WHY ARE ALL COPS SUCH ASSHOLES?

[Gingersnap]

All cops are not assholes. Your friends didn't get one you did so deal with it. You deserved the tickets and chances are that you had done the same things before and would continue until you had to face the consequences. I see young women all the time in the ED post MVA. I have yet to see one that didn't talk like a rabid raid snorting truckdriver. Pardon me if the hundreds of accidents and all the deaths I have seen have left me with a very bad taste in my mouth. So from one lead foot to another stay out of the driver seat if you have been drinking. As for the tickets be sweet say you are sorry and quit squealing. Every
person in your life would rather you be late then put your life in danger.

 

[Laurel]

Laurel this wasn't about the abuses of a few or the protection of them by others. Your point is well taken but it is certainly not applicable in this case.

Oh, I know - it was a tangent on the topic of cops. I even said specifically "Okay, here's a tangent guaranteed to get me flamed." My thoughts were brought on by recent instances in the news. Traffic tickets are tickets. I say pay them & GTF on with your life, or fight them in court if you want, or whatever. Of course, this is easy for me to say - I've never received one.

 

[SeXy ReDHeD]

I have nothing left to say on this.

I know this is my own thread and all, but I honestly didn't expect anyone to respond, much less bash me that way (yeah, yeah I know... you didn't bash me... I took it too personal... whatever. I can't help but be hurt. I'm not a criminal). In any case, I really would like to just drop it here.

I'm tired of getting angry over it. I am stressing too much over this IRL, and I don't want to deal with it here.
Thanks.

 

[KillerMuffin]

One of the things Red seems so miffed about here is that she was punished when she admitted her foul ID faking deed and cooperated nicely with the police and her friends got off scot free despite being asses.

This whole thing is just as much about responsibility, personal accountability and honor as the police and their behavior. Most likely the reason your friends got away with it is because our police are bound by laws. They can't punish the guilty without evidence. You confessed, therefore they had evidence. No doubt this is the reason for the seeming injustice. Our justice system isn't perfect, some evildoers slip through the cracks simply by virtue of lack of evidence.

Instead of bitching about how much you hate police for giving you your just desserts, perhaps you should consider your own actions in this affair. You broke the law. Upon being caught at it, you admitted culpability and held yourself accountable for your actions. You behaved honorably and your friends did not. You acted like an adult when you were in trouble. Start acting like an adult again and quit whining and complaining about things that are your fault anyway. You can't change anyone but yourself. At least you have the knowledge that you are an adult, and your friends are still children. From the description of your friends, I wouldn't want to associate with them. "A man is measured by the company he keeps."

This world doesn't play fair, and if it seems to, don't trust it, it's lying.

 

[Naked Hunny]

I believe what sxxyangel was referring to was a conditional lisence!! Here in PA if you have no other way of getting to or from work you can drive but only during those times you are coming and leaving work. If by chance you are pulled over the cops(state) will call your place of employment to see if for a fact you were coming or leaving work!! If you are you still get the punishment but not the punishment of driving on a suspended lisence. If it is at another time of the day you will automatically get another fine, your lisence suspended for a longer amount of time maybe even a trip to jail!!

 

[Whispersecret]

I was always brought up to respect them... that they're there to save my life and all that bullshit. Whatever. I respect them because they have power and can ruin me, not because they've ever done anything for me.

That doesn't sound like respect to me. If you refer to their selfless work as bullshit, or only treat them politely because of their power over you, then your definition of respect is skewed.

Also, whenever you say, "Whatever." after a statement, that's like rolling your eyes, which means you're not sincere at all.


My job as a teacher is sort of like being a police officer. Classrooms need rules (obviously), but they also need consequences, and a teacher who is willing to dole out those consequences. Believe me, I don't enjoy nailing kids. Years ago when I was a student teacher, I had to be FORCED by my master teacher to put a kid's name on the board. It is not fun to be the "bad guy." However, when a kid knows he's not supposed to scratch his desk with the scissors and does it anyway, I MUST punish him. The ultimate fault lies with the rulebreaker because there would be no problem if they had not broken the rule in the first place.

