What destroyed the American conservative MIND?

[SebastianHolt]

No, Dem corruption would only serve to STIMULATE the conservative intellect.

you really are ten bottles short of a six-pack

 

[RoryN]

you really are ten bottles short of a six-pack

"I followed him out to the car with my pussy burning with excitement!"

When I Became A Hotwife - SebastianHolt / DanOkeffie / justawnnabewriter

Does the woman in your story have a STD?

 

[YDB95]

He was voting into office by a majority by both the electoral college and the popular vote.

Irrelevant, and also not quite true. He won a plurality of the popular vote, but not a majority.

That used to mean something. Democrats produced a hoax and attempted to impeach him twice not based on evidence but because of hatred.

The Democrats didn't imagine Trump trying to bribe a foreign official or inciting an insurrection, no matter how many times you say that.

There were no high crimes. The evidence is clear. Most of Trump’s policies today were popular to democrats back in the 90s, now, today because it’s Trump, and the hatred for Trump is off the rails Dems have done a 180.

I'm sure that made perfect sense when Hannity or whoever said it, but you can't even name the policies in question. That says a lot.

Murphy’s ideology is popular among the extreme left, that doesn’t represent the majority.

Overlooking the fact that you seem to define "extreme left" as anyone who disagrees with you, the fact is his negative view of the president is in fact very, very popular nearly everywhere in the world. Including the USA.

Trump is pushing back against the EU, western Europe, NATO and the world bank. Long overdue. They’ve been playing us for suckers for decades and people like you are blind to it. Finally we have a president willing to break ranks and start putting America first.

So we've established that you don't understand NATO or the World Bank any more than Trump does. Noted.

And none of the above is even really on point with respect to whether or not Sen. Murphy was out of line for expressing his opinions, or whether American politicians always represent the president when they go overseas. He wasn't, and they don't.

 

[PaxNurgle]

He was voting into office by a majority by both the electoral college and the popular vote. That used to mean something. Democrats produced a hoax and attempted to impeach him twice not based on evidence but because of hatred. There were no high crimes. The evidence is clear. Most of Trump’s policies today were popular to democrats back in the 90s, now, today because it’s Trump, and the hatred for Trump is off the rails Dems have done a 180.

No. The 2024 election was stolen; Trump was never legitimately elected by the people or congress. At least, this has never been disproven. Unlike 2020 (See what I did there?) But even if you argue otherwise, by now it is clear that the majority of Americans do NOT approve of his actions, particularly with regard to Iran.

And yes, Trump clearly DID commit high crimes. Crimes that anybody else, particularly the Clintons, would be rotting in prison for. Don't pretend that even you don't realize this. The attempts to impeach him were very clearly based on blatant evidence, not hatred. It is appalling to me that you pretend to be a lawyer but yet fail to understand this.

You’re petty,

Murphy’s ideology is popular among the extreme left, that doesn’t represent the majority.

Trump is pushing back against the EU, western Europe, NATO and the world bank. Long overdue. They’ve been playing us for suckers for decades and people like you are blind to it. Finally we have a president willing to break ranks and start putting America first.

Trump's attacks on Iran and Venezuela are damaging America's standing abroad, this is not putting America first. Threatening invasions of Greenland, Cuba and Canada is not putting America first, it is destroying America's credibility on the world stage, paving way for Russia and China to gain influence on the world stage. Which is exactly what his pushing back on NATO is doing. Do you WANT China and Russia to dominate over America in global economic and military policy? Sure seems like you do.

Murphy's apologizing for a rogue president's abuses of power are exactly what the majority of Americans want: A true patriot to stand up for what America is really about. You, on the other hand, never understood what America is, and you probably never will. Hint: It is NOT a Soviet style dictatorship, sorry.

 

[JohnEngelman]

This is how Reagan destroyed the conservative mind:

 

[Sean Renaud]

The first four Raisins were worth a hundred dollars 25 years ago. I have the whole set so they are probably worth a fortune. A lot more than your collection of Pokemen.

I don't have any Pokemon Cards. Never did. I don't know what Raisins you're talking about specifically but if I collected Magic Cards for value and didn't play with them I would have several thousand dollars worth of cards. I should go scan my comics to see what crap I casually picked up over the years that are worth money. I have a handful of video games that are worth a pretty penny even without the boxes or instruction manuels.

Not that that is what was being discussed.

 

[SkyBubble]

When Movement Conservatism got started in 1964, its public faces were at least pseudo-cerebral types like William F. Buckley and George Will.

