"Weird" is the new SFB talking point.

They will still refer to him as "convicted felon" because they're highly trained at editing truth and facts to arrive at the predetermined slander.
Esquire, help clarify some legal terminology for us, please.

A person is presumed innocent going into a felony trial, right?

Once a trial is concluded and a jury determines innocence or guilt, the presumption of innocence terminology becomes 'not guilty or 'guilty as charged.'

If found guilty and s/he appeals that guilty verdict, is the term felon applicable, or does the presumption of innocence also carry to the next appeal level?

I'm sure you know he had a trial and will soon appear in court for his sentencing. You may hold out that he was egregiously convicted. Though you expect it to be overturned, you know it is, in fact, a matter of record at this point. Trump was determined to be a convicted felon on 34 counts and still a convicted sexual assault declarant in a civil matter as well.

Is the definition of convicted felon the correct legal description and terminology for Trump's status until it is possibly overturned? Please clarify this point without a political statement like, 'But he wasn't given a fair trial.'

Is that an editing of truth and slander, or is it on the record in the judicial system? Tell me. Is he presumed innocent after his conviction until his appeal? Or is he a convicted felon as labeled until after his appeal is overturned?

Help the public clear the air here.
 
True. Thanks, I had forgotten about those. I haven't heard anything lately about his sentencing date in New York. Is Georgia the only one still pending? I think there was at least one other state that was considering indicting.

Yes

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-could-face-two-more-criminal-indictments-attorney-1905098

A good write up on this case

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/08/02/politics/chutkan-trump-election-interference-case

His sentencing for his 34 convictions will take place on September 18th.

ETA was filed just this morning.

 
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I think there was at least one other state that was considering indicting.
There was some discussion about Arizona, but nothing came of it ... so far.

But I saw something about of of those who was indicted turning state's evidence and that there may be a big announcement soon.


rump 'Fake Elector' Defendant Flips, Attorney General Says

Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes said her office plans to make a "significant announcement" related to the fake elector investigation early next week.
 
It is so very harpy to double down on something you’re completely wrong about.


Why thank you for pointing out how you were so interested yet not interested at the same time.

I didn't think you'd have the balls to step up.
 
Why thank you for pointing out how you were so interested yet not interested at the same time.

I didn't think you'd have the balls to step up.
Why thank you for pointing out how you can’t follow a thread. : )
 
It's a funny old world. A person takes firearms across state lines to a riot where he has no business, shoots a couple of people armed with skateboards. Gets acquitted. That proves he was innocent and a hero.

A person falsifies business records and is convicted. That proves the system is corrupt and the perp is a hero.
 
Esquire, help clarify some legal terminology for us, please.

A person is presumed innocent going into a felony trial, right?

Once a trial is concluded and a jury determines innocence or guilt, the presumption of innocence terminology becomes 'not guilty or 'guilty as charged.'

If found guilty and s/he appeals that guilty verdict, is the term felon applicable, or does the presumption of innocence also carry to the next appeal level?

I'm sure you know he had a trial and will soon appear in court for his sentencing. You may hold out that he was egregiously convicted. Though you expect it to be overturned, you know it is, in fact, a matter of record at this point. Trump was determined to be a convicted felon on 34 counts and still a convicted sexual assault declarant in a civil matter as well.

Is the definition of convicted felon the correct legal description and terminology for Trump's status until it is possibly overturned? Please clarify this point without a political statement like, 'But he wasn't given a fair trial.'

Is that an editing of truth and slander, or is it on the record in the judicial system? Tell me. Is he presumed innocent after his conviction until his appeal? Or is he a convicted felon as labeled until after his appeal is overturned?

Help the public clear the air here.
I wonder why Squire @HisArpy never responded to this urgent plea for clarification? It's been two days and he's made a few posts in this thread since this request.

This is a tad unusual, given his frequent braggadocio about his extensive legal career

Perhaps because he's "semi-retired" and hasn't set foot in a court of law in over five years, he might be a tad rusty in explaining the law to us mere mortals.

...or he could just be chickenshit.

Maybe both.
 
I wonder why Squire @HisArpy never responded to this urgent plea for clarification? It's been two days and he's made a few posts in this thread since this request.

This is a tad unusual, given his frequent braggadocio about his extensive legal career

Perhaps because he's "semi-retired" and hasn't set foot in a court of law in over five years, he might be a tad rusty in explaining the law to us mere mortals.

...or he could just be chickenshit.

Maybe both.
Laywerin' Fer Dummies!
 
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