In a classroom, yes, I can give warnings. I often do. However, you can't give warnings all the time or the rules no longer have any value at all. Humans, adults as well as children, respond when there are consequences to pay for bad behavior.

Life will rarely be fair. You might as well learn that right now. But I think Bigdog is right--your friends will get their just desserts if they continue to act that way around cops. If I were you, I'd start hanging around with different people. I wouldn't want to be there when their shit hits the fan.

(Come to think of it, sometimes parents are sort of the lawyers of the school. They come in and try to negotiate for their "clients." <laughs> Luckily for teachers (AND for the kid), sometimes they just stand there and encourage the kid to plead "guilty.")

Are there cops reading this? Is there anything those cops could have done to find out the identities of her wise-ass friends? Why DID they get away with it?

 

[Lethal_beauty_27]

i would of agreed with you competely but the other day on my way to work ( i was running late) i was going 160 in a 60 mile zone. a cop pulled me over and god he was cute..... he gave me a ticket for going 75 only 15 miles over......and said im doing you a favor slow down....and i said thank you and heres my favor dont gamble at my table ( im a dealer at a casino).

 

[SeXy ReDHeD]

I don't know who here cares, but...

My trial (for the fake ID thing) was on Thursday, and all the charges were dismissed. I followed Fallen Angel's advice and got a lawyer who was an ex DA (so he knew all the cops), and he was able to talk to the officer and get him to drop the charges.

As for the speeding ticket, well, that cost me a little over $500... I don't want to think about that.


I'm sure some of you are disappointed that I didn't get "punished" but oh well. Can't please everybody!

I'm also sure that I'll be asked if I "learned my lesson"...

I really hesitate to answer this question (because I know I'm just going to get a bunch of patronizing, snide "I told you so...", "It's for your own good...", "I knew you'd come to your senses..." comments...) but I will anyway.

The answer is yes. I don't drive fast anymore, and I've not gone near a damn liquor establishment in months...




[Edited by SeXy ReDHeD on 10-14-2000 at 01:26 AM]

 

[Wizard]

I wouldn't say that...............I think the 500 bucks hurt enough..................thats enough cash to make most folks think twice..................

Glad to hear you made it......................It is all over now, so keep yourself out of trouble now...............

 

[Naked Hunny]

Wizzie dear you are doing that whole daddy thing again you really need to stop that!!

 

[Cheyenne]

Re: I don't know who here cares, but...

...
I really hesitate to answer this question (because I know I'm just going to get a bunch of patronizing, snide "I told you so...", "It's for your own good...", "I knew you'd come to your senses..." comments...) but I will anyway.

Nope, no snide comment from me. It shows maturity when you admit you were wrong and you change your ways. And you post to tell us anyway, even while thinking you'll get snide comments.

 

[insideShiraz]

Red...

Why did you have Fake I.D.?

To get into nightclubs? I lived in "La.La." land for awhile, and never gave the Police high speed pursuits from one Dangerous neighborhood to the next, at 100 miles per hour...I was homeless at the time that I was there and I gave them due respect, and they gave me the same. I anwered their 2 or 3 questions and they left. I'll never understand what possesses a person to become a cop, but the law in the town that I'm in now makes up about the third highest revenue for this state (last I heard), tickets and people in jail for months at a time (70 dollars a head per day). I'm not judging your driving, but I wish I had a dollar for everytime someone made a right turn without looking to see if a pedestrian was ready to cross the street. Driving is a thing to be aware of at all times, or get a job somewhere along the Autobahn. Let's go driving in the Mountains somtime...

 

[Magic Merlin]

Re: I don't know who here cares, but...

As for the speeding ticket, well, that cost me a little over $500... I don't want to think about that.

I'm sure some of you are disappointed that I didn't get "punished" but oh well. Can't please everybody!

