Two questions about erections/meds and ejaculation/orgasm?

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Do men who are on antidepressants and/or anti-anxiety meds report any effect on ejaculation or orgasm?

Also...this is WAY dumb I'm sure....there's a DIFFERENCE between ejaculation and orgasm for guys? In other words, can one experience the feeling of orgasm without ejaculating?

Perhaps these are two questions, but they may or may not be related.

Enlighten me fellas. Thanks!
 
Not sure about the answer to the first question.

As for the second, they are usually closely intertwined, but are not the same. Certain medical conditions (not sure which don't have that experience, but recall reading it. Grain of salt on that of course.) and certain training can result in orgasm without ejaculation. Tried it with an ex and after a while I could orgasm without ejaculating sometimes, with a lot of concentration and some physical manipulation (pressure at the base of the penis). After I stopped trying (break up) I lost the skill. Probably have to start from scratch to do it again.

Can't say i've ever ejaculated without orgasming, but some have been less spectacular than others.
 
bourbonslut said:
Do men who are on antidepressants and/or anti-anxiety meds report any effect on ejaculation or orgasm?
Yes, that class of drugs is notorious for negative effects on libido, arousal, and ejaculation/orgasm for both men and women. Blood pressure and other meds can also cause various sexual problems.

Also...this is WAY dumb I'm sure....there's a DIFFERENCE between ejaculation and orgasm for guys? In other words, can one experience the feeling of orgasm without ejaculating?
Yes, there's a difference. Orgasm is the pleasureable sexual response that's accompanied by physical reaction(s) like spasms/contractions, release of endorphins and other chemicals, flushing, ejaculation. Ejaculation is the release of fluid (semen if we're talking about men).

Men can have orgasms without ejaculating, but that usually requires a lot of practice, control, and very strong PC muscles (if they squeeze the PC muscle at a certain point, they can orgasm w/o ejaculating, and technically can have multiple orgasms like we can).

Good info on:
Orgasms
Ejaculation
 
...so men can feel pleasurable, excited, sexual release without actually, well, shooting the proverbial bullets, then?
 
Yes, they can. And I recalled another instance it can occur, though don't know if this counts. Dry firing gives you orgasm with no ejaculation, usually after several ejaculations in a fairly small amount of time (dehydration helps).
 
SweetErika said:
Yes, that class of drugs is notorious for negative effects on libido, arousal, and ejaculation/orgasm for both men and women. Blood pressure and other meds can also cause various sexual problems.

Yes, there's a difference. Orgasm is the pleasureable sexual response that's accompanied by physical reaction(s) like spasms/contractions, release of endorphins and other chemicals, flushing, ejaculation. Ejaculation is the release of fluid (semen if we're talking about men).

Men can have orgasms without ejaculating, but that usually requires a lot of practice, control, and very strong PC muscles (if they squeeze the PC muscle at a certain point, they can orgasm w/o ejaculating, and technically can have multiple orgasms like we can).

Good info on:
Orgasms
Ejaculation

Sweet Erika is right, I have had orgasms without ejacualation. The last time I did it, I was in a three day sex session in Thailand. I eventually went totally dry. But I still had orgasms. It is a strange thing for a guy to feel the same sensation, yet not produce anything.
 
I know if I pause at just the right time as I start to cum, I get the good feelings but don't shoot. If I wait a minute I stay hard and can go for a few minutes again, although I dont' last long after doing that. And the feelings aren't as good as if I just kept going a lot of the time. Sometimes it feels better though, being kept right at the edge for a while can be incredible.
 
It always feels better to me if I shoot. And the best ones are when I shoot a lot (wish that happened more often).
 
A_Kefka said:
I know if I pause at just the right time as I start to cum, I get the good feelings but don't shoot. If I wait a minute I stay hard and can go for a few minutes again, although I dont' last long after doing that. And the feelings aren't as good as if I just kept going a lot of the time. Sometimes it feels better though, being kept right at the edge for a while can be incredible.

I was just telling my wife that last night during afterglow. I had her back off during a delicious BJ...hmmm, I don't know how I was able to stop the action that was taking me to PONR (point of no return), but I did and gestured and a word or two to hold it there..... to let it last when she brought me to the edge. Man that makes me squirm and it makes it much better. :D

-JB
 
covariant said:
It always feels better to me if I shoot. And the best ones are when I shoot a lot (wish that happened more often).

Be careful, but you can increase your payload with herbal supplements. And of course, drinking lots of water. Click me for some info I've shared.

-JB
 
bourbonslut said:
Do men who are on antidepressants and/or anti-anxiety meds report any effect on ejaculation or orgasm?

