We Don't Need No Fucking Science!

[JackLuis]

Ah, Mr. Know It All, Wet Behind the Ears graduated college in the far distant past of 2012. Figures.

Well aren't you Mr. Gracious.

 

[JerichoEd]

Exactly, you fucking idiot. I haven't been listening to what conservatives have been saying because I went to COLLEGE. I was born in 1988 and I graduated college at the age of 24 in 2012. I know exactly what happens in the classroom, and I know who's teaching students during this era.

The ONLY time I studied under conservatives was when I went to a private middle school for 3 years. And yes, it was exactly as you describe it. They teach bullshit in science. The brainwash the kids. I know, because I was brainwashed. That's where my fear of hell came from.

Buuuut you see, I saw both sides of the spectrum. I live in a conservative state, grew up in church, and then I went to college and came to a realization.

Everything I grew up learning socially was bullshit. All of it. And I learned to take everything with a grain of salt. But then, I realized something far worse...

As I tried to step across the aisle, I was met with people who still accused me of the same shit they accuse the most radical far right of. It's unbelievable, and it's impossible to describe the feeling. I realized that there was bullshit coming from the left as well. It was just as bad as the right. Just as bad.

So, I don't pick sides. And if I criticize one side or the other, I'm labeled the same as a Nazi or a Baby Killer. It suuucks being in the middle.

But that's a good thing. My stances on political issues aren't to make friends or money. My thoughts on social issues are not to be kind or to think of people's feelings. I'm not interested in that. Who I vote for is not to be apart of the collective. My stances, my thoughts, and my votes are mine. I make an assessment of the risks and benefits, and I decide. If that means voting for Trump, then so be it.

And by the way, since we're discussing liberalism and free thought, telling a person not to vote because they disagree with them is the most illiberal thing you could possibly do. It's almost as if you want to censor those votes. It's almost as it you're not liberal at all.

You remind me soooooo much of me when I was about your age. Some of it may still ring true for me as it does for you, but I'm still pretty much a conservative. Only I didn't realize it when I was a poor country boy, until I left home. Thing is you'll find that type on both sides of the spectrum along with shallow thinking that leads to quick judgements based on one or two comments that fail to consider the situation(s) as a whole. I grew up within a bunch of poor LibDems. Poorly educated and lacking in matters abroad. I slowly stopped listening to much of their nonsense as I entered the real world known as the school of life. Never moved back home as a result. I also think both sides of the spectrum are largely unfairly judged and/or unfairly judgemental of each other. Rarely entertaining the thought of meeting in the middle. Many of us think of our little slice of the world as we see and live within it, while failing to see what's good for the whole in general.

We (the U.S.) are not a true Democracy nor true Republic. And, no, I am not attempting to criticize you.

 

[phrodeau]

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Buuuut you see, I saw both sides of the spectrum. I live in a conservative state, grew up in church, and then I went to college and came to a realization.

It isn't a spectrum. It's a gradient between dark and light.

 

[Chris_Michael]

Well aren't you Mr. Gracious.

Yes, thank you. I have on at least two occasions recently detailed how ignorant I am of World History and what America's economy actually is (Brexit thread is one). I have stated that I don't have a firm grasp on these subjects and that I just do my best to be logical in my thought process.

So, to say I act like a Know-It-All? No. I act like a normal person who just tries to think. I have biases. My sources have biases. I realize I'm ignorant on certain topics. I realize I may be being deceived by my sources. But I do my best. That's it.

You remind me soooooo much of me when I was about your age. Some of it may still ring true for me as it does for you, but I'm still pretty much a conservative. Only I didn't realize it when I was a poor country boy, until I left home. Thing is you'll find that type on both sides of the spectrum along with shallow thinking that leads to quick judgements based on one or two comments that fail to consider the situation(s) as a whole. I grew up within a bunch of poor LibDems. Poorly educated and lacking in matters abroad. I slowly stopped listening to much of their nonsense as I entered the real world known as the school of life. Never moved back home as a result. I also think both sides of the spectrum are largely unfairly judged and/or unfairly judgemental of each other. Rarely entertaining the thought of meeting in the middle. Many of us think of our little slice of the world as we see and live within it, while failing to see what's good for the whole in general.

We (the U.S.) are not a true Democracy nor true Republic. And, no, I am not attempting to criticize you.

Haha Thank you. Yeah, it's a learning experience. That moment when I had the realization that I could step outside of what I grew up as was so amazing. It was like a huge weight lifted off my shoulders. Granted, that was more about being a Christian than a Conservative. I don't know if you're religious or not, but when I finally let go of Christianity, it was the best feeling ever.

Haha Some of the story is really cool like not feeling guilt about watching George Carlin. It's kind of funny. When I was a Christian, I wouldn't listen to him because I felt so guilty about it. But now, he's my favorite comedian. RIP

But yeah, thanks man.

It isn't a spectrum. It's a gradient between dark and light.

Well, I don't want to be blinded by the light.