Turning people down after sex

[MsQuote]

Are you being serious suggesting to pay someone for a BJ is a genuine answer to my question?

I wish people would just read my posts and provide answers instead of throwing abuse about.

The top banner on this page suggests "Free Speech, No Spam!". So much for free speech, the sheer level of abuse and judgemental responses beggars belief.

Abuse and judgmental responses?

Either you go out of your way to make this shit up (also see: Sex and new partners for those in the mid 30s and Turning people down after sex) for kicks or you're the biggest embarrassment of a man in history.

 

[IrishFun69]

We are reading your posts and providing answers. The answers are just ones that you don't want to hear.

And you have free speech. No one here has asked that your posts be taken down or that you be silenced. You have the right to say what you want to say. But in return we have the same option. Free speech is simply that, freedom of speech not the freedom from responses.

I appreciate and agree with your response blulilacgrl. Others on a different thread suggested that I go elsewhere. That's what I was referring to. What i don't understand is how paying for a BJ is going to help?

Abuse and judgmental responses?

Either you go out of your way to make this shit up (also see: Sex and new partners for those in the mid 30s and Turning people down after sex) for kicks or you're the biggest embarrassment of a man in history.

More abuse again I see. Such vile comments.

 

[haurni]

What i don't understand is how paying for a BJ is going to help?

That way you won't have to worry about having to deal with the woman the next day.

To be blunt, I think that every thread you've started thus far (as shown by the statements below) basically illustrates that you are only interested in sex - any kind of sex - while disdaining any sort of commitment or meaningful relationship, and you will do whatever you have to in order to get laid. Your insatiable desire isn't the (main) problem, it's how you treat people. Nor do you see anything wrong with this behaviour.

Maybe paying a few bucks for a BJ when you get horny will make a lot of people's lives easier, your own included.

The next morning I woke up and realised she wasn't as good looking as I remembered/without make-up. I sucked it up and had sex again to say good bye.
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frankly, I would have loved to sample her again.

I went back to her place (after some "nice guy" persuasion) and we had sex, twice I think.
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Anyway, I have been flirting with her and playing the "nice guy" routine. Listening to her problems, being really sweet to her, it is working well.... I really want to get her in to bed.
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I will point out the "out of place" things, for example a little belly, just so she won't get too confident and leave when things don't go so smoothly. Then I gently build her up and tell her how much I love the parts she may think are unattractive. That way she is more into me as I am one of the only guys who see her beauty.
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please don't attack me for being HONEST! I could have pretended to be Mr. Nice Guy to to be honest I figured it was better not to hold anything back...

My GF asked that as part of my new years resolution I should cut down on the amount of porn I watch. Typically I may watch about 10 movies a day, to be honest I am streaming one now in the background.

Do people think this is an unreasonable request? In reality, I would cheat on her a lot if I didn't have my release valve!
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But since a) I have a GF and b) the secretary is my employee, I would prefer to have a situation where I can cut all contact after the night. Is there any easy way to do this so it doesn't turn out like the previous girl I had sex with in the office? I pretty much had to leave my previous job because the last office girl I had sex with was really acting the bitch and turning everyone against me.
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Nowadays my missus is working abroad so I don't see her much. I have strayed and now have a new lady friend who has a husband who also works overseas for long periods of time. We keep eachother company sexually and don't really remain in contact apart from that.

What I realise is that my relationship has gone south, I don't see a future with my GF. I will end it soon.

 

[IrishFun69]

Hey guys, just an update, I went out for drinks with the secretary last night and lets just say...lucky number 57

BOOM I still got it, thanks for all of the NICE people who replied

 

[MsQuote]

Hey guys, just an update, I went out for drinks with the secretary last night and lets just say...lucky number 57

BOOM I still got it, thanks for all of the NICE people who replied

So how are you going to let this one go when you get bored with her, find some fault with her, or when your girlfriend comes back to town?

I give it a week from the time you turn from fuck buddy into fucking asshole boss.

I hope you have a lawyer on speed dial.

 

[MatthewVett]

Are you being serious suggesting to pay someone for a BJ is a genuine answer to my question?

I wish people would just read my posts and provide answers instead of throwing abuse about.