[Edited by SeXy ReDHeD on 10-14-2000 at 01:26 AM]

$500 is a pretty hard hit all by itself. For me its not about punishment, its about accepting things as the way they are and then moving on. If you feel you've learned something positive out of all of this, then that is to your credit..

Congrats on getting through this.

MM

 

[insideShiraz]

Oh, Oh...$500?...

rEd...Better trade that 'Stang for a Geo el Prompto...

 

[CreamyLady]

$500? Ow. But relatively inexpensive for wisdom, all things considered.

 

[CelestialBody]

 

[Gaucho]

Re: I don't know who here cares, but...

I'm also sure that I'll be asked if I "learned my lesson"...

The answer is yes.

One of the nice things about middle age is being able to look back over your life with a sense of wonderment and perspective. So when you say that you've learned your lesson, I have to wonder just what it is that you've learned.

For example, have you learned…

That life isn't fair? Every day bad things happen to good people and bad people get away (sometimes literally) with murder. That's just the way it is and after 47 years of living I have no expectation that this will change. So right away your expectation that telling the truth would somehow save you from the consequences of your actions was based upon a faulty premise. Likewise, your anger at your friends for getting off by lying and not cooperating can be traced to the same root. The truth is - whether you think using a fake ID in order to drink underage is wrong or not - that you knew you were doing something that, if caught, you would be punished for. And even then, when all is said and done; you weren't really punished at all, were you? Except for the money you had to pay your lawyer (I'm assuming you had to pay him something for what he did), you got off literally scot-free. Perhaps, seen in that light, the hefty fine you have to pay for the speeding ticket is something of an equalizing factor, after all.

How much the people on this board care about you? Whenever I visit this board I am amazed at the quality of empathy and compassion contained in the posts. For all the bitching and flaming that we complain about, there exists at all times here a sense of community and heartfelt sharing that I never would have dreamed existed; certainly not on a site dedicated to pornography. If the board has a purpose it seems to me that this is it; that, over and above the general licentiousness that we all enjoy, our reason for posting (and the thing which brings most of us back time and again) is to share ideas, advice and counsel in an air of freedom and understanding. And, by doing so, to become better and more interesting people. It's obvious that you didn't agree with a lot of the counsel that you were given but all of it, it seemed to me, was genuine and given without pretense for one purpose only: To help.

On a related note, I think that all of us should take a moment to thank Laurel and Manu for creating this site and maintaining it the way that they do. Without question, this site truly is a labor of love and that is one reason why it attracts so many interesting people and quality posts. And if that means I'm butt kissing, then so be it. Bring 'em here, you two. Big smooches for both of you. You deserve it.

Finally, that the only true reward for being honest is the ability to look yourself in the eye and know that, to the best of your ability, you did the right thing? At some point in your life, the idea of being honest was impressed upon you to the point where the notion took root and flowered. If you know the person or persons responsible for that you should make it a point to thank them, because it's one of the greatest and most important lessons you can be taught. Honesty and personal responsibility form the pillars upon which everything you accomplish in your life will stand. Without those two things as your foundation, you are literally building on sand.

Years from now, it may shock you to realize that the $500 you are agonizing over now may turn out to be one of the least expensive and most rewarding penalties you will ever pay.

 

[Sonora]

Here's my 'why cops are assholes' story

I'm driving on a divided highway with my cruise set around 63-64 mph. Yes, the limit was 55. Anyway, I'm getting passed by all of these other cars and trucks. I'm coming up on a car going slower than I was and had to take my cruise off. When the passing lane was clear I pulled out and re-activated my cruise. At NO time did I touch the pedal. In the median was a state boy. His lights were on and he pulled out after me. Thinking that he must be after one of those earlier cars that had passed me, I immedately pulled into the right lane. He came over behind me. Then I noticed a 2nd state boy in the breakdown lane and had to pull back to the left lane (it's a law here). State boy follows me again. Now I realize that he's after me. I get a ticket for going 69!!

