Vista bad!

[islandman]

I see more a sign of the times being the cell phones being introduced which run off open source software and having no limitation what software you are allowed to run on them and inovation (hardware & software) is not limited to what the big companies want to give the public.


http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2006/03/10/1447852.htm

http://www.opencellphone.org/index.php?title=Main_Page

Problem is, the handset makers don't control access, so if VZN doesn't want open-source mobiles to access its network, it won't happen. This is much less the case anywhere where GSM is the standard.

Also, I spent the last week reviewing Motorola's and Nokia's new handset, both those for the western world and emerging market models, and they're both still very much proprietary, right down to the built-in music players. My visibility is limited to '07 and '08 production plans, however.

 

[Nipples___Mcgee]

You fucking dipshits are fucking sickening

 

[linuxgeek]

But, that is the way things are progressing. Beleive it or not, those that know how to deal with spyware and the internal working of an OS are still in a small minority. Some 30% of the woprlds population is able to use a PC. Less than 10% are "advanced users". The people making the PCs and OSs couldn't care less about the power users. Their vision is to remove any excuses from the remaining 70% of the worlds population that aren't already their customers.

Kinda like with cars. Most people only know how to fuel them and turn the key.

 

[OscarTheGrouch]

Kinda like with cars. Most people only know how to fuel them and turn the key.

Thanks to Toyota and the new Camry, you can push a little button and it starts..

 

[linuxgeek]

Not at walmart- go to comp usa, or your local apple retailer

They make Office for the mac. *I* wont pay for it, but thats me. It is a nice product though...

If you have a Mac, join macrumors, and get bootcamp

OpenOffice has an installer for Mac: http://download.openoffice.org/2.1.0/instructions.html

 

[ma_guy]

Kinda like with cars. Most people only know how to fuel them and turn the key.

Pretty much. They sure don't build many cars for the mechanics of the world! lol

 

[linuxgeek]

Thanks to Toyota and the new Camry, you can push a little button and it starts..

yup .. an as soon as they can get the guides embeded in the high traffic roads, the cars will start driving themselves.

 

[OscarTheGrouch]

Pretty much. They sure don't build many cars for the mechanics of the world! lol

If they did, they would not cram the engines into compartments like they do. Thats why I quit working on cars... No room.

I could SIT in the engine compartment of my 68 charger. In my Intrepid, there isnt room for a hand..

 

[MechaBlade]

yup .. an as soon as they can get the guides embeded in the high traffic roads, the cars will start driving themselves.

The idea of this gives me a fat hard one. I hope to live long enough to see this implemented on major roads.

Go, DARPA Grand Challenge, go!

 

[linuxgeek]

The idea of this gives me a fat hard one. I hope to live long enough to see this implemented on major roads.

Go, DARPA Grand Challenge, go!

Will be interesting times. Depending on how they do the computer control systems, could be a very special battle to keep everyone on the road safe. But at least they will still be on the ground. Once we get to flying personal vehicles, things could get really scary.

 

[linuxgeek]

psa bump

 

[Ishmael]

You know why all this DRM crap got it's foot in the door don't you?

Ishmael

 

[linuxgeek]

Not off hand, but my first guess would be the general apathy of the general public.

 

[Wok]

Not off hand, but my first guess would be the general apathy of the general public.

No all them damn liberals.

 

[MechaBlade]

No all them damn liberals.

Clinton?

 

[Wok]

Clinton?

How did you know?

 

[Acanthus]

I thought they released an x86 version of OSX or was it that just started putting x86 chips into Mac formfactor?

There is a x86 MACOS now.

However it only supports the same hardware that macs support, unless you do some driver wizardry and get linux drivers running on MACOS.

Ubuntu is the way to go

 

[linuxgeek]

There is a x86 MACOS now.

However it only supports the same hardware that macs support, unless you do some driver wizardry and get linux drivers running on MACOS.

Ubuntu is the way to go

Thought I saw something where they were stopping development on the Mac Ubuntu.

 

[Acanthus]

Thought I saw something where they were stopping development on the Mac Ubuntu.

Nowadays its quite litereally the same hardware.

Apple is running Intel mobos, Intel CPUs, Intel graphics (or add on upgrades), the only thing i think that is truely different is the partitioning / formatting. Even that might be the same now, i havent looked into linux in a very long time. But ive seen Ubuntu in action and its every bit as functional as windows, even moreso with things like KDE.

 

[Simon_Moon]

Ubuntu is the way to go

Ubuntu is indeed the easiest to use Linux there is. Once you cut your teeth on that, however, a straight-up Debian install is where it's at. After that, I can only assume that a raw-dog Gentoo install is all that will satisfy the true geek.

 

[Wok]

Ubuntu is indeed the easiest to use Linux there is. Once you cut your teeth on that, however, a straight-up Debian install is where it's at. After that, I can only assume that a raw-dog Gentoo install is all that will satisfy the true geek.

Man, I installed Gentoo once, and took three long days to install. Once it was done, it was one nice little distro.

KDE took forever and a day to compile too.

 

[Simon_Moon]

Man, I installed Gentoo once, and took three long days to install. Once it was done, it was one nice little distro.

You actually got it installed and then switched to something else?!!? Insanity!

I've failed a few times to get Gentoo to install. Maybe one of these days...

KDE took forever and a day to compile too.

I'll bet it did.

 

[Wok]

You actually got it installed and then switched to something else?!!? Insanity!

Yeah, that was like 2 years ago.

I went back to Slackware.

 

[linuxgeek]

Man, I installed Gentoo once, and took three long days to install. Once it was done, it was one nice little distro.

KDE took forever and a day to compile too.

I had heard good things about gentoo if a person is looking for a distro super optimised for the machine it is being run on. I just don't see it practical for a production environment. Debian does the job quiet nicely. Still like Suse for desktops in general since the update tool and a good number of the apps are fairly easy for a M$Win person to understand and use. Long term, I'd be partial to debian for destops to with the easy doing version updates and the fact that ya can do it while the person it using the system and don't have to reboot until ya do the kernel.

Saw some stuff on Slashdot that makes me wonder what will become of Gentoo in the long run. I don't see it as a good sign when the current developers for it are so snarky that they run off the guy who started the project when he has a chance to come back to it.

 

[Wok]

I had heard good things about gentoo if a person is looking for a distro super optimised for the machine it is being run on. I just don't see it practical for a production environment. Debian does the job quiet nicely. Still like Suse for desktops in general since the update tool and a good number of the apps are fairly easy for a M$Win person to understand and use. Long term, I'd be partial to debian for destops to with the easy of updating and the fact that ya can do it while the person it using the system.

Saw some stuff on Slashdot that makes me wonder what will become of Gentoo in the long run. I don't see it as a good sign when the current developers for it are so snarky that they run off the guy who started the project when he has a chance to come back to it.

In my own opinion, and this is my own opinion, is Gentoo is too snobbish of a distro for me. I prefer the install and go distros. You install them, and that is that.

I spend enough time developing stuff, and do not want to waste my time compiling the compilers. Now, do not get me wrong, it is a very nice little distro. It is bleeding edge and you know EXACTLY what is is installed and not installed.

So it is a matter of taste.

As for the future of the distro, I do not see it going anywhere anytime soon.