The top banner on this page suggests "Free Speech, No Spam!". So much for free speech, the sheer level of abuse and judgemental responses beggars belief.

And yet another person doesn't get Free Speech. Free Speech means that the authorities, in this case, the site's owners, aren't going to shut you up. (Unless you violate the No Spam part, presumably.) Free Speech does NOT mean that everybody else has to shut up when you're talking. It means that we all get to talk. You can say whatever asshole things you want, and we can call you an asshole. That's how it works. If no one is allowed to criticize, speech isn't free.

 

[MatthewVett]

Hey guys, just an update, I went out for drinks with the secretary last night and lets just say...lucky number 57

BOOM I still got it, thanks for all of the NICE people who replied

PS: You're an asshole.

 

[IrishFun69]

So how are you going to let this one go when you get bored with her, find some fault with her, or when your girlfriend comes back to town?

I give it a week from the time you turn from fuck buddy into fucking asshole boss.

I hope you have a lawyer on speed dial.

You Americans. It's all lawyer lawyer lawyer. The sex was consentual. I have nothing to fear.

BOOM.

 

[njlauren]

I would suggest you find yourself a good lawyer (and preferably not some cousin who graduated from bula bula law school) and ask them about employment law. Your idea that you own the company and can hire whom you want is not entirely true, you are subject to local, state and federal non discrimination laws.

As far as having sex with your secretary, droit du seigneur does not apply to business owners, having sex with a subordinate is dicey, and you could be playing with fire. If your secretary gets the wrong idea, and thinks you want a relationship, aren't in it for sex, and you are simply using her for sex, and dump her when GF is around or you get bored, you could be open to a sexual harassment suit, and you would have a hard time defending against it. It is all too easy to say that you told her if she didn't put out she would lose her job, or imply that if she did, rewards would flow, and there is an automatic assumption that because you have power over her, deciding employment, salary etc, that if a question of that comes up, they will lean heavily towards your secretary.More importantly, if she did decide to do that, they would run a background check on you and the woman from your old office would probably be only too glad to dish dirt on you as a player, and that would not paint a pretty picture. There is a reason why a lot of companies frown on employees dating, and many of them have policies that if it is a boss/subordinate pairing, or where one of them has influence over the other's area, that either they shift one employee to another area or they will give them a very hard time about dating, or will depose them and have them sign agreements that they will not sure for sexual harassment, that there was no quid pro quo and so forth.

One question, does you GF know you are horn dogging it? Or do you have an agreement that when away you both can have sex with others? I wouldn't care if you have that kind of agreement with her, so she can share in the benefits , it would be consensual, but if you are horn dogging it while expecting her to be monogamous, then you are a jerk IMO.

As others have said, you are a player, you are basically out for your own sexual pleasure, which quite frankly is okay, as long as the woman you are fucking know that, that you are into one night stands and such and not looking for anything else. What is wrong IMO, where I would criticize you, is if you make them believe you really cared about them, wanted to date them and such, just to get sex, that is scummy. As long as both parties known and are consenting, that is fine. I have to admit that you don't sound like prize material for a serious boyfriend/relationship, someone that can be that wham bam thank you ma'am without concerns for feelings, I cannot believe that with your GF you are suddenly mr considerate/caring/etc, but if it works for you both, it is your relationship, not mine.

As far as criticizing others, if people are into swinging, cuckolding, hot wives, whatever you were complaining about, besides the fact that people get whacked for that on here, too, what you leave out is that is consensual, the cuckold wives usually tell the guy what is going on, that they aren't looking for a relationship, with swingers and hot wives that kind of thing is consensual as well. the people involved know the score, whereas when you show interest in some gal at work, talk her up, strictly to get into her pants, you are using her if you don't make clear you only want to have sex, and that is like cheating, it is non consensual and hurtful. I am sure you make yourself feel better that the woman from your prior office you treated like that got to have a great night of sex with a sex god like you, but in reality what you did was act like a pig.

 

[njlauren]

You Americans. It's all lawyer lawyer lawyer. The sex was consentual. I have nothing to fear.

BOOM.

