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Will Trump Suspend Habeas Corpus For Illegals?

icanhelp1 said:
CECOT is not a concentration camp. The other issue is prior to March Maduro refused to take his gang members.

And yet Trump did it under the same conditions as Biden. The democrats wanted open borders. If you can’t control entry no amount of judges is going to solve anything. The blame is squarely on Biden and his puppeteers . Obama had the common sense to deport millions.
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Blinders are keeping you from focusing on what is required to address the deportation matters. You have no solution here, just political partisan rhetoric.

I think it's fair to acknowledge that our immigration system has been under strain for years and that both parties have contributed to the gridlock. You're right to point out that we need better control and processing at the border—but we also need to be honest about what's actually happened and what’s possible.

For one, the figure of 30 million crossing the border isn’t supported by any official data. The actual numbers are indeed high, but not nearly as high as that. And not all who arrive are staying—many are turned away, deported, or returned under existing policies.

Secondly, the attribution by Trump that millions of them are criminals, rapists, and insane people that countries dumped into the US is blatantly false. Crime stats do not support any of this nonsensical, propaganda–fake Trump's news. Trump lies, more often than not.

The idea of detaining everyone until trial sounds straightforward, but in practice, it would require a substantial expansion of resources, including detention centers, legal staff, and immigration judges. Biden did try to address this with a bipartisan border deal that included increased enforcement and faster processing—but many Republicans, under pressure from Trump, rejected it. Trump owns the failed parts of the non-funding of judges and facilities–full stop.

It’s also worth remembering that Trump had four years with a Republican majority for much of that time. Despite Trump's tough rhetoric, the system remained overwhelmed, and no major immigration reform passed. The problems didn’t start with Biden, and they won’t be solved by slogans alone. Your bleating about Biden is unfounded, much like Trump's rants without factual support. Under Biden, more were deported than under Trump. context matters

Obama, for all his flaws, tried to balance enforcement with efforts at comprehensive reform. The issue isn’t about one party wanting “open borders”—it’s about how we manage a humanitarian and legal challenge that has outpaced an outdated system.

Real solutions will require serious bipartisan cooperation. Blaming one side while ignoring the broader dysfunction just keeps us stuck in the same place. Your harping like a sea lion isn't getting any traction here.
 
dmallord said:
Blinders are keeping you from focusing on what is required to address the deportation matters. You have no solution here, just political partisan rhetoric.
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Republicans passed I believe was HR-1, it was an excellent bill and that reprobate Schumer wouldn’t bring it up for debate. Remember, it was the Republican house that first attempted to deal with immigration.
dmallord said:
I think it's fair to acknowledge that our immigration system has been under strain for years and that both parties have contributed to the gridlock. You're right to point out that we need better control and processing at the border—but we also need to be honest about what's actually happened and what’s possible.
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Biden undid all of Trump’s policies, policies that were working to stem the hoards.
dmallord said:
For one, the figure of 30 million crossing the border isn’t supported by any official data. The actual numbers are indeed high, but not nearly as high as that. And not all who arrive are staying—many are turned away, deported, or returned under existing policies.
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Who cares, the numbers are staggering, didn’t need to happen, didn’t need to lie to the American people that our borders were secure.
dmallord said:
Secondly, the attribution by Trump that millions of them are criminals, rapists, and insane people that countries dumped into the US is blatantly false. Crime stats do not support any of this nonsensical, propaganda–fake Trump's news. Trump lies, more often than not.
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Don’t know the exact terminology he used but make no mistake, thousands upon thousands are amongst the American population reeking havoc.
dmallord said:
The idea of detaining everyone until trial sounds straightforward, but in practice, it would require a substantial expansion of resources, including detention centers, legal staff, and immigration judges. Biden did try to address this with a bipartisan border deal that included increased enforcement and faster processing—but many Republicans, under pressure from Trump, rejected it. Trump owns the failed parts of the non-funding of judges and facilities–full stop.
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Biden had an out, it’s called remain in Mexico.
dmallord said:
It’s also worth remembering that Trump had four years with a Republican majority for much of that time. Despite Trump's tough rhetoric, the system remained overwhelmed, and no major immigration reform passed. The problems didn’t start with Biden, and they won’t be solved by slogans alone. Your bleating about Biden is unfounded, much like Trump's rants without factual support. Under Biden, more were deported than under Trump. context matters
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It wasn’t overwhelmed. Democrats like Pelosi and Schumer fought him on every funding request. Revisionist history. No one said it started with Biden, but Biden exacerbated the problem. Trump lost the house in 2019. Ryan was the worst republican speaker in my years watching politics.
dmallord said:
Obama, for all his flaws, tried to balance enforcement with efforts at comprehensive reform. The issue isn’t about one party wanting “open borders”—it’s about how we manage a humanitarian and legal challenge that has outpaced an outdated system.
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Obama actually did his job.
dmallord said:
Real solutions will require serious bipartisan cooperation. Blaming one side while ignoring the broader dysfunction just keeps us stuck in the same place. Your harping like a sea lion isn't getting any traction here.
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One remedy, stop child birth citizenship. It’s a magnet. Stop providing taxpayer benefits for illegals.
 
 
Rightguide said:
May 12, 2025

Will Trump Suspend Habeas Corpus for Illegals?​

By Paul Dowling

Will Americans soon witness President Trump’s issuance of an executive order suspending habeas corpus for criminal aliens and American enemies who have participated in an invasion against the United States, and who have chosen to remain in our country against the rule of law?

The writ of habeas corpus goes back to 500 B.C. and is a legal action which allows a prisoner to challenge the authority of the jailer to continue holding him. The legal term habeas corpus literally means “you should have the body” in Latin. This legal privilege allows incarcerated citizens to seek relief from unlawful confinement as outlined in the Suspension Clause of the U.S. Constitution: “The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.”

The privilege of the writ of Habeas Corpus has been suspended four times: in areas that were in rebellion during the American Civil War; in eleven South Carolina counties that were under threat by the Ku Klux Klan during Reconstruction; in two provinces of the Philippines during an insurrection in 1905 when the Philippines were a U.S. territory; and in Hawaii subsequent to the bombing of Pearl Harbor by the Empire of Japan.

In suspending the writ, Trump would be following in the footsteps of Abe Lincoln, who suspended habeas corpus as a war power to protect the Union when the public safety required it. And today’s criminal interference by judges -- who seek to prevent arrests and deportations of criminally-present terrorists, murderers, sex-traffickers, and rapists -- requires that Trump consider suspending the writ for those enemy aliens to whom lawless judges are giving aid and comfort. This would involve a proper invocation of the Alien Enemies Act, declaring an unlawful invasion of our country (as facilitated by a treasonous Biden Administration) and empowering the Department of Defense to make arrests of the invaders.

Much more here: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2025/05/will_trump_suspend_habeas_corpus_for_illegals.html

Criminal Federal District Court Judges acting unconstitutionally in directing the Article II powers of the elected President could be a justification in the defense of the nation against this Biden-directed foreign invasion.
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if you want 100,000,000 more residents in the USA why do you care about Ukraines or Gaza s borders.
 
Politruk said:
It would not be invasion if the entire population of Mexico snuck across the border.
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We started blowing up cartel operations in mexico.So if there's a large group that wants to come over the border illegally, let's just allow the national guard to train and start wasting away.These illegals
 
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