Yes they can. Speaking from personal experience. I was on Lexapro for about 6 months and was having a hard time ejaculating. Then I read the side-effects, and THERE IT WAS.... "delayed-ejaculation". My wife is on it too and she thinks it hurts her libido.

I checked around and someone suggested talking to my doctor about Wellbutrin. He switched me, and the problem went away.

bourbonslut said:
Also...this is WAY dumb I'm sure....there's a DIFFERENCE between ejaculation and orgasm for guys? In other words, can one experience the feeling of orgasm without ejaculating?

Perhaps these are two questions, but they may or may not be related.

Enlighten me fellas. Thanks!

Truth is, we really don't know ourselves :eek: :) But when I was taking Lexapro, I could swear I did feel something like orgasm without ejaculating a couple of times, but it wasn't nearly as satisfying.

Now if only I understood what happened here in particular where I described "As I focused on slowing my breathing (shit, I need some sleep) and I started getting waves of energy flowing through my spine. They seemed to be emanating from my heart, and flowing out of the top of my head. It went on for a couple of hours and I was enjoying emmensly the feelings and the spine tingling with heart-energy."

Still looking for answers on this one... :)

-JB
 
bourbonslut said:
Do men who are on antidepressants and/or anti-anxiety meds report any effect on ejaculation or orgasm?
I had a partner (short-term) who was on some type of anti-depressant. He had no trouble getting an erection, but achieving orgasm was very difficult for him.

He didn't tell me about this until I was raw.
 
Eilan said:
I had a partner (short-term) who was on some type of anti-depressant. He had no trouble getting an erection, but achieving orgasm was very difficult for him.
Same here, I mentioned already other places I take supplements to keep the plumbing primed so to speak. And stimulation is enough to keep me erect, I'm visual and my wife is very hot and drop dead gorgeous, we would literally go 1-2hrs on a regular basis. Especially long if make up sex from a dry spell :D
Eilan said:
He didn't tell me about this until I was raw.
Ouch! Somehow, though my wife always had a wry grin on her face, and happy attitude, as she walked a little funny the next day. But NO, I don't want sex to be painful, ok unless it's my erection so engorged it actually hurts.

Also, so sad, it hurt her self confidence after a while. But we're still together and getting better and better.

-JB
 
I took anti depressants many years ago but I don't remember any sex side effects just that I was nervous as hell. Shook all the time and felt cold. The other part of the question about ejeculation vs climax i'll try to describe this way. I can have just a "quicky" and cum with the usual fanfare and it feels really great and then the downer and the recycle time (which gets longer the older I get) or I can, at the time of ejeculation somehow stave it off. When I do this I get a good feeling but not as jood as a full cum shot and maybe i'll produce just a couple of drips of semen. But the comes the real reason I stave it off. I am like the energizer bunny...I can fuck for extended sessions and I may not be able to cum for a while if at all that night but the dick just hangs in there for it seems like hours! Some folks seem to like it.
 
you all have been very helpful (and the PMs too, and I will answer soon!)

I have encountered a situation or two (one, a boyfriend on meds who could be erect but not ejaculate, who said sex was 'pleasurable' and another who claimed that he actually did reach wonderful orgams although over the course of many sexual encounters, did ejaculate once, which he said was not ordinary.)

I was afraid they were not enjoying the experience and were just trying to make me feel better, even though my most recent flame said this was not the case, he enjoyed it greatly, and actually liked the fact he could 'come without coming' and effectively prolong the experience for us both, in a way. that was my concern. the sex itself was fantastic, for me and, according to him, it was for him too.

should i suggest he change meds?
 
I was relieved to find this thread as I just today had a "come without cuming" and thought that something might be phisacly wrong, as this has never happened during sex before. When I masturbate I never cum because I always pinch the urethra and just orgasm therefor no mess to clean up :cool: .

btw 10 min later I was hard again and damn near filled a second condom with cum.
 
The only problem that I have is some lovers seem to think that no ejeculation equals no good time which just ain't the case for me. I really think that being able to extend the time window is really great but sometimes when I use the "stave off" method I may never cum during that episode and just physically just have the old knees or back give out and have to give up. Then I get ask the question "Did you not enjoy me enuf to cum?" and I'm not about to play that old fake an orgasm game. If it ain't happening it just ain't! It's all about the pussy. I don't have to cum to have a good time!
 