Like I said, I would talk to a lawyer about that, and ask his/her opinion. There is a little thing in the law that duress doesn't need to be overt to be considered, the law could find that there was an implied quid pro quo with the sex, that the secretary, even if you never said anything, felt that her job relied on having sex with you, and you could be sued having had sex with her. Sexual harassment isn't the same thing as rape, it doesn't need to be overt to be valid, and in a jury trial jurors are often sympathetic to the plaintiff. Someone like yourself, with the reputation of being a player, would have a hard time if the secretary became upset when she found out you were playing her....I assume you showed interest in her, did the usual let's go out on a date, and never mentioned you had a GF.....from what I know of UK law from working for a multinational firm, they have strict laws in the uK about that as well, if that is where you are from, and even though it is dominated by the mother of all misogynists, the Catholic Church, Ireland I believe has similar laws (if that is where you are from).

You asked for opinions, people gave them.

 

[Emerson40]

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You Americans. It's all lawyer lawyer lawyer. The sex was consentual. I have nothing to fear.

BOOM.

 

[IrishFun69]

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Real mature buddy.

 

[Edensgarden]

Hey guys, just an update, I went out for drinks with the secretary last night and lets just say...lucky number 57

BOOM I still got it, thanks for all of the NICE people who replied

I wouldn't let that one go to your head so quickly. Just because she fucked you doesn't necessarily mean you've still got it.

Maybe she fucked you because she thinks it will make her job a little easier. Maybe she's the player. Women have been known to use their assets at work to get ahead.

 

[blulilacgrl]

Hey guys, just an update, I went out for drinks with the secretary last night and lets just say...lucky number 57

BOOM I still got it, thanks for all of the NICE people who replied

Wait? She's number 57? Okay now I freely admit that I suck at math, but let me try my hand at this. Let's assume you were a late bloomer and lost your virginity at at 20. You have stated in another thread that you are in your mid 30s... so let's pick 34.

So let's see... 14 years.... this would make your 57th victim.... lets see...doing the calculations.... there are 12 months in a year so 12 x 14 = 168. so in 168 months you have duped 57 women... so that is 168/57 = 2.94.... Wow! I am impressed a victim every 3 months... so 4 a year! You sir are a PLAY-UH! A veritable Casanova.

Then again it probably takes you a while put the "wanted" ad in the newspaper, hire your future victim and then convince her you're not the complete loathsome toad you've shown us.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Hey guys, just an update, I went out for drinks with the secretary last night and lets just say...lucky number 57

BOOM I still got it, thanks for all of the NICE people who replied

Mmm. You must be real happy and secure in your life if your reaction to getting laid is to go brag about it to a bunch of strangers on the internet for validation.

Me, I'd still be in bed snuggling. Or maybe watching a movie with her - I hear "Alfie" is good.

 

[Eilan]

Dude, it's teh Internets. Everyone here has 50+ partners.

In all seriousness, I think this forum would be a great fit for the OP. It's a PUA "nice guy" sausagefest.

 

[Eilan]

Is "'nice guy' persuasion" some sort of euphemism for rape?

 

[MsQuote]

So that's at least 56 people who know you're a douchebag, the 57th just hasn't clued on yet.

BOOM!

She will be. If not tomorrow, at least by the end of the week.

 

[Bramblethorn]

So that's at least 56 people who know you're a douchebag, the 57th just hasn't clued on yet.

BOOM!

Make that "55 people" and "56th and 57th", from what he was saying earlier.

 

[MsQuote]

Armchair psychologist: sociopath

Is "'nice guy' persuasion" some sort of euphemism for rape?

It's not rape per se, but it's pretty damn close to it. He does, however, exhibit many of the traits of a sociopath.

He's adept at reading people. He can spot their vulnerabilities and assuage them by making them feel good about him and themselves, therefore eliciting a sense of acceptance, affection and trust. He probably says anything, even lies, to get what he wants. He probably has an uncanny ability to make a woman feel so good that she will surrender herself to him in a sense of suspended disbelief.

The object of this game is to get what he wants (sex). Once he gets it, the conquest and the game are over. He's made his accomplishment. There's no thrill in doing it again once it's been done. His thrill isn't based on emotion; it's based on conquest.

