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Lavender,
Dont get me wrong hon,
Im not after some government intervention where as per say big brother is watching us ..which I already think he is doing anyway..well to the people they might suspect of things.
But there are some proper nutters who may use the internet to meet up with someone who is naive..and well god knows what might happen.
The thing Im getting at is that there should be laws which are applicable to modern day society which also relate to the internet.
Like using other peoples pictures should be classed as some kind of fraud to try and encourage people to use their own real pictures. That way anyone who does use someone elses pics has done for bad reasons or fraudulent reasons.
The net does represent some freedom, but if I was to post the details of this guy and his addy etc I'll put money on it that it gets deleted.......
fact is the net isnt as free as you think it is and the isp providers are liable for slander and other things like that! Therefore I dont think it would make much difference in introducing new laws to prevent nasty people using the net for nasty horrible reasons especially to abuse people etc etc
U surely cant be advocating what this guy did???
By the way by the time I knew something wasn't right about the whole setup I made alternate arrangements and hooked up with other friends in the USA but in the same state. This guy still went out of his way to meet me! So despite me booking the trip etc, I had a great time and met lots of wonderful people...
I just believe that I touched on something..which goes a lot deeper and like I said there's more to this than meets the eye.
I dont believe he's gay either.
This guy is a persistent offender, his whole profile seems to be a guy with either has a personality disorder or someone who gets off on abusing people and manipulating them to the point where he entices them to meet.
He used the old sob story line on me...ie ex husband who used to beat her up..single parent with young child..etc etc
Who was I to question it??? I was naive...admittedly so! but caring at the same time and all I saw was a girl who was crying out to meet someone who would accept her for who she was and would have no problem with her having a kid and being a mom etc.
He took advantage of that fact and got a buzz out of it.
Just imagine this though, miagine if the plane id been on crashed on the way to the usa or back etc or something had happened to me during my visit. The main reason I was there was because of this person. They didnt force me to do it, but they very much encouraged me..I just wasnt the type of person to turn my back on someone ya see.... what a stupid idiot i turned about to be!!!
Dont get me wrong hon,
Im not after some government intervention where as per say big brother is watching us ..which I already think he is doing anyway..well to the people they might suspect of things.
But there are some proper nutters who may use the internet to meet up with someone who is naive..and well god knows what might happen.
The thing Im getting at is that there should be laws which are applicable to modern day society which also relate to the internet.
Like using other peoples pictures should be classed as some kind of fraud to try and encourage people to use their own real pictures. That way anyone who does use someone elses pics has done for bad reasons or fraudulent reasons.
The net does represent some freedom, but if I was to post the details of this guy and his addy etc I'll put money on it that it gets deleted.......
fact is the net isnt as free as you think it is and the isp providers are liable for slander and other things like that! Therefore I dont think it would make much difference in introducing new laws to prevent nasty people using the net for nasty horrible reasons especially to abuse people etc etc
U surely cant be advocating what this guy did???
By the way by the time I knew something wasn't right about the whole setup I made alternate arrangements and hooked up with other friends in the USA but in the same state. This guy still went out of his way to meet me! So despite me booking the trip etc, I had a great time and met lots of wonderful people...
I just believe that I touched on something..which goes a lot deeper and like I said there's more to this than meets the eye.
I dont believe he's gay either.
This guy is a persistent offender, his whole profile seems to be a guy with either has a personality disorder or someone who gets off on abusing people and manipulating them to the point where he entices them to meet.
He used the old sob story line on me...ie ex husband who used to beat her up..single parent with young child..etc etc
Who was I to question it??? I was naive...admittedly so! but caring at the same time and all I saw was a girl who was crying out to meet someone who would accept her for who she was and would have no problem with her having a kid and being a mom etc.
He took advantage of that fact and got a buzz out of it.
Just imagine this though, miagine if the plane id been on crashed on the way to the usa or back etc or something had happened to me during my visit. The main reason I was there was because of this person. They didnt force me to do it, but they very much encouraged me..I just wasnt the type of person to turn my back on someone ya see.... what a stupid idiot i turned about to be!!!
