Why are healthcare workers lacking basic protective gear?

[zipman]

Warnings weren't heeded.

Legislatures didn't fund restocking them.

Stupidity.

 

[silver gurl]

Very few people are truly isolating or social distancing.
The virus is just running it's natural course, but of course,
manis more powerful than nature (unless he is Donald Trump).

Not true In my location. Isolation and social distancing is taken very serious here. It’s a different world in Quebec. We are number 1 in North America with follow through. Is it helping? It’s still pretty grim.

 

[icanhelp1]

There are lots of upsides to "just in time" global supply chains.

Until they are disrupted...then you've got some scrambling to do.

I'm actually impressed with the way Governments are dealing with this threat, overall.

It's cost efficient, eliminates excessive inventories but relying on CCP for anything penny wise and pound foolish!

 

[Botanical11B]

Over two months, Australia was depleted of more than 100 tons of medical equipment, secretly shipped to China.

Apparently employees working in half-Chinese-owned offices all over the world were told to do the same (go and buy as many masks/ medical equipment as they can from local pharmacies and warehouses, and ship them to China).
I would have done the same for my people, but have you noticed how many laypeople in China wear n95 masks? While our ICU nurses don't have them.


Coronavirus: 'Vital medical supplies sent to China' as export ban comes 'too late', Aussie hospitals grapple with shortages
https://9now.nine.com.au/60-minutes...hortages/94deca73-5640-4f08-913f-1ca1069b9473

Another glaring example of technocratic incompetence:
That they haven't caught up with That drain in local supplies either.

China has national/cultural pride....Aussies, Eu, US and the west fucking loathe themselves. They very clearly would rather their own die than offend the Chinese, because that would be racist!!! HURRRRRR

Keep the kumbyah going and the borders open folks.....diversity is our strength.

The west deserves what it gets.

 

[icanhelp1]

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[SpeareChucker]

Not true In my location. Isolation and social distancing is taken very serious here. It’s a different world in Quebec. We are number 1 in North America with follow through. Is it helping? It’s still pretty grim.

So, you have closed all groceries and shut down their resupply?
That is the basis of the point I am making.
We are only pretending.

For example, evidence is mounting that patient zero entered New York
well before anyone was really aware of the problem emanating from China.
But somehow, the government, because Trump presides, was supposed to
anticipate, prepare, shut off flights, keep cruise ships out of port and
institute the protocols which they now claim are stemming the virus,
whereas this skeptic thinks it is more likely the virus is beginning
to actually inhibit itself because of the twin-fold mechanism
of moderating and well as saturation infecting which
creates the immunity to subsequent infection.

 

[HisArpy]

The there's the other side of the coin.

Is there really that much of a universal shortage? Or is the news media making a mountain out of a molehill?

 

[Aglaopheme]

Not true In my location. Isolation and social distancing is taken very serious here. It’s a different world in Quebec. We are number 1 in North America with follow through. Is it helping? It’s still pretty grim.

No, no. He’s the expert. Like that time he and Ish said no one was enforcing stay at home orders.

 

[Aglaopheme]

See?

 

[oneblueye]

hey...

Frontline healthcare workers working on infectious wards and ICU's are now re-using masks or buying gowns from Bunnings.

And no, it's not just Trump. Democrats didn't prepare for it either.
And it's not just the States. The UK, Australia, NZ and Canada have the same issues, their press are simply less transparent.

And no, it's not just "because China was our main supplier", "because China lied about the severity of the pandemic."
Local manufacturers could have been mobilized much earlier, mayors could have put a stop to wasteful bulk selling of masks at office depos and warehouses much earlier, DHB senior managers could have signaled the risk and asked for money from politicians much earlier.
It's not That hard, these frontline workers make less than 0.01% of the population.

How is it it possible that none of these technocrats had the common sense to foresee and prepare for one of the most vital issue in an outbreak?
It's no longer a matter of how many will catch the virus, it's a matter of how many of them will become incapacitated or even die.

when shit like this happens you can bet even money that POLTICS are its root causes.

 

[SpeareChucker]

No, no. He’s the expert. Like that time he and Ish said no one was enforcing stay at home orders.

Huh?


Link?

 

[SpeareChucker]

Lest we forget, especially in a Presidential election year,
the press has a vested interest in outcomes and polling:

https://pjmedia.com/trending/caught...rse-who-claims-she-quit-due-to-lack-of-masks/

Hands up, don't shoot.
White Hispanic!

 

[sygn]

I don't understand why some of you don't find it absolutely grotesque.
It's like this war is carried out with 95% of us parked in front of TV eating chips and popcorn, watching how our soldiers are fighting on our behalf, dressed in trashbags and carrying wooden swords.

No amount of rationalizations "it's democracy and freedom, you can't order manufacturers to do what you want or ebay/ OfficeDepot to restrict bulk sales" "supply chain", "it's China" will talk me out of saying that it was gross incompetence.

They started thinking about the shortage of masks among our ICU doctors and nurses only in March, but they should have started to consider it end of January.
The moment your Intelligence tells you that Taiwan's CDC raised alarms, you check to make sure you have a go-to emergency stock.

Unless, like JADA implied, something dodgy is going on, and masks& are being redirected according to favouritism, not necessity.