I have led a pretty adventerous sex life, at the mo I have had 56 sexual partners in total since I was 15. About 6 LTRs (over 6 months), a few one monthers, a lot of one nighters and unfortunately a few ladies of the night during dry spells. I also went on holiday to some tourist resorts and to be frank I cleaned up with the British birds

For as much as he plays on emotion, he's probably incapable of feeling any of his own ... especially when it comes to remorse, guilt or empathy. He may or may not know what he's doing is wrong, and he certainly doesn't care. When he's publicly outed and/or humiliated for doing something wrong and hurtful, he plays up a serious case of butt hurt.

I pretty much had to leave my previous job because the last office girl I had sex with was really acting the bitch and turning everyone against me.

I find it hard to believe the sheer level of abuse I receive here considering that other users post on topics such as allowing others to have sex with their wives while watching etc. To me that is vile. What I describe is pretty much what so many men out there think but are too afraid to say/act on.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone is what I saw.

... I would appreciate a little less abuse however and a little more understanding.

Will you please read the original post? I am asking for other people's experiences, not mere abuse because you are jealous/don't agree with me.

Are you being serious suggesting to pay someone for a BJ is a genuine answer to my question?

I wish people would just read my posts and provide answers instead of throwing abuse about.

The top banner on this page suggests "Free Speech, No Spam!". So much for free speech, the sheer level of abuse and judgemental responses beggars belief.

More abuse again I see. Such vile comments.

Why does he do this? From what I can see he has deep-seated inadequacies.

Since I hot 31/32 I noticed girls were not that easy to get for me anymore, hence the ladies of the night! It seems that my attraction has wore off.

He's also narcissistic and self-involved.

I also claimed social welfare for a while while I worked on my body-beefcake!!

While it would be legally hard or impossible to prove rape, he's established "consentual" situations through outright fraud and deceit. Through the quotes I've found, he's clearly unapologetic for his behavior and will likely seek out victums No. 58, 59 ... 158, 159 ...

 

[LordMhoram]

Irish, here's where you've come unstuck here.

First, you've assumed, incorrectly, that a lot of people here would support your, er, habits, slap you on the back, and offer ideas on how to improve your game even further.

What you don't understand is that the vast majority of people here are actually pretty nice folk. The thing is, no matter our particular twist or preference or kink, the things most of us do are consensual, which means an agreement made with knowledge and understanding, if not actually full disclosure (that might be part of the titillation).

Most importantly, no one is being hurt - or if they are (nod to the SM folk), they understand and agree to the behavior.

What you are doing is deceptive, and it sure sounds like the ladies involved are being hurt. Okay, I will refrain from comment about that other than pointing out that there is where what you are seeking advice about fundamentally differs from the activities of most of the folk here.


What kind of response do you think I would get here if I told everyone that I'd raped a woman, and please could someone help me with ideas to better cover my tracks, because I nearly got caught and there is another woman I have my eye on. Oh, and should I go for it again?

I think you get my point. That is far more extreme than what you are doing, so I assume you would agree it is wrong. Wouldn't you flame me pretty hard for making such a post?

You have seriously misread the bulk of the people here; they don't like what you are doing, and have told you so.

You are an asshole. There, I said it! You know it.

You don't really want advice. No, I think you've posted here to stroke your ego, and got pissy when folk didn't play. You don't get it - probably never will.

But hey, it's all good. Freedom of speech right? It was consensual, so what's the big deal, right? You got your jollies, so what's the problem?

Seriously though dude, ego-stroking isn't a very good spectator sport.

And this has been another, briefly entertaining thread to no purpose.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Does OP even know that he's an asshole? He seems to be competing for "Least Self Aware Status".

 

[C2W]

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Hey brutha man, I feel for you even if no one else here does, (i didn't bother to read beyond the opening of your thread.)
But here's what you do, go to the nearest tattoo shop and have this put on your forehead:
Attn: single girls I'm a jackass

You'll never have that problem with any girl every again, the exception being perhaps your girlfriend.

 

[Rother]

I find it hard to believe that the OP is real. Having read his other threads, it all seems rather trolly. Or maybe I just don't believe that someone could be that much of an arse.

 

[MsQuote]

I find it hard to believe that the OP is real. Having read his other threads, it all seems rather trolly. Or maybe I just don't believe that someone could be that much of an arse.

Even if he's trolling, he's still an arse.