Why Write?

[yossi]

What I've found very odd about this though is how often I get told by my partners that they don't know what to say. This didn't happen originally and still doesn't happen much, but it's been a long suspicion of mine that people don't write much back because they're either embarrassed, caught up in what I wrote, or just flat out don't match my skill level.

Take a break, spend your time with the partner you're currently in a relationship with and have real and/or role play sex with him/her.

 

[ElizabethWest]

Oh dear.

Yes, you have to audition...

Yes, I wasn't looking for RP partners at the time. And still am not. They just seem to have found me. And I will play along if I find them interesting enough. I guess that is a remnant of my early days playing in the AH, where a Saturday night could turn into good fun.

I miss the good ole days... Carson and Rhys could put on quite a show.

 

[Recidiva]

Yes, I wasn't looking for RP partners at the time. And still am not. They just seem to have found me. And I will play along if I find them interesting enough. I guess that is a remnant of my early days playing in the AH, where a Saturday night could turn into good fun.

I miss the good ole days... Carson and Rhys could put on quite a show.

Met my husband (who posts here) years ago in a RP game, back in the days of dungeons and MUDs.

Massively spoiled by the ability to build worlds of our own, build story lines, craft families and legacies. Nothing here compares, so I've been lucky and spoiled and Lit will never compare.

 

[lovetoread]

Take a break, spend your time with the partner you're currently in a relationship with and have real and/or role play sex with him/her.

If he put this kind of work into his real relationship then this wouldnt be a big deal.

 

[ElizabethWest]

Met my husband (who posts here) years ago in a RP game, back in the days of dungeons and MUDs.

Massively spoiled by the ability to build worlds of our own, build story lines, craft families and legacies. Nothing here compares, so I've been lucky and spoiled and Lit will never compare.

Agreed. It's interesting what spoils people. Though modern fantasy, for me, still does not compare to Tolkien.

 

[Disgustipated]

Fuckn' Sad Donkey couldn't even stay away for a week.

 

[Recidiva]

Agreed. It's interesting what spoils people. Though modern fantasy, for me, still does not compare to Tolkien.

Well, that man spent endless years building words and languages for fun, it's going to be rough to compare.

I think he's the best at making sunlit, noble characters and Luthien and Beren are my favorite good guys.

Bad guys though, modern fantasy has made more in depth bad guys...and girls.

If you consider "Hannibal" and "Dexter" as fantasy...

So maybe give me Tolkien and GRRM world building, some Anne McCaffrey rip your heart out characters and Bioware storytelling...with some sympathetically motivated bad guys that are still "Cool motive, still murder..."

Yeah, I don't ask for much, but this is why I write. If I can't read it, I can write it.

 

[ElizabethWest]

Yeah, I don't ask for much, but this is why I write. If I can't read it, I can write it.

That is an excellent attitude! I really should write more. I'm just too lazy.

 

[lovecraft68]

Well, that man spent endless years building words and languages for fun, it's going to be rough to compare.

I think he's the best at making sunlit, noble characters and Luthien and Beren are my favorite good guys.

Bad guys though, modern fantasy has made more in depth bad guys...and girls.

If you consider "Hannibal" and "Dexter" as fantasy...

So maybe give me Tolkien and GRRM world building, some Anne McCaffrey rip your heart out characters and Bioware storytelling...with some sympathetically motivated bad guys that are still "Cool motive, still murder..."

Yeah, I don't ask for much, but this is why I write. If I can't read it, I can write it.

Screw GRRM, Tolkien finished his series.

Martin is going to eat himself to death before that series is done and I think his publisher and HBO aren't going to be far away from legal action. The idiot has missed two deadlines on Songs of Ice and Fire, yet published other books in the meantime no one is reading.

The guy has gotten too carried away with being a celebrity and obviously can't finish what he started. At close to 70 and who knows how many pounds overweight odds are HBO will be making up their own ending to the show.

I wonder if they will be able to capture the same degree of hatred for women Martin has?

 

[Recidiva]

That is an excellent attitude! I really should write more. I'm just too lazy.

I am always motivated to entertain myself!

 

[lovecraft68]

Take a break, spend your time with the partner you're currently in a relationship with and have real and/or role play sex with him/her.

The wife and I role play once a week. We make up characters, sometime build it up through some texts during the week then go to dinner as them. Its a blast, keeps things fun, its like cheating on your spouse with your spouse.

 

[lovecraft68]

I am always motivated to entertain myself!

Is that where the batteries went?

I know, go out an shovel....

 

[Wrong Element]

mmmm... ohhhh... soooo... goooooooood... yesssssss

 

[lovetoread]

mmmm... ohhhh... soooo... goooooooood... yesssssss

Now I know how you won that lovely one.