 

[HisArpy]

I don't understand why some of you don't find it absolutely grotesque.
It's like this war is carried out with 95% of us parked in front of TV eating chips and popcorn, watching how our soldiers are fighting on our behalf, dressed in trashbags and carrying wooden swords.

No amount of rationalizations "it's democracy and freedom, you can't order manufacturers to do what you want or ebay/ OfficeDepot to restrict bulk sales" "supply chain", "it's China" will talk me out of saying that it was gross incompetence.

They started thinking about the shortage of masks among our ICU doctors and nurses only in March, but they should have started to consider it end of January.
The moment your Intelligence tells you that Taiwan's CDC raised alarms, you check to make sure you have a go-to emergency stock.

Unless, like JADA implied, something dodgy is going on, and masks& are being redirected according to favoritism, not necessity.

It's not grotesque if it's not actually happening. The CBS article debunked some of it and I suspect that it's more a case of the usual media sensationalism than anything else.

But as you seem wont to do, you find a story that trips your emotional trigger and run with it rather than investigating whether it's true or not.

And then you take us to task for not being all bipolar about it like you are.

 

[sygn]

It's not grotesque if it's not actually happening. The CBS article debunked some of it and I suspect that it's more a case of the usual media sensationalism than anything else.

But as you seem wont to do, you find a story that trips your emotional trigger and run with it rather than investigating whether it's true or not.

And then you take us to task for not being all bipolar about it like you are.

I'd rather believe the American and Australian Intensive care doctors and nurses
and the Union representative who contacted 60 minutes Australia (among other media outlets) than your sources.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRc1oJACZzo&t=8s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3s6kcXi4pA&t=387s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtvNc9vhx94&t=317s

 

[HisArpy]

I'd rather believe the American and Australian Intensive care doctors and nurses
and the Union representative who contacted 60 minutes Australia (among other media outlets) than your sources.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRc1oJACZzo&t=8s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3s6kcXi4pA&t=387s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtvNc9vhx94&t=317s

Uh huh. As per your usual MO you find a story that you can emotionally relate with and then deny everything and anything that proves the story to be fake news.

You WANT to believe.

Newsflash for you: Single source media will ALWAYS lie to you in one way or another. It's not the world's fault if you're so gullible that you don't do your own research to verify if your media source is true or not.

 

[sygn]

Uh huh. As per your usual MO you find a story that you can emotionally relate with and then deny everything and anything that proves the story to be fake news.

You WANT to believe.

Newsflash for you: Single source media will ALWAYS lie to you in one way or another. It's not the world's fault if you're so gullible that you don't do your own research to verify if your media source is true or not.

Yes, the union representative was lying on national TV, when she said they'd been inundated with calls and emails. As did those three doctors,one of whom is head of intensive care at 6 major hospitals in NY.

And perhaps you and Bot should teach those hysterical workers lessons in coolness and professionalism and bravery.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

That "just in case" stash should have been built on the moment Intelligence and Taiwan's CDC announced that something smells fishy in China.

Taiwan learned their lesson hard with SARS, and their population supported spending money to ensure SARS or something similar never occurs again.

Moving forward perhaps Governments will also learn, that funding Pandemic planing/infrastructure is a good thing. ( no this is not a shot at Trump, the US was not the only country to spend money on other "things" over Pandemic response)

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Well, never thought I'd agree with you but I do. China fucked the world! Not reporting person to person transmission and the rate of transmission in a timely manner set back reaction time and supply chains. W.H.O. is a fraud and has some serious explaining to do. China not imposing a self travel ban was irresponsible, no, more than that, CRIMINAL! Rethinking how to protect national supply chains is going to be top of the list of things to change. AARs will be fast and furious after all this shit is over.

The exception that proves the rule....

 

[Botanical11B]

And perhaps you and Bot should teach those hysterical workers lessons in coolness and professionalism and bravery.

If you don't like the "I told you so" don't ask for it.

You can't undo not being prepared....all you can do is enjoy the fucking and do better next time.

 

[HisArpy]

Yes, the union representative was lying on national TV, when she said they'd been inundated with calls and emails. As did those three doctors,one of whom is head of intensive care at 6 major hospitals in NY.

And perhaps you and Bot should teach those hysterical workers lessons in coolness and professionalism and bravery.

Well, according to CBS, the "nurse" who gave her interview about not having masks or other PPE causing her to quit her new job at the hospital, LIED ABOUT IT.

Then there's the union which was hoarding 39000 masks and then tried to sell them for $5 EACH when a 10-pack was $25.

Mike Lindell retooled his factory and started making masks at the rate of 1000 per day.

3M was SELLING masks around the world.

The Patriots team owner flew the team plane to China to haul boxes of masks back home and donate them.

The stories go on and on and on. There wasn't a "shortage", there was a slow supply chain / delivery issue. So yeah, whoever gave that TV interview for 60 minutes either LIED or the show edited his interview for sensationalism and maximum ratings. And you swallowed it all.

 

[HisArpy]

If you don't like the "I told you so" don't ask for it.

You can't undo not being prepared....all you can do is enjoy the fucking and do better next time.

I'd also be willing to bet that she hasn't ever eve considered military service, police service, becoming a firefighter, or any other 1st responder job.

Yet she tosses out the bravery bomb like it's meaningless.