Then when I get home, there is a story on the news where a 12 year old boy had been killed that afternoon because the cops decided to conduct YET ANOTHER high-speed chase through a residential area. At three o-clock on a sunny summer afternoon no less!! I haven't heard much about the case lately, but at the time, the cops were refusing to say why they were chasing the guy that hit the little boy.

Do I have much respect for police? No. And it's not because I got the ticket. (I even pulled off of the highway onto a county road so that it would be safer for the cop than sitting on the highway with most traffic going by about 70.) I think that their testesosterone gets in the way of any good judgement they may have. At least that's the only explaination I can come up with why they do stupid things like chase someonethorugh a neighborhood like that.

Oh, what did I learn from the ticket? It doesn't matter how fast you're driving, just don't be last in line.

 

[KatieSky]

You Hate Cops?

I love cops! Policemen are so sexy and if you're nice and submissive, they let you off everytime. At least they do with me! MMMM....Cops are such a turn on! I love that power-trip they're on. I love seeing how they melt in my hand and how I can wrap them around my finger!!

I agree doing 59 in a 55 should have gotten you a warning. In my state, they CAN'T pull you over for doing 5 MPH or less over the speed limit. Apparently it's not like that where you live. But since you got 1 ticket, that woulda been my clue to slow down for a while until my licensce plate got out of their systems.

As for the fake ID, hate to break it to you but you deserved to get arrested. I have a feeling there's more to the story than "I got picked on by the nasty bad cops while my friends got off scott free". It don't work like that most of the time. If it did in your case, then yeah, you got fucked over, but all we have is your word.

I got arrested once. I was young and stupid and thought it would be cool to shoplift. I'd never done it before, and the first time I got away with it. Got away with it the second and third times too. The fourth I wasn't so lucky. I got caught. And I deserved to get caught. I deserved t get caught the other 3 times too. No, I didn't like it. No, I didn't have enough money to pay the fine. What the hell could I do? I was shoplifting for god's sake. The whole incident kinda made me see it was a stupid thing to do, though.

 

[Jeff726]

KatieSky I wanna be a cop.

 

[Juliangel]

Not all are. I was driving home from see my dad in Florida and got pulled over in Luverne Alabama for speeding (it is a pretty small town).

It was a local cop that pulled me over and I knew I was in trouble because I had been singing with the kids and was not paying attention to the speed limit.

I rolled my window down and put my hands on the steering wheel and waited. When he got to the car he said you know I need to see your license. With a nervous smile and my best sweet as suger accent I told him I knew that but I had always heard it was best to leave your hands on the wheel until asked to move then because the officers have enough to do beside worry what your hands were doing.

Well he seemed to appreciate that and I got it out for him and he looked at it for a minute and ask if I had realized I was doing 55 in a 35. I said turning red, No the last sign I saw said 55 kind of wincing and smiling at the same time.

He gave a grin that told me he really did believe me and said "Well I guess that means you missed the entire 2 mile stretch on 45."

I wanted to die I just looked up and said "Yes sure I guess I did" and he just smiled at me. He was adorable too, if it had not been against the law I would have popped him in the hatch and brought him home with me.

He told me to watch for the signs and only gave me a warning and let me go.

 

[SeXy ReDHeD]

Well shit, since it's back again...

I guess I'll reply. Finally.

Thank you all for not making the snide comments I thought I would get. I really, really appreciate it.

Oh yeah... and Gaucho said this:
"One of the nice things about middle age is being able to look back over your life with a sense of wonderment and
perspective. So when you say that you've learned your lesson, I have to wonder just what it is that you've learned. "

All I can answer is that I've learned what I'm capable of learning right now. I am not middle-aged and cannot truly comprehend what you must feel when you look back... I can imagine, I can try to feel, but I never will be able to.

I do realize that life isn't always fair... but that doesn't mean I like it. Or have to like it.


I do realize that there is a great deal of companionship and friendship existent on the BB, and I do realize that a few people care to read my posts and care when I'm in trouble. But I am not so naive that I don't realize that this really is just a passtime for most folks, and that I wouldn't be too missed if I were to suddenly disappear.