 

[Recidiva]

Screw GRRM, Tolkien finished his series.

Martin is going to eat himself to death before that series is done and I think his publisher and HBO aren't going to be far away from legal action. The idiot has missed two deadlines on Songs of Ice and Fire, yet published other books in the meantime no one is reading.

The guy has gotten too carried away with being a celebrity and obviously can't finish what he started. At close to 70 and who knows how many pounds overweight odds are HBO will be making up their own ending to the show.

I wonder if they will be able to capture the same degree of hatred for women Martin has?

1 and 3 were his best work, they've devolved since and he's lost the narrative.

Other than the fat shaming and the ageist crap...what the hell?

I would need examples of how GRRM hates women. Seems he pretty much lays waste to all and sundry.

The guy's taught me a lot about first person perspective, I appreciate his contribution, I don't get the hate. Maybe disappointment, yeah, but not hate.

 

[Recidiva]

Is that where the batteries went?

I know, go out an shovel....

Screw batteries. I got something that plugs in.

TWO FEET OF SNOW.

Yesterday?

NONE FEET OF SNOW.

 

[Recidiva]

mmmm... ohhhh... soooo... goooooooood... yesssssss

(moose call)

 

[bronzeage]

...so I think I've reached my breaking point.

After roleplaying for several years with plenty of partners, I think I'm finally exhausted.

Most of the time when I share a fantasy with someone, it involves me writing 2-4 paragraphs just to get a couple lines in response. If I write less, then it takes forever for someone to respond at all assuming someone does.

What I've found very odd about this though is how often I get told by my partners that they don't know what to say. This didn't happen originally and still doesn't happen much, but it's been a long suspicion of mine that people don't write much back because they're either embarrassed, caught up in what I wrote, or just flat out don't match my skill level.

What also nags me is how many people say, "I don't know what they want, but know what I don't want."

This is remarkably childish and makes it a huge pain to find someone compatible. Sometimes, it gets exhausting just trying to find someone, and I figure I'll just go do something else. It's almost like these people are trying to provoke you into practicing a hobby to discourage you from roleplaying so you develop yourself for a real relationship. It's flat out passive-aggressive in failing to understand the value of simply roleplaying to share a fantasy. They put themselves out there, and then pull away.

It's also annoying when people want to roleplay elaborate plots before the scene. Granted roleplaying includes foreplay, yes. Roleplaying isn't cybering. There's some buildup from something else that leads to the moment...

...but we're not talking about writing a romance novel here. Heck, if you want a romance novel, then you're the one who's begging for a deeper relationship, not me...

...and then, you have the ones who confuse "love" with "being in-love". Sometimes, it's nice to sink in to your partner and show that you care about one's future without believing that your futures are tied together. It gives you that little extra beautiful glow to the scene, but I guess some people struggle with distinguishing between the two (which I find extremely bizarre since you should easily understand the difference if you want to verbally roleplay a fantasy in the first place rather than find someone to have an affair with in real life).

The biggest thing of all though is how much more fun it is when you actually go on call with someone.

Even if my partners don't know what to say, it's great to hear them moan, gasp, whimper, and squeal from how I describe playing with them up, down, and all around...

...and of course, hearing someone's voice helps to disspell the possibility of genderfaking.

I'd keep writing if I could reasonably anticipate a luscious experience, but it's just not happening, so whatever.

Besides, I have plenty of scenes saved now. I can just as easily go back and reread the scenes I've already written with people. I don't need to hunt someone down who's just going say, "mmmm... ohhhh... soooo... goooooooood... yesssssss" for the millionth time.

Bitch, bitch, bitch.

What the fuck are you going on about. If everybody could hammer out two or four paragraphs of well written erotic prose, it would hardly be a remarkable thing, now would it?

Writing for the public is a casting a wide net. Chances are good somebody will like it. If they do, you'll probably never know. As a percentage of readers, those who write to the author are winning lottery tickets.

If you are going to write for an audience of one, there's no excuse for complaining about the response. If you don't care what this one person thinks, nothing matters. If you do care, do the research. If they don't show the proper gratitude and response, find out up front.

 

[lovecraft68]

1 and 3 were his best work, they've devolved since and he's lost the narrative.

Other than the fat shaming and the ageist crap...what the hell?

I would need examples of how GRRM hates women. Seems he pretty much lays waste to all and sundry.

The guy's taught me a lot about first person perspective, I appreciate his contribution, I don't get the hate. Maybe disappointment, yeah, but not hate.

Citing his age isn't 'ageist' its fact. At the rate he puts out books there's a chance he never finishes this series because even the book he has missed his last two deadlines on isn't supposed to be the last one, and when you're seventy and obese? You're numbering your own days. If he's happy that way, then good for him, live the way you want to live, but you're not going to be around as long as he could be.

