disgusting thing...how foolish of you, you pathetic little man?'

 

[usable001]

But...that could be her "act"?

Of course it was. At this moment, I'm more interested in what's going through the heads of the people watching her act than in her desire to create something original for people to watch.

 

[TheExperimentalist]

I've encountered many people who enjoy the humiliation/degredation aspect. I understand sort of playful mocking, like "oh, you're being soooo naughty... shame on you, wink wink," but I don't really fully get the appeal of actually feeling whatever is the sexual equivalent of being laughed AT rather than laughed WITH.

I certainly respect it, it just doesn't do it for me, and I don't entirely get how that kind of emotional pain can be pleasurable. Physical pain, sure, though I'm sure there's some humiliation kinksters who would say the same in reverse. Basically, I get it enough to be able to extrapolate, but it internally kinda still confuses me.

As always, only respect and no judgement for anyone to whom it does appeal.

 

[Bazzle]

Of course it was. At this moment, I'm more interested in what's going through the heads of the people watching her act than in her desire to create something original for people to watch.

Look into the whole Fem(/fin)Domme thing on x and reddit. Hundreds of girls getting money from men telling them they are worthless and pathetic. The guys lap it up.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

Look into the whole Fem(/fin)Domme thing on x and reddit. Hundreds of girls getting money from men telling them they are worthless and pathetic. The guys lap it up.

They pay all that money when there are plenty of women who would abuse them for free...

 

[usable001]

The guys lap it up.

I agree that an audience exists. Is any of that audience here and willing to talk about it, either in this thread or DMs?

 

[ColtonWrites]

I can't speak to the disgust but...
Well. My wife can do this trick where she can make me orgasm on command.
And she did it to me in front of a group of her friends.

And they laughed at me.

That was not an angle I had previously considered my kinks to lie in, but it worked.

 

[usable001]

They pay all that money when there are plenty of women who would abuse them for free...

Not in my experience. There's a safety issue involved.

Edit: The origin of the question, "Would you rather be alone in the woods with a male stranger or a hungry bear?"

 

[RetroFan]

Look into the whole Fem(/fin)Domme thing on x and reddit. Hundreds of girls getting money from men telling them they are worthless and pathetic. The guys lap it up.

I've seen that myself and am very curious about the whole thing. Obviously the whole interactive thing - like OF - is relatively new because of technology, but was this a thing back when the internet didn't have sites like this, or even pre-internet?

For example, in 2001 was there some guy in an internet chat-room getting his rocks off chatting with a girl who insulted him this way? In 1997 did some guy go to an adult bookstore, purchase some porno magazines, take them home in a brown paper bag and jerk off over pictorials where the models in their interviews showed an abrasive side and disdain for men? In 1993 did a guy ring a sex line to get off on the woman on the other end belittling and ridiculing him? Or in 1988 did a man go to his local video shop, enter the small alcove where one could not go unless one was 18 or older, and hire a video of an adult film where the girls constantly ridiculed and insulted the guys, who just meekly took it?

 

[Britva415]

For me right now, improving my writing is about improving getting inside fictional people's heads as realistically as possible.

Is this something you want to write about?

 

[Britva415]

was this a thing back when the internet didn't have sites like this, or even pre-internet?

The internet makes it much easier for people to connect, when one of them has a fetish and the other one wants to capitalize on it.

It makes it easier. It didn't create the incentives.

Decades ago, centuries ago, people absolutely had fetishes. Some of them even managed to find someone to satisfy them.

All of your "did this happen" questions are answerable with "if it didn't, it 100% would have if the supply side of it had been available."

 

[forgotmyantidepressants]

I've seen that myself and am very curious about the whole thing. Obviously the whole interactive thing - like OF - is relatively new because of technology, but was this a thing back when the internet didn't have sites like this, or even pre-internet?

For example, in 2001 was there some guy in an internet chat-room getting his rocks off chatting with a girl who insulted him this way? In 1997 did some guy go to an adult bookstore, purchase some porno magazines, take them home in a brown paper bag and jerk off over pictorials where the models in their interviews showed an abrasive side and disdain for men? In 1993 did a guy ring a sex line to get off on the woman on the other end belittling and ridiculing him? Or in 1988 did a man go to his local video shop, enter the small alcove where one could not go unless one was 18 or older, and hire a video of an adult film where the girls constantly ridiculed and insulted the guys, who just meekly took it?