You made a mistake just learn from it and go on. I think you did the best thing possible by telling people your experience and now it's time to let it go. I am sorry this happened to you. You could always get web cam and then see the person with whom you are speaking. It probably costs as much as a ticket to another country did and would save you a lot of heartache.
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ok I agree with lavy in the above matter..
I am tired of goverments..... if they took charge of the net.... we wouldn't be able to do anything that was remotely entertaining... not to mention they'd raise prices... charge you for every little thing you do... monitor its use...... and probably use it to gain information on everyone in the united states to use against you if they just happened to need it.
and the post office would then charge us per email.
I am tired of goverments..... if they took charge of the net.... we wouldn't be able to do anything that was remotely entertaining... not to mention they'd raise prices... charge you for every little thing you do... monitor its use...... and probably use it to gain information on everyone in the united states to use against you if they just happened to need it.
and the post office would then charge us per email.
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I must admit...that during that whole situation... I kept telling him that something was fishy..... and I was the one who happened to have a good friend who knew the 'shelly' person. and who identified the pics and that the guy in one of the pictures was 'the guy' and that he had no sister.
maybe I have such a trust issue? lol I don't know... but either way it was one seriously fucked up situation...... I got the sad messages and the emails from Mind C. and it was a horrible thing for anyone to go thru... and I have to agree on a point that if something isn't done... this guy will do it again... and again... and again.
There are some things that I don't agree with Mind C. on and he knows the parts that I don't like.
But I wouldn't want anyone using pics of a child and posting them and pictures of me all over the net. And that was what he was doing...... plus using this girls information... such as her age... where she lived... EVERYTHING and posting it for others to see on public profiles...
But I think SHE needs to be the one to press charges... Mind C. can only alert the police to this situation.
maybe I have such a trust issue? lol I don't know... but either way it was one seriously fucked up situation...... I got the sad messages and the emails from Mind C. and it was a horrible thing for anyone to go thru... and I have to agree on a point that if something isn't done... this guy will do it again... and again... and again.
There are some things that I don't agree with Mind C. on and he knows the parts that I don't like.
But I wouldn't want anyone using pics of a child and posting them and pictures of me all over the net. And that was what he was doing...... plus using this girls information... such as her age... where she lived... EVERYTHING and posting it for others to see on public profiles...
But I think SHE needs to be the one to press charges... Mind C. can only alert the police to this situation.
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I think too many people adpt this "just let it go" attitude and well when this guy ends up abusing his kids or someones kids or something, how will you feel then????
That's the situation and the fact is he used pics of a baby girl who's mother leaves her daughter with in his mothers capable hands to babysit her as far as I know!
I've even confronted this guy's mom about it and she won't hear me out whatsoever. For one thing I wanted her to know what her son was getting upto on the net and she just dismissed it.
But if that were my kid, whose pics were being used on the net in deceitful ways, I dont think I could leave my children with such an irresponsible family!
As for hacking in to the one email account. It wasn't exactly hard, and seeing as everyone takes the old "let it go" attitude I felt dtermined to look into this guy in detail. And well the email account just shows what he was getting upto........
For instance there's one guy who sent him an email with a picture of his neice or something saying "you've seen mine" now let me see yours which is presumably himasking to see "her" child...and the thing is this was in 1998! So imagine whose else's childs pics and identities he's been using!
Jaded, is very correct..the whole situation was fishy in those months before I went, and the reason I contacted people in that area was to check this so called "girl" out and make sure she was genuine but no one ever could say she wasn't..therefore i was in a difficult situation without making the "girl" think i didnt trust her!
If only id found out of Jaded and her friend sooner rather than later!!!
Yep, the girl's whose pics he used should be the ones to go to the police thats for certain!
And I wish someone would encourage them to do so cos at this moment in time I am fighting this battle on my own when it involves so many people who were indirectly involved in it!
By the way, ermmmmmmmm on the note about govt's etc taking control of the net ..they already have done..didnt you know???
And as far as them knowing what u do online, they do know!
There are things called cookies which store information about websites you visit and how many times etc. There is software which is in your comps which relays this information back!
And if people wanna know what youve been doing ..its so easy because every isp or website is logged and all the ip addys are logged so if they wanted to they could find out when you logged on and what your activities were, they can even tell what pics were downloaded, what pages u visited...virtually everything really!