But it is a very long time, now, since American conservatism has been able to rise above the intellectual level of a claymation Christmas special. It is a very long desclension from Buckley and Will to Beck and Carlson.

Why IS that?

Once again, false. Once again you show that you don't know what you're talking about. VDH is one good example. There are many more.

 

[SkyBubble]

This is how Reagan destroyed the conservative mind:


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Completely not true. It's a spending problem. Five times we've cut tax rates and revenues hve increased every time. Unfortunately, spending has increased faster.

 

[SkyBubble]

Dems love to make poor people poorer. They love creating a dependent class of people, it gets them votes. They love giving freebies at other's expense.

100% true.

 

[Chernosoth]

The pressure to vote the party line while both parties nominate empty suits and talking turds may lead to cognitive dissonance. Is this the best we can do as a nation? Real thinkers, not copy and paste pundits, may try to avoid labels of con and lib because they don't want to be associated with either party.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Completely not true. It's a spending problem. Five times we've cut tax rates and revenues hve increased every time. Unfortunately, spending has increased faster.

Then why did the national debt triple under Reagan? From the end of the Second World War the national debt as a percentage of gross domestic product declined. It declined during the Korean War and the War in Vietnam.

Cuts in spending are unpopular with the voters. So are the tax cuts for the rich for which Republicans are responsible.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Dems love to make poor people poorer. They love creating a dependent class of people, it gets them votes. They love giving freebies at other's expense.

Welfare recipients rarely vote. The War on Poverty was misguided but well intended.

 

[Bray123]

Completely not true. It's a spending problem. Five times we've cut tax rates and revenues hve increased every time. Unfortunately, spending has increased faster.

That only works for the very low-paid. Give a poor person a dollar and they spend it at the local store, benefitting local people who also spend the benefit on local goods/services. Each transaction raises tax revenue.

But give a billionaire another million dollars and they invest it in tax havens.

 

[LLCox]

Frosty, Cold Miser, the California Raisins, a T-Rex announcer and Gumby.

YOU are the one that brought up Cal. raisins. You are so old you can't even remember what you said. Sad

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

The pressure to vote the party line while both parties nominate empty suits and talking turds may lead to cognitive dissonance. Is this the best we can do as a nation? Real thinkers, not copy and paste pundits, may try to avoid labels of con and lib because they don't want to be associated with either party.

 

[Chernosoth]

^You've tapped it enough to start a rhythm.

 

[icanhelp1]

Welfare recipients rarely vote. The War on Poverty was misguided but well intended.

Giving freebies to illegals while veterans are living on our streets is intentional. I don't want to pay a dime for illegals.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Completely not true. It's a spending problem. Five times we've cut tax rates and revenues hve increased every time. Unfortunately, spending has increased faster.

Show your work. I hear this but I've never seen a sliver of evidence supporting it.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Completely not true. It's a spending problem. Five times we've cut tax rates and revenues hve increased every time. Unfortunately, spending has increased faster.

There is plenty of money in the United States. All we need is to direct the government to take the money from those who have it. That is what most of the voters want.

 

[SkyBubble]

Then why did the national debt triple under Reagan?

Revenues doubled over a ten-year span, but for every new $1.00 of revenue, Congress (which was mostly under Democrat control) spent $1.73. IOW, the tax cuts grew the economy (as they had for Coolidge and JFK and would for Bush and Trump) but the Big Government politicians increased spending even faster than the revenue increases.

 

[SkyBubble]

There is plenty of money in the United States. All we need is to direct the government to take the money from those who have it.

That's a good way to reduce the amount of money in the country. They'll move it somewhere where we can't tax it, stop producing as much, reduce wealth-generating activities. When you tax something, you get less of it. Tax wealthe creation and you'll get less wealth creation, which will reduce the standard of living for all of us.

The more income you redistribute, the less income you have.

 

[SkyBubble]

Show your work. I hear this but I've never seen a sliver of evidence supporting it.

Of course you haven't. Your cult doesn't allow you to.

 

[SkyBubble]

BTW, those crazy right wingers as the IRS say that since the 2-17 tax cuts, the wealthiest taxpayers now pay a higher share of taxes than before the cuts.

 

[RoryN]

Your cult

Speaking of cults, enjoy close to 8 pages of SkyBubble supporting Trump (link):

https://forum.literotica.com/search/3328045/?q=Trump&c[users]=SkyBubble&o=relevance

 

[SkyBubble]

@RoryN once again self-owning.