I bet there’s always been people who are willing to pay someone else to degrade them. And those more than willing to do the job.

 

[usable001]

I've seen that myself and am very curious about the whole thing. Obviously the whole interactive thing - like OF - is relatively new because of technology, but was this a thing back when the internet didn't have sites like this, or even pre-internet?

Well, a few seconds playing with Internet searches pulled up Eric Stanton's fetish comics in the 1960s, a porn video from 1910, and the novel She: A History of Adventure published in 1887. So it makes sense that if the fetish existed, people were available to get paid to indulge it.

The 1910 porno seems to be proof that early adopters existed for any technology. Kinky-themed LLM sites exist, after all.

 

[usable001]

This, however, was unexpected:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_universities_with_BDSM_clubs

 

[anthrodisiac]

This, however, was unexpected:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_universities_with_BDSM_clubs

Why is that unexpected? College is a time of experimentation for a lot of people, makes perfect sense to me. I'd've been more surprised if there weren't any.

 

[usable001]

Is this something you want to write about?

The short answer is yes.

The medium-length answer is I'd like to be able to confidently say I can write about anything. It is more a skill issue than the specific topic.

The longest answer is that I enjoy writing about people dealing with uncomfortable situations (even if some of these situations require magic to exist). In a world where everyone is born with a unique quirk (superpower), what would it be like to have a power you actively disliked? What if you were a student and had a power that actively got in the way of learning? What would it be like to be a therapist working with someone who hears voices while living in a world where a list of explanations exists beyond schizophrenia?

The best fuel for writing those tales is lived experience stories, even when the specific lived experience doesn't exist.

Air by Monica Roe, for example, is the story of a kid in a wheelchair who wants to be a stunt rider (the same way able-bodied people do stunts on skateboards or snowboards) who has to deal with people treating her like a glass doll, people pushing her to practice walking when she can't manage twenty feet with the assistance of hand rails (and feels trying is a waste of time as she will never improve to where walking is useful), people "helping" and pushing her around when she doesn't want or need assistance, and people making decisions for her without her input, as if there is something wrong with her mind instead of her legs. Many of these are things I never thought of. In addition to being an author, Monica Roe specifically works with people with disabilities.

By the same token, what is it like to have a fetish like this? Do most of these people typically have low self-worth? Or is that backward, and many feel they have inflated egos? I can make guesses, as can others, but I guarantee we'll miss something if we've never seen it or felt it. It is also unlikely I will find a lived-experience novel on the topic.

 

[usable001]

Why is that unexpected?

It was unexpected that the clubs were officially acknowledged by the university powers that be.

 

[AG31]

This, however, was unexpected:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_universities_with_BDSM_clubs

Wo! Thanks for this link... Just because of curiosity.

 

[Stanfield2025]

They pay all that money when there are plenty of women who would abuse them for free...

The world of femdom is a colorful, interesting one (especially mixed wrestling) but like the other individual said, it's not something every, or even most, women would do. And that's for a variety of reasons.

 

[Kumquatqueen]

Wo! Thanks for this link... Just because of curiosity.

At my universities, you only needed to find a faculty member to be a Senior Treasurer, and have three members (Chair, Treasurer, Secretary), in order to claim £300 a year in funding and an entry in the official Societies Guide.

Young postdoctoral fellows could often be persuaded to complete the requisite paperwork (couple bottles of spirits), though in my day the official description of the societies was always something else more innocuous, even though the actual society activity was 'spending the £300 on mind-altering substances and having a party with lots of shagging.' Some BDSM societies existed but not officially funded by the uni.

 

[RetroFan]

I don't know whether the internet has made more people have weird fetishes, or whether the internet has revealed that there are more people out there with weird fetishes than we thought in previous decades.

Like pet play, which mostly involves women dressing up and acting like dogs although sometimes it is men who like to dress up as and be treated like dogs by women, or men who enjoy watching women treating other men like dogs. I saw an article about women on platforms like OF who specialize in this sort of content, and I was shocked at how many subscribers they have and how much money they make. I thought something like this would be very niche with not huge demand; my mind was completely blown.

 

[Bramblethorn]

I don't know whether the internet has made more people have weird fetishes, or whether the internet has revealed that there are more people out there with weird fetishes than we thought in previous decades.

I think more the latter than the former.