Uk says fuck free speech

[oggbashan]

So there is nothing written down anywhere that says how your government works?

There is but it is not a single document. It is a whole series of Acts of Parliament and pre-existing common law, amended by new Acts of Parliament and case law.

The UK Supreme Court cannot make new laws. Only Parliament can do that. What the Supreme Court can do is interpret the law, including the Constitution. Recently the Supreme Court ruled that the UK Government could not sign the document committing the UK to Brexit without a vote in Parliament.

Ancient traditions and practices, and old laws, remain valid until they are repealed by Parliament as part of a process of making new law by Act of Parliament.

For an extreme example, the assembled Fyrd (think citizen militia) of Kent in 1066 after the Battle of Hastings barred William the Conqueror from advancing on London - unless he agreed to accept their ancient laws and customs. He accepted. That caused later problems for him and his successors in ruling Kent. If the assembled Lords of Kent said 'This is the way we do it in Kent' the King had to accept that ruling.

In practice the real difference was in the Kentish laws of inheritance, something called Gavelkind:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavelkind

That wasn't abolished until 1925. Until then it was part of the Constitution of England, but mainly applying only in Kent.

Part of the objections to the EU in the Brexit vote is that the EU could in practice amend the UK's constitution without any democratic process.

 

[Lansdown12]

They don't get the concept of rights in general....because they have none.

We have well defined rights under the European convention on Human Rights which the UK helped draw up but are now in the process of throwing away as part of Brexit.

Summary of our rights here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Convention_on_Human_Rights

Covers pretty much all you would expect and keeps lawyers in well paid work arguing the interpretation of the articles

 

[oggbashan]

We have well defined rights under the European convention on Human Rights which the UK helped draw up but are now in the process of throwing away as part of Brexit.

Summary of our rights here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Convention_on_Human_Rights

Covers pretty much all you would expect and keeps lawyers in well paid work arguing the interpretation of the articles

We have far more than those built up over centuries. The European Convention on Human Rights built on the UN declarations which the UK helped to write. The influence of Magna Carta is often overstated. At the time it was mainly a restatement of rights which had existed before. King John had been trying to erode rights that existed long before him. The so-called Glorious Revolution of 1688 codified the rights and is still a major part of the English constitution.

What some people don't realise is that the UK constitution varies according to where you live. England and Wales are largely similar except for the Welsh Assembly. Scotland and Scots Law has different aspects of the constitution. So does Northern Ireland. The Isle of Man and the Channel Islands? They are different again. Even the City of London has unique rights and rules.

 

[Blue]

What we should really do, to get rid of the ancient bureaucracy, is just get rid of Scotland, Wales, England, Northern Ireland, all the territories and dependencies that want to be involved in this, and just integrate them all into one country and call it Britannia or something.

England, Wales and Scotland are culturally/socially and economically basically one country anyway due to the hundreds of years of codependence and assimilation. Sure there's a metric ton of regional political differences but nothing that couldn't be ironed out in a few meetings.

Am I wrong somehow? It really seems to me like the biggest things dividing the three major states are just the lines on a map. Get rid of them, form one country. The residents of ex-Scotland and Wales will finally have actual institutionalized power in the government instead of the English parliament having legislative dominance over the devolved countries, and we can get a new flag that finally represents Wales as well. The Welsh flag has a dragon on it, why was that never added in the first place??

 

[Hypoxia]

The hero of Heinlein's THE DOOR INTO SUMMER, drugged into cold sleep in 1960, is revived in 2000 to find the UK had been annexed by the US. That couldn't happen now, of course. Too much curry under the bridge.

 

[BotanyBoy]

We have well defined rights under the European convention on Human Rights which the UK helped draw up but are now in the process of throwing away as part of Brexit.

Summary of our rights here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Convention_on_Human_Rights

Covers pretty much all you would expect and keeps lawyers in well paid work arguing the interpretation of the articles

Reads more like some privileges that governments may or may not shit upon.

 

[todski28]

Reads more like some privileges that governments may or may not shit upon.

Thats about the sum of most hate speech laws across all western cultures currently reduce rights down to priveledges and as we see with the colmedian on this video his context and intent are up to the interpretation of others feelings...... its part of the reason we have to have free speech, to see if feelings are grounded in fact or if theyre unwarranted stupidities.... keep going and our sciences will regress to astrology and voodoo