You're missing Peter Pan

[Kitty]

In the play, the Wolf was pure sex. I hear they've pretty much erased that.

Well they got the sexiest weird guy in Hollywood who's sexy enough for adults and funny enough for kids. Even if they downplay the real villainness >.< But...I'm not..smelling...an Oscar....for him again lol

 

[marshalt]

Yeah. My favorite princess is Ariel. Do you know why that had to be a 'true love' kiss? Why she couldn't just grab him and kiss him? She asked why humans had such short life spans and was told that, unlike mermaids, they had eternal souls so they had short physical lives. She wants to be immortal, and decides to steal a soul. She's told that humans split their souls when they fall in love and get married, so she tries to trick the prince into falling in love with and marrying her so she can steal his soul. He instead falls in love with a nun, so her sisters tell her to kill him and bath in his blood so she can turn back into a mermaid, because apparently that's a thing that happens. So she goes to kill him, and realizes that she can't. So she instead uses her new empathy to kill herself, because... apparently somebody had to die? For reasons that were never really specified? But because of her empathy she earns the right to turn into sea foam for a couple centuries and try to earn a soul via good deeds. It's never really explained how sea foam can do good deeds, but Disney felt that that story was too dark. For some reason.

You can read it here: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/32572/32572-h/32572-h.htm

Kids stories were once hardcore as fuck

I have read the original of the Little Mermaid and the Snow Queen. If Hans Christian Andersen were alive to see what became of his stories, he'd be rolling around in his grave.

 

[Noor]

Did you NOT see Finding Neverland.
Apparently Peter's "irrepressible youth"

is based off of

the author's connection

to Wendy.
Neverland

and Peter Pan

are about

Wendy.

We like/liked Finding Neverland!

 

[Kitty]

We like/liked Finding Neverland!

We?

And ok yay I cried lol

 

[CandiCame]

You ever wonder if the guy who played Beetleguise hates Depp because he stole Tim Burton from him?

 

[marshalt]

You ever wonder if the guy who played Beetleguise hates Depp because he stole Tim Burton from him?

The guy? You mean Michael Keaton? The guy who was second best Batman ever?

I doubt it. He's been working steadily for the past 20 years and his new movie is supposed to be awesome. He might not be the most famous guy out there, but he's had a pretty damn good career.

 

[Lorilei]

You ever wonder if the guy who played Beetleguise hates Depp because he stole Tim Burton from him?

Michael Keaton? No, I think he's doing ok. When have you heard Oscar buzz about Johnny Depp?

 

[Noor]

We?

And ok yay I cried lol

1/2 of us is in the past tense, still coming to terms with it. I keep trying new ways of looking at it one, eventually I am sure I will settle into something...

I suppose I am being as bad as those Me/him types

 

[CandiCame]

Damn how did everyone else know that name? My knowledge of celebrities is MUCH more limited than I thought it was. I'm gonna go sit in the corner and cry over my ignorance. What's he up for an Oscar for?

 

[Kitty]

The guy? You mean Michael Keaton? The guy who was second best Batman ever?

I doubt it. He's been working steadily for the past 20 years and his new movie is supposed to be awesome. He might not be the most famous guy out there, but he's had a pretty damn good career.

*makes a farting noise (with my mouth of course lol)*

A lot of male actors and probably some female ones as well resent Johnny. But it's great because they're only secret admirers. I love him!!! *squeals*

And what is his race? Come on, take a shot...everyone says the same thing...

 

[Kitty]

Michael Keaton? No, I think he's doing ok. When have you heard Oscar buzz about Johnny Depp?

Um....well his movies, not so much him. I think in his earlier days and then he ran off into the animated wild with Burton lol

 

[CandiCame]

*makes a farting noise (with my mouth of course lol)*

A lot of male actors and probably some female ones as well resent Johnny. But it's great because they're only secret admirers. I love him!!! *squeals*

And what is his race? Come on, take a shot...everyone says the same thing...

Depp's family is from down the road from me. They're super whitebread. If you heard different you've been duped.

 

[Kitty]

Depp's family is from down the road from me. They're super whitebread. If you heard different you've been duped.

Wasn't asking you.

 

[CandiCame]

Wasn't asking you.

Everyone's gonna say white. He's from fucking Owensborough. Whitey McWhitestown. You said everyone says the same thing. So you knew whoever answered was gonna tell you he was a white dude from a redneck culture. Moving to Florida doesn't make you less white. He even looks like a redneck. The bitch goes to interviews in a wifebeater.

 

[marshalt]

*makes a farting noise (with my mouth of course lol)*

A lot of male actors and probably some female ones as well resent Johnny. But it's great because they're only secret admirers. I love him!!! *squeals*

And what is his race? Come on, take a shot...everyone says the same thing...

I am the worst person in the world when it comes to pegging down a person's race. I just sort of assumed he was white.

I've always thought there was a bit of a resemblance between him and Kirk Hammett, the guitar player from Metallica. Hammett's mother was Filipino so I'm going to go with that.

Now off to google again and... No. His mother was Cherokee apparently. Again, I'm really bad at this.

 

[Lorilei]

Damn how did everyone else know that name? My knowledge of celebrities is MUCH more limited than I thought it was. I'm gonna go sit in the corner and cry over my ignorance. What's he up for an Oscar for?

