Why the Left hates guns

[FakeNews]

After every mass shooting we see the same reaction. The Left instantly demands we must ‘do something’ to stop gun violence, attacks the NRA, accuses gun advocates of being responsible for murder and generally exposes their consistent, yet passionate, ignorance on the entire subject. No matter how many times we correct them on their glaring mistakes and wrong information, they continue repeating it with ever more outrage and indignation.

The Right and the Left react to law differently. The Right generally view laws as useful tools in organizing society, but are easily manipulated through proper channels when necessary. The Left views law as a moral guidebook detailing what is right and what is wrong and generally defer to the law as an ultimate authority. When a mass shooting happens the Right is mostly interested in motivation and methodology. The Left demands to know why the government allowed it occur in the first place.

The Left is profoundly ignorant on the nature of guns or gun ownership. From the absurd mis-reading of the 2nd Amendment to arguments over ‘who needs this or that gun’ the Left routinely shows it has no idea what it is talking about. Liberals believe you can walk into the grocery store and walk out with a machine gun and a bag of chips and soda. They love to make the argument ‘it is easier to get a gun than to…’ and then go on to cite provably false examples.

Unfortunately the Left and the Right are arguing two separate issues. While the Right is interested in defending a core right from the progressive tendency to destroy the house to kill a spider, the Left is fixated on their emotions and illusion of safety. It does not matter how many statistics we debunk, how much reasoning we provide, how strongly we advocate for rights or how many of their lies we openly correct, the Left believes we shouldn’t own guns.

https://medium.com/@chadfelixg/why-the-left-hates-guns-7ece86605e7

 

[richard_daily]

Unfortunately the Left and the Right are arguing two separate issues. While the Right is interested in defending a core right from the progressive tendency to destroy the house to kill a spider, the Left is fixated on their emotions and illusion of safety. It does not matter how many statistics we debunk, how much reasoning we provide, how strongly we advocate for rights or how many of their lies we openly correct, the Left believes we shouldn’t own guns.

Tell that to the illegal Jewish settlers who are bulldozing houses Palestine.

 

[Pacifica112]

https://medium.com/@chadfelixg/why-the-left-hates-guns-7ece86605e7

Sounds pretty accurate to me.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

"The Right generally view laws as useful tools in organizing society, but are easily manipulated through proper channels when necessary. The Left views law as a moral guidebook detailing what is right and what is wrong and generally defer to the law as an ultimate authority"

LOL - what a crock of shit!

What is the "useful tools in organizing society" argument for letting corporations tell women if they can have birth control? Of letting a clerk in KY not sign marriage certificates for a gay marriage? Of dictating to a woman what she can do with her body during a pregnancy? Of the 50 shades of DOMA and the "Religious Freedom" acts being passed all over the red states in this country? of having the State Supreme Court in AL sponsor the Ten Commandments as a sign of God's law over the law of man?

The list of Christian-sharia laws could be endless. Your post is a fail even by your posting standards.

At least I got a laugh.

 

[Pacifica112]

BoyNextDoor, what corporations are these? Is it a condition of employment that they can't be on birth control, or something of that sort?

Genuine question, as I've never heard of such a thing

 

[BoyNextDoor]

BoyNextDoor, what corporations are these? Is it a condition of employment that they can't be on birth control, or something of that sort?

Genuine question, as I've never heard of such a thing

Hobby Lobby won the case (Burdell v Hobby Lobby) that opened the door for corporations to express their religion preferences by preventing healthcare offered to employees from offering birthcontrol.

Trump has since opened the door even wider by allowing the same expression to a wider range of businesses who just profess a "moral objection" to birth control.

 

[Boxlicker101]

https://medium.com/@chadfelixg/why-the-left-hates-guns-7ece86605e7

This is generally true, except that when the victims are police, some leftist groups will applaud that.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-08...ice-workshop-that-teaches-murder-of-cops.html

 

[RedAllan]

Guess I'm not as left has I thought, I actually like guns.

 

[BotanyBoy]

LOL - what a crock of shit!

Indeed.

What is the "useful tools in organizing society" argument for letting corporations tell women if they can have birth control?

Corporations don't get to tell women if they can have birth control.

They don't have that authority anywhere in this country.

You're insane.

Of letting a clerk in KY not sign marriage certificates for a gay marriage?

^ no problem with religious shamming on the job....as long as it's not Christians, fuck them.

 

[Pacifica112]

Hobby Lobby won the case (Burdell v Hobby Lobby) that opened the door for corporations to express their religion preferences by preventing healthcare offered to employees from offering birthcontrol.

Trump has since opened the door even wider by allowing the same expression to a wider range of businesses who just profess a "moral objection" to birth control.

