Wuhan Flu update.

[Pookie]

And you repeat yourself. Incessantly and insanely despite all attempts to get you the shut the fuck up for once in your life to save yourself from even more public embarrassment over you being you.

Oh, the irony.

 

[Lazaran]

Oh, the irony.

Harpy suffers from a complete lack of personal insight and self awareness.

That results in Harpy publicly humiliating himself on a near daily basis.

It's funny and kinda sad at the same time...... but mostly funny.

*chuckles*

 

[HisArpy]

Oh, the irony.

Why is it that your laundry keeps piling up on you?

 

[HisArpy]

Harpy suffers from a complete lack of personal insight and self awareness.

That results in Harpy publicly humiliating himself on a near daily basis.

It's funny and kinda sad at the same time...... but mostly funny.

*chuckles*

Knock knock...

 

[Pookie]

Why is it that your laundry keeps piling up on you?

Pathetic, as usual.

For the love of God and Lit, look into this - https://www.wattpad.com/176912062-101-comebacks-for-dummies-13

 

[HisArpy]

Pathetic, as usual.

For the love of God and Lit, look into this - https://www.wattpad.com/176912062-101-comebacks-for-dummies-13

Tsk, Tsk...

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Ish threads about Luk are always his best threads.

 

[rockcasbah]

Ish threads about Luk are always his best threads.

Ish says you escaped from the institute.

I say you’re a bat fucker.

 

[Champakian]

LOS ANGELES-- Dr. Eugene Choi, a Los Angeles-based radiologist, said in an interview published Saturday that he came down with COVID-19 despite receiving the vaccine about six months ago.

Fox 11 reported that Choi is in quarantine fighting the virus. The report pointed out that his wife—who was also vaccinated—was also diagnosed with the disease.

"Even when I think about it today, it’s crazy," he told the station. "I can’t believe I have COVID."

https://www.foxnews.com/health/vacc...ovid-19-warns-about-breakthrough-cases-report

 

[ll74]

The Delta variant is just about to make its way through the US.

Get your second dose now before it's too late.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/06/11/new-coronavirus-delta-variant-shows-severe-symptoms-concerns-experts/7639046002/

 

[Rightguide]

The Delta variant is just about to make its way through the US.

Get your second dose now before it's too late.

Nobody gives a shit. The pandemic is over. We're opening the country. Time for Democrats to foreswear their Nazi paraphernalia and get back to normal.

 

[quietlylooking]

https://www.foxnews.com/health/vacc...ovid-19-warns-about-breakthrough-cases-report

It is true that a small percentage of those who are fully vaccinated do get COVID-19, and there are plenty of anecdotal reports of this. After all, more than 43% of the population of the U.S. is now fully vaccinated, and the vaccines are not 100% effective. So with the millions of people vaccinated, and the vaccine efficacy of ~95% or so, you are going to definitely find some people who were vaccinated who get COVID-19.

However, this report demonstrates how effective the vaccines are in a population:

"Among the 4,300 COVID-19 patients admitted to Cleveland Clinic hospitals between Jan. 1 and April 13, 99.75% were not fully vaccinated.

The study also looked at 47,000 Cleveland Clinic employees who had received one shot, two shots, or no shots. Among those, 1,991 tested positive for the coronavirus in recent months. About 99.7% of those who contracted COVID-19 weren’t vaccinated, and .3% were fully vaccinated."

 

[Champakian]

Nobody gives a shit. The pandemic is over. We're opening the country. Time for Democrats to foreswear their Nazi paraphernalia and get back to normal.

I read an article yesterday featuring quotes and tweets from woke culture
stating that they are still wearing masks to prove they are not conservatives.

To them, not wearing a mask is how you identify a Trump voter.


(I.e., if you can identify them, then you can harass them
and discriminate against them for being "anti-Science.")

 

[Champakian]

It is true that a small percentage of those who are fully vaccinated do get COVID-19, and there are plenty of anecdotal reports of this. After all, more than 43% of the population of the U.S. is now fully vaccinated, and the vaccines are not 100% effective. So with the millions of people vaccinated, and the vaccine efficacy of ~95% or so, you are going to definitely find some people who were vaccinated who get COVID-19.

However, this report demonstrates how effective the vaccines are in a population:

"Among the 4,300 COVID-19 patients admitted to Cleveland Clinic hospitals between Jan. 1 and April 13, 99.75% were not fully vaccinated.

The study also looked at 47,000 Cleveland Clinic employees who had received one shot, two shots, or no shots. Among those, 1,991 tested positive for the coronavirus in recent months. About 99.7% of those who contracted COVID-19 weren’t vaccinated, and .3% were fully vaccinated."

That's nice. I was just going back to an older conversation where I asked,
why should I be vaccinated when I already contracted the Wuhan virus
and the answer was, pretty much the same -- you have a small chance
of getting it again, so I wanted to point out that even if you get vaccinated...

 

[oggbashan]

In the UK, the Delta virus is affecting mainly the younger group that haven't been vaccinated yet.

Those who have had both vaccine doses are about 3% only of those who contract it, and because they have been vaccinated, they are less likely to need hospitalisation or have a severe case.


One jab provides about 30% protection. Two jabs between 80 and 90%.

But no vaccine against Covid is 100% effective. Vaccination means less severe illnesses and a much lower risk of death.

 

[quietlylooking]

That's nice. I was just going back to an older conversation where I asked,
why should I be vaccinated when I already contracted the Wuhan virus
and the answer was, pretty much the same -- you have a small chance
of getting it again, so I wanted to point out that even if you get vaccinated...

