Who cares....

Indeed. But a woman is more than a breeder-incubator, and a fetus is not "a person born" and thus not a baby. If you want to own women's bodies, move to Iraq.

what could be
a possible greater
gift than the
ability or the
responsibility
of being
the creator of
human life?
 
what could be
a possible greater
gift than the
ability or the
responsibility
of being
the creator of
human life?
In other words, a woman is a breeder, an incubator, a cherished sub-person you own and control, your sex-slave.

Fuck that. Stick with goats.
 
life isn't really
all that complicated.

eat
shit
reproduce
die
What's keeping you?

Meanwhile, details intrude. Growing. Learning. Compromising because reality. Building. Destroying. Rethinking. Avoiding or suffering disaster(s). Facing random factors. Being a person. Not being an arsewipe. Yes, a bit complex.
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ObTopic: Jones is in. Moore is out. Trompniks are scared, rightfully. What's next?
 
What's keeping you?

Meanwhile, details intrude. Growing. Learning. Compromising because reality. Building. Destroying. Rethinking. Avoiding or suffering disaster(s). Facing random factors. Being a person. Not being an arsewipe. Yes, a bit complex.
_____

ObTopic: Jones is in. Moore is out. Trompniks are scared, rightfully. What's next?

What I noticed that Bert omitted was taking care of those you brought into the world--that goes directly to what I was unsuccessfully trying to get Bert to face in the first place. He says it's not complex. I find he's hopelessly simplistic about the issue.

And dumb.
 
What's keeping you?

Meanwhile, details intrude. Growing. Learning. Compromising because reality. Building. Destroying. Rethinking. Avoiding or suffering disaster(s). Facing random factors. Being a person. Not being an arsewipe. Yes, a bit complex.
_____

ObTopic: Jones is in. Moore is out. Trompniks are scared, rightfully. What's next?

the millenia don't
care about that.
 
Meanwhile, down under...

Australian probe into child abuse attacks Catholic celibacy
CANBERRA, Australia (AP) — An Australian inquiry into child abuse recommended Friday that the Catholic Church lift its demand of celibacy from clergy and that priests be prosecuted for failing to report evidence of pedophilia heard in the confessional.

Australia abuse: Archbishop rejects call to report confessions - BBC
A senior member of the Roman Catholic Church in Australia has rejected a key recommendation of a landmark inquiry into child sex abuse. It said priests should report abuse confided to them, even in the secret context of the confessional. But the archbishop of Melbourne said any priest who broke the seal of confession would be excommunicated.
Obey the law or go to jail. That would sure boost the number of prison chaplains. Is the Church tax-exempt in Australia. Cancel that. In USA the Church could (but won't) be prosecuted under RICO. What else could happen in Oz?
 
Australian probe into child abuse attacks Catholic celibacy

Australia abuse: Archbishop rejects call to report confessions - BBCObey the law or go to jail. That would sure boost the number of prison chaplains. Is the Church tax-exempt in Australia. Cancel that. In USA the Church could (but won't) be prosecuted under RICO. What else could happen in Oz?

The Royal Commission said more than that. It concluded that by granting forgiveness so readily and at no significant cost to the person confessing, the church was trivialising the seriousness of the crime.

If a priest confesses "I shouted at my housekeepr when she broke a plate then went and buggered the 10 year old altar boy" - a couple of 'Hail Mary's' and a few 'our fathers' is a wholly inadequate response. The Commissioner also asked the local church to refer the questions to Rome for guidance. Rome's default response thus far has been 'nothing to do with us - a local problem.' (Buck passing)

The church's response thus far has been to proclaim the inviolability of their position and to admit nothing and commit to no change.

It ain't good and we have the Cardinal Archbishop of Sydney facing molestation charges at the moment. I expect that the church will refrain from comment until that case is over - meanwhile they will procrastinate as long as possible.

Other organisations which fared badly with the commission were the Salvation Army and various Evangelical and Episcopalian instiutions. 15,000 separate cases of abuse were reported to the Commission but no-one knew anything was going on!
 
Australian probe into child abuse attacks Catholic celibacy

Australia abuse: Archbishop rejects call to report confessions - BBCObey the law or go to jail. That would sure boost the number of prison chaplains. Is the Church tax-exempt in Australia. Cancel that. In USA the Church could (but won't) be prosecuted under RICO. What else could happen in Oz?

A lot of the churches in Australia have serious issues, like money laundering and I've heard of some being involved in drug trafficking. My family is fairly religious and we regularly went to church as a child, but we eventually left and decided to never go back once we realised how corrupt and blatantly hypocritical most of the church leaders are. All of the chaplains I knew were a bunch of arseholes who were only there for the money.
 
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