You also said:

"Finally, that the only true reward for being honest is the ability to look yourself in the eye and know that, to the best of your ability, you did the right thing? At some point in your life, the idea of being honest was impressed upon you to the point where the notion took root and flowered. If you know the person or persons responsible for that you should make it a point to thank them, because it's one of the greatest and most important lessons you can be taught. Honesty and personal responsibility form the pillars upon which everything you accomplish in your life will stand. Without those two things as your foundation, you are literally building on sand.

"Years from now, it may shock you to realize that the $500 you are agonizing over now may turn out to be one of the
least expensive and most rewarding penalties you will ever pay."

Honestly I don't see that. I don't think I learned the lesson I was supposed to learn here. I learned that the people who lied got a better deal. Maybe when I am older I will think differently. I don't know. I do know that I lost $500. Maybe it's not a lot to you, but to me, a full-time student and part-time secretary (slave), that's more than a month's earnings.

Maybe I didn't learn life lessons, but I learned that I will get screwed if I break the law. I learned that nobody cares, nobody hurts but me. And that no matter how much I bitch and moan, it's not going to change anything. No matter how unfair life it is, I can't change it. I can only change my own behavior.

 

[Ksss]

Just my two cents...this weekend 5 kids, all under the age of 18 were in a terrible car accident. Two of these people were girls aged 16, both died, two others boys aged 16 and 17 are still in the hospital in critical condition. The driver of the car a boy of 17 walked away with minor injuries. The cause??? They had been partying, the 17 who walked away had used a fake ID to buy beer. And you think this cop gave you shit??? This cop probably saved your life and a few others! As for speeding...well, if it had been me, I would have laid low and avoided doing anything to bring the cops attention my way. Yes, there are some bad cops out there, but the good, really good cops, far outnumber the bad apples. Just think if we didn't have the aid of cops to insure our safety whether it be on the road or in a bank or store...where would this society be????

 

[Gaucho]

Re: Well shit, since it's back again...

No matter how unfair life it is, I can't change it. I can only change my own behavior.

You may have learned more than you realize, Sexy. Good luck and thank you.

 

[fun4me/him]

Creamy Lady took all my good ideas!

One other thing to take into consideration is that every day these men and women who have dedicated their lives to protecting us leave their families and come to work facing the thought of never coming home..and often for less money than you would imagine. How much would it take to pay you to put yourself in a life threatening situation? I garuntee you that most law enforcement personnel dont' make the kind of money you would require. However, they go out day after day and take constant berating from people who have broken the law and are angry at having been caught. Can anyone recall the last time you read an article in the newspaper or saw something on television about a cop doing something heroic? My guess would be NO, but the men and women in blue do things that make them heroes every night.

Just my 2 cents

[Edited by SimplySouthern on 08-07-2000 at 02:23 PM]

I am from St Louis Mo and we have had 5 policeman killed in the line of duty within the last 6 to 8 months. None of these have been declared to be "bad cops" doing something wrong. These men were out there doing their job to protect us. We never hear anything about the policemen/women until something goes wrong. Either someone is killed or the officer is killed. I so much agree with SimplySouthern, most people would not do this job for what they get paid.

I have a family member who is a police officer. I know what he gets paid. I have listened to audio tapes and watched video tapes of different situations he has been in and tried to keep my heart from racing because of the fear I felt for him after the fact. I have been awaken at 4:30 in the morning by a phone call to watch the television only to see his car shot full of bullet holes from a semi automatic weapon.

I think it is time to start appreciating what these men and women do for us.

Unfortunately there are bad cops out there. Just like in business there are unethical people. Yes something should be done about it. Make them pay for what they do wrong. But stop taking the mentality that because there are some like that they are all like that. This mentality is what has caused many of todays problems. Criminals do not serve time because it is automatically assumed that the police have done wrong.

I am sorry, I know that this is soapbox ranting, but this issue really irritates me. If you don't want to be in trouble with the police then do not do things that are against the law.