So whether you like it or not ..we already are governed... all I would like to see is laws that are introduced to make certain things such as fraud on the net and deceit etc etc a criminal offence and for people to be held accountable for what they do!
It needs to be done otherwise these kind of incidents would just go on and on and eventually people would lose trust in the net...because it is surely meant to a nice place to be at and full of nice people...not nasty people out to screw people surely??
That's the situation and the fact is he used pics of a baby girl who's mother leaves her daughter with in his mothers capable hands to babysit her as far as I know!
I've even confronted this guy's mom about it and she won't hear me out whatsoever. For one thing I wanted her to know what her son was getting upto on the net and she just dismissed it.
But if that were my kid, whose pics were being used on the net in deceitful ways, I dont think I could leave my children with such an irresponsible family!
As for hacking in to the one email account. It wasn't exactly hard, and seeing as everyone takes the old "let it go" attitude I felt dtermined to look into this guy in detail. And well the email account just shows what he was getting upto........
For instance there's one guy who sent him an email with a picture of his neice or something saying "you've seen mine" now let me see yours which is presumably himasking to see "her" child...and the thing is this was in 1998! So imagine whose else's childs pics and identities he's been using!
Jaded, is very correct..the whole situation was fishy in those months before I went, and the reason I contacted people in that area was to check this so called "girl" out and make sure she was genuine but no one ever could say she wasn't..therefore i was in a difficult situation without making the "girl" think i didnt trust her!
If only id found out of Jaded and her friend sooner rather than later!!!
Yep, the girl's whose pics he used should be the ones to go to the police thats for certain!
And I wish someone would encourage them to do so cos at this moment in time I am fighting this battle on my own when it involves so many people who were indirectly involved in it!
By the way, ermmmmmmmm on the note about govt's etc taking control of the net ..they already have done..didnt you know???
And as far as them knowing what u do online, they do know!
There are things called cookies which store information about websites you visit and how many times etc. There is software which is in your comps which relays this information back!
And if people wanna know what youve been doing ..its so easy because every isp or website is logged and all the ip addys are logged so if they wanted to they could find out when you logged on and what your activities were, they can even tell what pics were downloaded, what pages u visited...virtually everything really!
So whether you like it or not ..we already are governed... all I would like to see is laws that are introduced to make certain things such as fraud on the net and deceit etc etc a criminal offence and for people to be held accountable for what they do!
It needs to be done otherwise these kind of incidents would just go on and on and eventually people would lose trust in the net...because it is surely meant to a nice place to be at and full of nice people...not nasty people out to screw people surely??
I thought this was about feelings. I am sorry you got hurt, the legality doesn't interest me. I'm out of it if it's a legal debate. Where's Todd? Before I go though, for the record, "monitoring" the net would be like "monitoring" mail, a total invasion of privacy.
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I would probably beat him to death..... I've given up on internet relationships... They dont seem to work. Its to easy to read into something thats not really there. A person can sound stable and responsible online, but in person they might not be. Might as well go pick up somebody at a bar, you'll probably know more about them just from meeting them, then anyone that can lie to you all they want online.
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lol yeh!!!!!
Well I'm sure some internet relationships work!!! And then again some don't!! I guess it's really down to luck...and I was very unlucky to have been messaged by this person in a Yahoo chat room at a time when I'd just split with my ex and was feeling all down in the dumps and depressed and this person seemed to give me a lift..maybe it was the pics that did or the comforting words....to feel wanted and needed in some kind of way....
Yeh I definitely think it's better to meet people in person cos you can make a judgment based on what u see then..which is sometimes a good thing!
Hey does anyone think I should be daring ebough to start publishing his name on the net (the guy that did this ...)???
Well I'm sure some internet relationships work!!! And then again some don't!! I guess it's really down to luck...and I was very unlucky to have been messaged by this person in a Yahoo chat room at a time when I'd just split with my ex and was feeling all down in the dumps and depressed and this person seemed to give me a lift..maybe it was the pics that did or the comforting words....to feel wanted and needed in some kind of way....