DeepQuest said:
The only problem that I have is some lovers seem to think that no ejeculation equals no good time which just ain't the case for me. I really think that being able to extend the time window is really great but sometimes when I use the "stave off" method I may never cum during that episode and just physically just have the old knees or back give out and have to give up. Then I get ask the question "Did you not enjoy me enuf to cum?" and I'm not about to play that old fake an orgasm game. If it ain't happening it just ain't! It's all about the pussy. I don't have to cum to have a good time!

oh i don't want anyone to fake! i just want to make sure that we're all enjoying ourselves, that's all. i guess i do want to be reassured a bit. sigh.
 
Hi bourbonslut! (i've always wanted to type those words to somebody i don't know!!)

I've just sent you a PM.
 
DeepQuest said:
The only problem that I have is some lovers seem to think that no ejeculation equals no good time which just ain't the case for me. I really think that being able to extend the time window is really great but sometimes when I use the "stave off" method I may never cum during that episode and just physically just have the old knees or back give out and have to give up. Then I get ask the question "Did you not enjoy me enuf to cum?" and I'm not about to play that old fake an orgasm game. If it ain't happening it just ain't! It's all about the pussy. I don't have to cum to have a good time!

I can relate to this. But I neglected myself too many times and started realizing I'm young (44) why the hell should I be hard for 2 hours and not ejaculate (or orgasm???). It really got to me over time. Let's just say I became a bit more aggressive than usual. Wife told me I was getting a little "scary". When I nearly climbed through the drive up window after getting some (ok I deserved it) attitude from "hamburger boy" in front of my 17 yr old daughter, I knew it was time to do something about it.

-JB
 
Yep Jethro I know what your saying but I don't feel neglected at all..I enjoy all aspects of sex and there is very little that I won't do to please the right woman. I figure if I can eat my own cum out of her pussy there ain't a lot I won't do to go the extra yard to please her. Just being able to stay hard for as long as I can with no little pills I figure is good and like I said it even feels good when I stave it off. I get a little mini orgasm.. Just not the big rocket..just a few fireworks. And sometimes in the morning there is the quickie where I just get her off quick and pop in her real quick shower and go to work.
 
I'll add my $.02 to this.
I was on both Celexa and Lexapro and they did the same thing, good erection, no orgasm and no ejaculation. It didn't feel bad but I just never came. I don't know if one could titrate the dose to just delay somewhat.

Now I'm on Wellbutrin and it has no sexual side effects, good or bad, for me.

I also am on Strattera for Adult ADD, and it had some strange side effects. I would "leak" what I assumed to be prostate fluid or "pre-cum" when I became even slightly aroused, like when I'd see a HOT woman, and sometimes immediately after urination, but NOT when I was erect and should have been getting wet! This wasn't really bad except for the wet spots, but it certainly was strange for me since I barely produce 2-3 drops of pre-cum ever, before this.

Also when I came my ejaculation was strangely different too, it was more of a slow ooze than squirts, it would continue for a longer time and I'd immediatly feel like I'd be able to cum again, but I couldn't.
:confused:
I talked to the doc. about this and he lowered the dose and suggested I try a half of the dose twice per day. That mostly eliminated those side effects, but I thought I'd try the single dose/day again to see if I could make good use of my new found pre-cum but it isn't happening this time so I just don't know.
 
anti-depressant medication is just the worst for men.

i recently left a long-term partner with manic depression, who was on heaps of meds....

and in the end, he had trouble with erection and orgasm..... after 7 years on full-strength anti-depressents, mood stabilisers and anti-anxiety meds.
 
bourbonslut said:
you all have been very helpful (and the PMs too, and I will answer soon!)

I have encountered a situation or two (one, a boyfriend on meds who could be erect but not ejaculate, who said sex was 'pleasurable' and another who claimed that he actually did reach wonderful orgams although over the course of many sexual encounters, did ejaculate once, which he said was not ordinary.)

I was afraid they were not enjoying the experience and were just trying to make me feel better, even though my most recent flame said this was not the case, he enjoyed it greatly, and actually liked the fact he could 'come without coming' and effectively prolong the experience for us both, in a way. that was my concern. the sex itself was fantastic, for me and, according to him, it was for him too.

should i suggest he change meds?

Well, I'd say you should let him know there are other options, though if he says the sex is fantastic for him maybe you shouldn't worry about it?
On the meds, it is specifically the SSRIs (zoloft, prozac, celexa, lexapro, there are others) that cause the sexual side effects. There are plenty of other antidepressant drugs available (Wellbutrin being one already mentioned) that work by different mechanisms and don't have the sexual side effect. I have suffered depression in the past, and used different meds. I can't think of anything worse than being depressed and then having your medication screw up your sex life.
 
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