Why Executions Matter.

[1sickbastard]

He was released by kind hearted libs who care for criminals more than victims. He did murder, darling. The nice people let him out early.

I don't support letting killers out, particularly when coupled with rape and mutilation.

 

[about_average]

Here in Georgia the death penalty killed two innocent people in front of a store in the late 90's/early 2000's. Some guy who was too chicken to commit suicide picked two people at random and shot them both dead in front of witnesses so he'd get sentenced to death.
In that case, capital punishment resulted in the death of 3 people.

 

[FGB]

Except an executed innocent is still DEAD. For that person there is no restitution and no rehabilitation. It makes a mockery of the notion of justice.

There is no perfection in this world...

 

[Riles]

I'm always torn. I whole heartedly believe in "an eye for an eye", but when the proof is less than 100%, ethics muddle it up.

 

[Que]

Because modern forensics is as good as it is, and juries exposed to CSI are expecting fantasy forensics, I have a hard time picturing a death penalty case in the last 10 years that has an actual miscarriage of justice. Or system is already designed for the occasional guilty person to go free.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I don't support letting killers out, particularly when coupled with rape and mutilation.

Had to make room fer them evil pot heads....that's conservative priority number 1.

There is no perfection in this world...

So you're fine with the state executing innocent people so long as they sometimes get bad ones too?

Conservative concepts of justice ladies and gentlemen.....

 

[colddiesel]

Hang 'em high?

Why did America give up on hanging? It was cheap, it only required one executioner, it was quick, and it was certain.

In the bad old days it also provided a perk to the executioner in that the body could be sold to anatomists.

Shooting is messy, as is the guillotine. Electocution stinks (burning flesh) and poison doesn't work too well - and all of these methods make the body useless for spare parts.

 

[Ramone45]

Why did America give up on hanging? It was cheap, it only required one executioner, it was quick, and it was certain.

In the bad old days it also provided a perk to the executioner in that the body could be sold to anatomists.

Shooting is messy, as is the guillotine. Electocution stinks (burning flesh) and poison doesn't work too well - and all of these methods make the body useless for spare parts.

Hanging is the way to go.

 

[oggbashan]

Hanging is the way to go.

Old fashioned English hanging, as practised in public at Tyburn, was slow strangulation lasting up to an hour.

Modern handing, which breaks the neck from the calculated drop, is quick and effective but can still go wrong if the rope slips, or the length of drop is miscalculated.

Too short a drop = slow strangulation.

Too long a drop = decapitation.

Whatever hanging method, old or new, is used, the person being hanged evacuates their bladder and bowels - messy!

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Why did America give up on hanging? It was cheap, it only required one executioner, it was quick, and it was certain.

In the bad old days it also provided a perk to the executioner in that the body could be sold to anatomists.

Shooting is messy, as is the guillotine. Electocution stinks (burning flesh) and poison doesn't work too well - and all of these methods make the body useless for spare parts.

I've studied executions and 'lynchings' and remain puzzled at what decides a hanging vs a firing squad. I suspect bullets greatly increase risks for spectators tho duels are risky, too.

Bodies. Grave robbing was popular for ages but replaced by Night Doctors at the end of the 19th Century. Night Doctors supplied cadavers as needed, when needed. Usually same day delivery. That is, these people snatched poor souls off the street at night, murdered them, and delivered the corpse where you wanted it. And they furnished whatever sort of body the buyer wanted.

 

[Fata Morgana]

Old fashioned English hanging, as practised in public at Tyburn, was slow strangulation lasting up to an hour.

Modern handing, which breaks the neck from the calculated drop, is quick and effective but can still go wrong if the rope slips, or the length of drop is miscalculated.

Too short a drop = slow strangulation.

Too long a drop = decapitation.

Whatever hanging method, old or new, is used, the person being hanged evacuates their bladder and bowels - messy!

You ever read about Albert Pierrepoint? Bet you have. He had it down to a fine art.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Back in 1910 New York paroled a 13 year old boy to Florida.

In Florida this boy ambushed a 12 year old girl on her way to school.

He raped her, beat her with a bicycle chain, and stabbed her 65 times.

Volusia County hanged him after a trial. He was 14.

The New York papers screamed BLOODY MURDER and called Floridians BARBARIANS.

Today we'd label him PRE-PTSD and kiss his little ass till he fell over dead from sugar poisoning.

 

[colddiesel]

You ever read about Albert Pierrepoint? Bet you have. He had it down to a fine art.

Piererpoint and his uncle developed a table to calculate the length of drop required to snap the neck of prisoners of different weights. The so called hangmans noose was never used; the rope was passed through a two inch steel washer which was placed just behind the jaw under the ear. The washer ensured a cleanly snapped neck.

Incidentally Pierrepoint hanged seven American servicemen during WWII. Six were black and one was a native American. Oddly enough the white servicemen were sent home for trial where the sentences were generally tougher especially for rape.

English courts during WWII were very lenient with servicemen on rape charges. The judges were often very critical of the 'victims.'

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Piererpoint and his uncle developed a table to calculate the length of drop required to snap the neck of prisoners of different weights. The so called hangmans noose was never used; the rope was passed through a two inch steel washer which was placed just behind the jaw under the ear. The washer ensured a cleanly snapped neck.

Incidentally Pierrepoint hanged seven American servicemen during WWII. Six were black and one was a native American. Oddly enough the white servicemen were sent home for trial where the sentences were generally tougher especially for rape.

English courts during WWII were very lenient with servicemen on rape charges. The judges were often very critical of the 'victims.'

Two separate studies by women revealed rapists often catch STDs from their victims.

 

[Fata Morgana]

Piererpoint and his uncle developed a table to calculate the length of drop required to snap the neck of prisoners of different weights. The so called hangmans noose was never used; the rope was passed through a two inch steel washer which was placed just behind the jaw under the ear. The washer ensured a cleanly snapped neck.

Incidentally Pierrepoint hanged seven American servicemen during WWII. Six were black and one was a native American. Oddly enough the white servicemen were sent home for trial where the sentences were generally tougher especially for rape.

English courts during WWII were very lenient with servicemen on rape charges. The judges were often very critical of the 'victims.'

He hanged some high profile Nazis too if I remember correctly. I'm sure Irma Grese was one. I have an old book about him at home somewhere. Fascinating.