Yeh I definitely think it's better to meet people in person cos you can make a judgment based on what u see then..which is sometimes a good thing!
Hey does anyone think I should be daring ebough to start publishing his name on the net (the guy that did this ...)???
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ok here's where I get daring.....
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Brat?
You say you tried to press charges? Was the information posted here?
People who give out personal information about themselves and complain when it is used against them make me laugh. You are the ones that gave the info. Do you have people sign a contract saying they won't divulge anything?
Did this person publish your name/address/telephone number? Even then, I highly doubt that you could press charges since you willingly shared the information.
Of course, if you lied about it and then said everything was okay, I guess that gets you off the hook.
You say you tried to press charges? Was the information posted here?
People who give out personal information about themselves and complain when it is used against them make me laugh. You are the ones that gave the info. Do you have people sign a contract saying they won't divulge anything?
Did this person publish your name/address/telephone number? Even then, I highly doubt that you could press charges since you willingly shared the information.
Of course, if you lied about it and then said everything was okay, I guess that gets you off the hook.
With all due respect I believe you are responsible for your own actions or lack of action in this matter. I have a hard time believing that you flew to another country without even talking on the phone to this person. The man was a shit for using the photos and stringing you along. However once you reported it to the police and the other parties opted not to press further it is not your decision any longer. You need to examine yourself and why you were so willing to ignore the obvious irregularites in the information you were given. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water!!!
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UNREGISTERED...firstly read the damn messages properly before you get your knickers in a twist and no no information was posted here or used..nothing of mine anyway......
i cant even be arsed explaining it anymore cos it seems like theres too many people on this planet that really dont give a shit..and well if you carry on like that, next time it happens to you or someone in your own family, and this guy goes and abuses them, you might think differently!
And lazer i spoke on the phone but to the so called "brother"....which I perceived as a mix up...but anyway thats beside the point... At the end of it all I didnt actuaklly goto see this person ..I made alternate arrangements but this person came out to see me whilst i was there and carried their deceit on...and it was because of this that I did a whole lot of digging and found out that this guy has serious problems and has been doing lots of this kinda thing to people for the past 3 years and more and it mainly involved using little kids pics and girls pcitures that he went to school with.
I just think they should know...and not all of them do... I dont know how to contact them and it shouldnt be up to me to do it! Thats true. The police dont know yet... It should be upto you Americans to do it! Not me! I dont even live there so why should i worry about kids in that country when its not on my own door step...but i do... i do care....
u really are dense some of you sorry, have a heart and help forgods sake instead of critisizing unless thats the kind of stunts you pull yourselves...???
i cant even be arsed explaining it anymore cos it seems like theres too many people on this planet that really dont give a shit..and well if you carry on like that, next time it happens to you or someone in your own family, and this guy goes and abuses them, you might think differently!
And lazer i spoke on the phone but to the so called "brother"....which I perceived as a mix up...but anyway thats beside the point... At the end of it all I didnt actuaklly goto see this person ..I made alternate arrangements but this person came out to see me whilst i was there and carried their deceit on...and it was because of this that I did a whole lot of digging and found out that this guy has serious problems and has been doing lots of this kinda thing to people for the past 3 years and more and it mainly involved using little kids pics and girls pcitures that he went to school with.
I just think they should know...and not all of them do... I dont know how to contact them and it shouldnt be up to me to do it! Thats true. The police dont know yet... It should be upto you Americans to do it! Not me! I dont even live there so why should i worry about kids in that country when its not on my own door step...but i do... i do care....
u really are dense some of you sorry, have a heart and help forgods sake instead of critisizing unless thats the kind of stunts you pull yourselves...???
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Hi all!
I just wanted to remind everyone that posting personal identifying information (i.e. real names, addresses, telephone numbers, information you have learned through personal contact, etc.) is against the board rules. Hope you are all having a great weekend, and take care!
I just wanted to remind everyone that posting personal identifying information (i.e. real names, addresses, telephone numbers, information you have learned through personal contact, etc.) is against the board rules. Hope you are all having a great weekend, and take care!
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Laurel said:
She sounded so happy just then.
And isn't that the nicest way you've ever heard someone called a fucking idiot?
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Angel said:
Pass the gas.
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