I also have no patience with men who let themselves go. Women have hormonal things and other issues that can affect weight, the average over weight guy is that way due to laziness-and usually the first to call out a woman for being heavy. I'm 47 with a 32 waist and low body fat, want it? Work for it like I do. Don't want it, keep eating and knock a decade off your life.

Sexist? Every allegedly strong female character he has has been sexually abused or hurt in some way. Lannister's slut/shame walk the latest example, Dragon lady forced into a marriage and pretty much raped until she figures out how to appeal to her husband-who turned out to be a decent man justa product of culture, but their sex was shown as rape- Sansa(spelled wrong I am sure) being tormented and beaten by the evil boy king then raped by Ramses

The whore the evil boy king beat near to death, little finger telling stories of how he sold a whore into a life of torture, the red headed girl from the brothel being killed, the imps GF of course fucking dirty old man Lannister because that's the only way women get by in his world

The amazon was almost raped if not for Jamie Lannister getting involved. All his women are ultimately shown as pieces of meat to be used and abused by men at some point.

Want more?

But having said that, it has had one benefit for my personal writing because I envisioned those things when I created my character Abigail in one of my stories here and had her shredding, burning and lopping off bits and pieces of sexist animals. That and the women in my Circle series are-block your ears Lancecastor and his ilk-dominant.

In case you haven't noticed, the hatred of men is motivational to me

 

[ElizabethWest]

GRRM? I didn't even make it through his first book. And I tried, damn it, due to the hype.

And thanks, Lovecraft, for giving me a pass on my waistline. I think.

 

[Recidiva]

Citing his age isn't 'ageist' its fact. At the rate he puts out books there's a chance he never finishes this series because even the book he has missed his last two deadlines on isn't supposed to be the last one, and when you're seventy and obese? You're numbering your own days. If he's happy that way, then good for him, live the way you want to live, but you're not going to be around as long as he could be.

I also have no patience with men who let themselves go. Women have hormonal things and other issues that can affect weight, the average over weight guy is that way due to laziness-and usually the first to call out a woman for being heavy. I'm 47 with a 32 waist and low body fat, want it? Work for it like I do. Don't want it, keep eating and knock a decade off your life.

Sexist? Every allegedly strong female character he has has been sexually abused or hurt in some way. Lannister's slut/shame walk the latest example, Dragon lady forced into a marriage and pretty much raped until she figures out how to appeal to her husband-who turned out to be a decent man justa product of culture, but their sex was shown as rape- Sansa(spelled wrong I am sure) being tormented and beaten by the evil boy king then raped by Ramses

The whore the evil boy king beat near to death, little finger telling stories of how he sold a whore into a life of torture, the red headed girl from the brothel being killed, the imps GF of course fucking dirty old man Lannister because that's the only way women get by in his world

The amazon was almost raped if not for Jamie Lannister getting involved. All his women are ultimately shown as pieces of meat to be used and abused by men at some point.

Want more?

But having said that, it has had one benefit for my personal writing because I envisioned those things when I created my character Abigail in one of my stories here and had her shredding, burning and lopping off bits and pieces of sexist animals. That and the women in my Circle series are-block your ears Lancecastor and his ilk-dominant.

In case you haven't noticed, the hatred of men is motivational to me

I definitely do not want more.

There's hatred all right.

Consider that many women are in fact sexually abused and that statistically portraying them that way is not sexist, it's research.

Although I'm fine with girl power and Buffy whatever, I don't actually hate men. I don't see the need to think that more violence and alienation is the solution. I don't see it as particularly empowering to see women in traditionally male roles in order to make them more 'sympathetic' - which for me it isn't. Which is why I enjoy GRRM's portrayal of women in different situations with different personalities and different motivations. That's helpful.

But maybe that's because I'm a girl and I have that hormonal thing.

...what the actual fuck?

 

[FirmYetGentle]

Yeah, but you can't take it personally that people like what they like. If you've roleplayed enough, that's a constant.

If you're burned out, yeah, I get that, take a break. Don't put more in than you can get out.

It's more complicated than that to be fair.

You don't know how much you can get out. It's a roll of the dice.

You also don't know when you want to put in. Libido comes and goes.

I mean I could go look at porn or read an erotic story, but it doesn't compare. It just provides relief without excitement... kind of like going to the bathroom.

 

[FirmYetGentle]

Take a break, spend your time with the partner you're currently in a relationship with and have real and/or role play sex with him/her.

My significant other has certain tastes. I find roleplaying partners to entertain other ones. She doesn't like to roleplay everything.

 

[Que]

I have been known to abandon RP partners because they were boring and unimaginative. Or their grammar was even worse than mine.

'tain't neither!