That's not "telling women if they can have birth control", that's simply saying that they ( the corporations ) won't PAY for it. Women can still get birth control if they work for these corporations, they just have to pay for it themselves.

While I might not agree with the decision of Hobby Lobby, I sure as hell support their right to NOT have to pay for something that they morally object to.

 

[richard_daily]

That's not "telling women if they can have birth control", that's simply saying that they ( the corporations ) won't PAY for it. Women can still get birth control if they work for these corporations, they just have to pay for it themselves.

While I might not agree with the decision of Hobby Lobby, I sure as hell support their right to NOT have to pay for something that they morally object to.

So if a corporation has a moral objection to paying for your retirement fund, that's valid?

 

[Boxlicker101]

So if a corporation has a moral objection to paying for your retirement fund, that's valid?

Yes, if you choose to work there under those conditions.

 

[about__aveage]

I guess some GB members heads will explode. I'm constantly being called a leftist, progressive, socialist...whatever.
I have two pistols and 4 rifles. And I shoot them.

 

[richard_daily]

Yes, if you choose to work there under those conditions.

Cool. And they have a moral objection to your having paid time off and a weekend.

If you don't understand why corporations have too much power, then you don't know your history.

 

[dicknjane]

Cool. And they have a moral objection to your having paid time off and a weekend.

If you don't understand why corporations have too much power, then you don't know your history.

It's not 1900 anymore there are loads of regulations.

do communists get paid time off? What do they do wait in bread lines?

 

[richard_daily]

It's not 1900 anymore there are loads of regulations.

do communists get paid time off? What do they do wait in bread lines?

And guess who wants to roll back all of those regulations and worker's rights?

The same people who can now bribe the government and pay for elections, legally.

 

[BotanyBoy]

So if a corporation has a moral objection to paying for your retirement fund, that's valid?

Totally, worked for plenty of places that offered no retirement plans.

Cool. And they have a moral objection to your having paid time off and a weekend.

If you don't understand why corporations have too much power, then you don't know your history.

Had those jobs too....those things are negotiated at the time of employment.

I bet if you look out there RIGHT NOW there are a bunch of "Must be willing to work odd or potentially long hours, weekends, holidays and willing to travel" jobs out there.

They usually pay well.


Corporations don't have too much power, CERTAIN corporations do.....there is a big difference between everyone out there trying to make a living and the chosen elite who get allllll those government protections, exemptions and support.

And guess who wants to roll back all of those regulations and worker's rights?

The same people who can now bribe the government and pay for elections, legally.

But they still have to sell the voter on that, and if they do then America gets what it deserves...just like if they go full on Leninist lefty we will suffer that hell only if we allow it.

 

[toeskr]

I guess some GB members heads will explode. I'm constantly being called a leftist, progressive, socialist...whatever.
I have two pistols and 4 rifles. And I shoot them.

Don't shoot your eye out.

 

[Saint Peter]

Guess I'm not as left has I thought, I actually like guns.

Same here.

 

[DeYaKen]

What I can't understand is that the same people who demand the freedom to carry firearms also make demands for the control of the spread of nuclear weapons. Why don't they understand that the same arguments apply.

Everyman has the right to defend himself.
Every country has the right to defend itself.

It isn't guns that kill people it's people that use them who kill people.
Nuclear weapons don't kill people it is the countries that use them (so far only one) who kill people.

The list goes on. In the end, the argument for owning either is the same one. I like holding the power of death in my hand.

 

[about__aveage]

Don't shoot your eye out.

http://www.writeups.org/wp-content/uploads/Norwegian-trolls-Trollhunter-movie-k.jpg

 

[toeskr]

http://www.writeups.org/wp-content/uploads/Norwegian-trolls-Trollhunter-movie-k.jpg

C'mon, don't get all biblical.

A Christmas Story.

 

[Saint Peter]

Is that Nixon?

 

[Wat_Tyler]

I had a poster on here tell me once that I own "too many guns," whateverthefuck that is.


I might not "need: what I own, but it's mine, kinda like my house-n-cars-n-trucks-n-bike, et cetera.


And the gummint collects taxes on most of that stuff anyway. Think it's mine? It is, so long as I pay the taxes . . . .


Which is one reason I own guns. Firearms . . . .

 

[cowslinger64]

In the end, the argument for owning either is the same one. I like holding the power of death in my hand.[/QUOTE]

That should be on an NRA poster.




I've owned guns and hunted. I saw one guy here post that hunting was stupid, which is vette level idiotic. I'm not against guns and never have "hated" them, which is another asinine thing to say.

So put me in the camp that not every idiot in this country should be able to own his own army.. And Imo, guns that shoot a bazillion rounds a minute are unnecessary for the average person to have. Bazookas, tanks, fighter jets... All things that guns should be compared to other than cars, box cutters and other stupid comparisons.