Birdman.

 

[CandiCame]

I am the worst person in the world when it comes to pegging down a person's race. I just sort of assumed he was white.

I've always thought there was a bit of a resemblance between him and Kirk Hammett, the guitar player from Metallica. Hammett's mother was Filipino so I'm going to go with that.

Now off to google again and... No. His mother was Cherokee apparently. Again, I'm really bad at this.

No, she absolutely was not. She applied for tribal citicenship and was turned down. Several times. It's this huge thing within the tribe. He started that shit because he was getting all kinds of bad press over being cast as Tonto and playing it like a racist steriotype. They eventually paid off the tribal council so they'd shut the fuck up and not boycott the movie.

http://newamericamedia.org/2013/06/johnny-depp-the-indian-is-he-or-isnt-he.php

“Disney relies upon the ignorance of the public to allow that ambiguity to exist,” says Hanay Geiogamah, Professor of Theater at UCLA’s School of Theater, Film and Television. Geiogamah (Kiowa/Delaware) was a consultant for Disney’s Pocahontas and served as producer and co-producer for TBS’ The Native Americans: Behind the Legends, Beyond the Myths aired in the 1990s.

Richard Allen, Policy Analyst for the Cherokee Nation in Tahlequah, Oklahoma, agrees. He says that many celebrities have claimed Cherokee heritage—often based upon family stories they’ve heard—but like Depp they never try to verify it. “They all tell me they have high cheekbones,” Allen says.

This is actually really common in Appalachia and even has a name: Cherokee grandmother syndrome.

Depp is full of shit. There's absolutely no reason, outside of Disney publicist bullshittery, to believe he has ANY claim to Native heritage or ANY reason to not be called out on his racist portrayal.

Also, when he was called out for his racist bullshit, he said he would meet with tribal leaders and then stood them up.

" “Disney conveyed that Depp was very concerned about this and just passed the message along. We never really knew the reason why he didn’t do it,” Brouse says."

 

[marshalt]

No, she absolutely was not. She applied for tribal citicenship and was turned down. Several times. It's this huge thing within the tribe. He started that shit because he was getting all kinds of bad press over being cast as Tonto and playing it like a racist steriotype. They eventually paid off the tribal council so they'd shut the fuck up and not boycott the movie.

I didn't get to far into it, I just googled "Johnny Deep race" and it said she was Cherokee."

Like I said, I'm bad at picking out racial traits.

 

[CandiCame]

I didn't get to far into it, I just googled "Johnny Deep race" and it said she was Cherokee."

Like I said, I'm bad at picking out racial traits.

It's this huge deal, tho, to indigenous people. He was really disrespectful at the way he treated- not only the character, but the tribal council who showed concerns, and then tried to say it was ok because his mom was 'part' Cherokee. But she didn't even have the 1/16 that it would take to /register/ the COB application. And if she did, that would make Depp 1/32 or... pretty much nothing. So then he switched to 'maybe Cree' and couldn't prove that either. He was just desperate for the boycott and protests to stop.

 

[CandiCame]

Disney paid off the protesters by offering the money from the $1000 a pop ticket sales of the premier as reparations for all the shit they had to go through with Depp. And you know that you can't take the mouse to court, so they took it.

 

[CandiCame]

And by the way. If you were a Cherokee with full tribal citizenship- YOU STILL DON'T GET TO PORTRAY A NAVAJO STEREOTYPE! It's two completely different cultures. It would still be racist and it would still be cultural approbation.

Edit: And now that I think about it, that's probably what Kitty was trying to accomplish. She wanted to find the one person who he may have actually fooled. But he didn't actually fool anyone.

 

[Noor]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Moons not one is a cherokee...

 

[marshalt]

And by the way. If you were a Cherokee with full tribal citizenship- YOU STILL DON'T GET TO PORTRAY A NAVAJO STEREOTYPE! It's two completely different cultures. It would still be racist and it would still be cultural approbation.

Edit: And now that I think about it, that's probably what Kitty was trying to accomplish. She wanted to find the one person who he may have actually fooled. But he didn't actually fool anyone.

I used to live in an area with a decent sized native population. And you'd meet people who were enrolled, but looked whiter than the driven snow. So I see a little blurb that says Johnny Depp says he's Cherokee or Cree or Sioux or whatever... who am I to say he's not? It doesn't affect my life one way or the other. But if he's claiming that ancestry just to make himself look better, that's not cool.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

I missed Peter Pan. Was it any good? Christopher Walken has become a parody of himself.

 

[pointless]

I used to live in an area with a decent sized native population. And you'd meet people who were enrolled, but looked whiter than the driven snow. So I see a little blurb that says Johnny Depp says he's Cherokee or Cree or Sioux or whatever... who am I to say he's not? It doesn't affect my life one way or the other. But if he's claiming that ancestry just to make himself look better, that's not cool.

he was claiming strictly to take some heat off of himself for playing that shitty role in that shitty movie. he's extremely white.

and those white people are in those tribes because some tribes have very, very low set points to let people in. they kinda have to. if they didn't some wouldn't exist. we did try to wipe them out, after all. and we did it in a lot of different ways including by breeding them out.