Actually there is pretty interesting evidence (from a new, not-yet-peer-reviewed study) that suggests that if you had COVID-19 before, you are pretty well protected and might not need the vaccine right now. It's not clear how long this natural immunity lasts, etc. etc., but we don't yet know how long the vaccine protects, either.

 

[Champakian]

Actually there is pretty interesting evidence (from a new, not-yet-peer-reviewed study) that suggests that if you had COVID-19 before, you are pretty well protected and might not need the vaccine right now. It's not clear how long this natural immunity lasts, etc. etc., but we don't yet know how long the vaccine protects, either.

That's actually also part of an older part of the conversation,
How long can we expect the vaccination to be effective?

After all, we have an annual flu vaccination to deal with the mutations
and now we see the Wuhan Flu already mutating...

Some years, the predicted flu variation
is not the one that predominates.

 

[rockcasbah]

That's actually also part of an older part of the conversation,
How long can we expect the vaccination to be effective?

After all, we have an annual flu vaccination to deal with the mutations
and now we see the Wuhan Flu already mutating...

Some years, the predicted flu variation
is not the one that predominates.

We'll likely need an annual booster, but nobody knows for sure yet. Red herring.

I see it as your civic duty to get vaccinated.

It's like being at war; if the government says to keep your lights off during a bombing raid, your personal "freedom" to turn on your lights is superceded by your civic duty to your community and country.

It's just that simple. Stop being unpatriotic and selfish and cowardly...go get vaccinated.

 

[Champakian]

 

[ll74]

Nobody gives a shit. The pandemic is over. We're opening the country. Time for Democrats to foreswear their Nazi paraphernalia and get back to normal.

You don't understand the meaning of the word, pandemic. But then again, you believe this is a Democrat vs Republican thing.

 

[bellisarius]

We'll likely need an annual booster, but nobody knows for sure yet. Red herring.

I see it as your civic duty to get vaccinated.

It's like being at war; if the government says to keep your lights off during a bombing raid, your personal "freedom" to turn on your lights is superceded by your civic duty to your community and country.

It's just that simple. Stop being unpatriotic and selfish and cowardly...go get vaccinated.

Kinda like a per perpetual 'Marital Law' deal huh? Orwell got his date wrong.

 

[rockcasbah]

Kinda like a per perpetual 'Marital Law' deal huh? Orwell got his date wrong.

That's just silly.

Notish Logic would say the same thing about malaria, polio, chicken pox, tuberculosis...were they all totalitarian power grabs, too?

Of course not.

People who think personal freedom trumps the common good are unpatriotic.

 

[bellisarius]

Equating vaccination with 'patriotism' is a dangerous road to go down. It opens the door to far more dangerous equivalents.

My train of thought is as follows;

You get the vaccination or not. If you choose not to then it is likely that you will get the disease. If you contract the disease then you will either recover, natural immunity, or you will die, no longer a public health hazard.

I've been vaccinated for damn near everything including some shit that most folks don't know there are vaccines for, consequently I'm far from being an 'anti-vaxxer.' But I don't have any negative opinion of the 'anti-vaxxer's'. They can engage in their risky behavior without any shaming on my part. However if they do contract the disease they'd best not look to me for any sympathy.

 

[ll74]

Equating vaccination with 'patriotism' is a dangerous road to go down. It opens the door to far more dangerous equivalents.

My train of thought is as follows;

You get the vaccination or not. If you choose not to then it is likely that you will get the disease. If you contract the disease then you will either recover, natural immunity, or you will die, no longer a public health hazard.

I've been vaccinated for damn near everything including some shit that most folks don't know there are vaccines for, consequently I'm far from being an 'anti-vaxxer.' But I don't have any negative opinion of the 'anti-vaxxer's'. They can engage in their risky behavior without any shaming on my part. However if they do contract the disease they'd best not look to me for any sympathy.

I just encourage people to take time to understand their own risk. I encourage them to talk to their doctor and for many, I point out that their understanding of their own risk is rarely correct.

I'm so sick of hearing the terms "survival rate" and "death rate*. Those things are both usually just bullshit they read on the web and rarely do people understand that there's no valid risk determination that comes from them.

 

[DWW]

Equating vaccination with 'patriotism' is a dangerous road to go down. It opens the door to far more dangerous equivalents.

My train of thought is as follows;

You get the vaccination or not. If you choose not to then it is likely that you will get the disease. If you contract the disease then you will either recover, natural immunity, or you will die, no longer a public health hazard.

I've been vaccinated for damn near everything including some shit that most folks don't know there are vaccines for, consequently I'm far from being an 'anti-vaxxer.' But I don't have any negative opinion of the 'anti-vaxxer's'. They can engage in their risky behavior without any shaming on my part. However if they do contract the disease they'd best not look to me for any sympathy.

I am generally in agreement here. What we need to stop doing is testing vaccinated people unless they are showing symptoms. If you are vaccinated - you are protected and even if you somehow have the virus your not going to be a spreader to other vaccinated people. If you have symptoms, you might need to stay home a few days just as you would with the flu - for the overwhelming majority of vaccinated people, symptoms won’t be a big deal - even from a variant. For those not vaccinated - I say, it’s their life. They have the option on a lot of things to take advantage of modern technology to make their life longer and easier - it’s their choice. The media and governments need to stop making the choice of the unvaccinated into everyone’s problem via headline grabbing sympathy stories, mandates for everyone to be masked and other policies designed to prolong the control over peoples’ lives. And - employers should be able to mandate a vaccine to work - workers have a choice to stay or go.