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Honestly, if Harris won, it would have just delayed the inevitable. The country is at an unsustainable level of wealth inequality for ordinary democracy to function anymore.

Basically, we could switch to a wealth redistribution system or neo-techno-feudalism.

Guess we’re going to the neo-techno-feudalism route. See y’all in Night City.
 
Yarglenurp said:
Honestly, if Harris won, it would have just delayed the inevitable. The country is at an unsustainable level of wealth inequality for ordinary democracy to function anymore.

Basically, we could switch to a wealth redistribution system or neo-techno-feudalism.

Guess we’re going to the neo-techno-feudalism route. See y’all in Night City.
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Wealth redistribution systems don't work, they always run out of other peoples money to spend. We're literally living that right now....

That's why we don't have an ordinary democracy.

Or we could just try NOT being totally psychotic authoritarians again. Liberalism worked well until we decided to create 200 alphabet agencies to micromanage everyone's lives and prevent any meaningful production or value generation. Unless of course one of the elites controls it, of course of course. THEY somehow always get a "license" from the state to go make a living that the rest of us can't get.
 
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trump will get the Inauguration and Vance will become the President shortly. trump burnt out his mind campaigning for four years.
 
icanhelp1 said:
Apparently millions of republicans, democrats and independent voters alike disagree with you.
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Can’t argue with that on republicans and independents. I doubt significant Dems voted for trump. I hope for the best but fear we’ll get more instability and chaos.
 
LLCox said:
trump will get the Inauguration and Vance will become the President shortly. trump burnt out his mind campaigning for four years.
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Only if the left takes Trump out.

Otherwise even a meh mediocre "America FIRST" effort by Trump is going to become wildly more popular than the last 4 years of "America LAST!" and Vance if he wants will likely become POTUS in 2028 because of that.

ESPECIALLY if the Dems come back with more shaming and insults for anyone who's not actively competing in the USA hater olympics.
 
UltraChad said:
Wealth redistribution systems don't work, they always run out of other peoples money to spend. We're literally living that right now....

That's why we don't have an ordinary democracy.

Or we could just try NOT being totally psychotic authoritarians again. Liberalism worked well until we decided to create 200 alphabet agencies to micromanage everyone's lives and prevent any meaningful production or value generation. Unless of course one of the elites controls it, of course of course. THEY somehow always get a "license" from the state to go make a living that the rest of us can't get.
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No?

Monopolies are a natural outcome of industrialization, and tech has made hyper-monopolies a thing.

The super-billionaires right now can do pretty whatever they want.

Under the dems, there was at least a bit of government to rein them in. Under repubs, it’s basically us all serving at the feet of the corporate masters.
 
Yarglenurp said:
No?

Monopolies are a natural outcome of industrialization, and tech has made hyper-monopolies a thing.

The super-billionaires right now can do pretty whatever they want.

Under the dems, there was at least a bit of government to rein them in. Under repubs, it’s basically us all serving at the feet of the corporate masters.
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No what?

Sure, that doesn't justify the boot on the necks of the 99% that lefties INSIST we need to keep functioning as a society though.

That's because they have the money for it. So what?

No, under the dems the government puts the boot on the neck of the 99%......that's why the billionaire elites love them so much. They write the regulations that SUPPORT the monopolies, that end the gig economy, that end the entrepreneurs ability to go make a living FOR THEMSELVES. And they tax everyone a premium for it.

Under repubs you're free to go make your own living, or be a corporate boot licker....but at least you have the option to do your own thing. It's called LIBERALISM, and the democrats have forgotten that LIBERTY is a key component of LIBERALISM. The totalitarian god like nanny state they want nagging you in every aspect of your life like some HOA Karen from hell?? Isn't liberal....
 
UltraChad said:
No what?

Sure, that doesn't justify the boot on the necks of the 99% that lefties INSIST we need to keep functioning as a society though.

That's because they have the money for it. So what?

No, under the dems the government puts the boot on the neck of the 99%......that's why the billionaire elites love them so much. They write the regulations that SUPPORT the monopolies, that end the gig economy, that end the entrepreneurs ability to go make a living FOR THEMSELVES. And they tax everyone a premium for it.

Under repubs you're free to go make your own living, or be a corporate boot licker....but at least you have the option to do your own thing. It's called LIBERALISM, and the democrats have forgotten that LIBERTY is a key component of LIBERALISM. The totalitarian god like nanny state they want nagging you in every aspect of your life like some HOA Karen from hell?? Isn't liberal....
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None of what you say is true. It’s just emotional nonsense that sounds good until you dig into actual facts.

Doing your own thing sounds great, up until you realize the waters are all polluted, the food you eat is literal trash, and every ounce of your labor goes to feed the coffers of JP Morgan. Then your choices are to be subsistence farmer hoping Dow Chemical doesn’t pollute your farm or a wage slave training AI models to make better sales calls.

You talk as if the US government had power, but it’s long been bought and leased out. At least under the dems, they had to slow the breaks and bleed themselves a bit. Under repubs, they can go full throttle and fuck up anyone who tries to stop them.
 
UltraChad said:
This is right.

I hope I'm wrong but I bet they do what they always do though, shame/blame the demographics they don't like and then play the victim of those evil horrible white males and CHRISTIANS omg so horrible. LOL
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Histrionics.

You're coming from a blame perspective.

Stop
 
Yarglenurp said:
None of what you say is true. It’s just emotional nonsense that sounds good until you dig into actual facts.

Doing your own thing sounds great, up until you realize the waters are all polluted, the food you eat is literal trash, and every ounce of your labor goes to feed the coffers of JP Morgan. Then your choices are to be subsistence farmer hoping Dow Chemical doesn’t pollute your farm or a wage slave training AI models to make better sales calls.

You talk as if the US government had power, but it’s long been bought and leased out. At least under the dems, they had to slow the breaks and bleed themselves a bit. Under repubs, they can go full throttle and fuck up anyone who tries to stop them.
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No it's true because we used to live it LOL

Nobody is talking about public safety regulations. Those are non issue. Those choices (subsistance farmer which is illegal btw thanks to dems, it's really homeless bum or wage slave) are LITERALLY MANUFACTURED BY THE STATE. The totalitarian god state you support is the one that forced you into that corner.....LOL

And considering how polluted and trashy things are under government regulation? This is a terrible argument for government corruption. Been to Oakland lately?? LOL some real PROGRESS down there.

The US government had and has power.....do something to piss it off and see how fast you wind up in prison. No under Dems they are protected and enabled by those elusive permits, licencess and BS that keeps the little guy from having any other option than "wage slave or homeless"
 
ll74 said:
Histrionics.

You're coming from a blame perspective.

Stop
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That's because the democrats ARE TO BLAME....it was their failure. It couldn't have been MORE their election to lose but they got smoked like a cheap cigar. Facts and reality, not histrionics. But as I figured most democrats would be, you're very defensive of the things that are making Democrats lose. So I hope they go right back to demonizing white people, males and Christians for their loss like most of them surly will. I wouldn't want them to win in 28'.
 
UltraChad said:
No it's true because we used to live it LOL

Nobody is talking about public safety regulations. Those are non issue. Those choices (subsistance farmer which is illegal btw thanks to dems, it's really homeless bum or wage slave) are LITERALLY MANUFACTURED BY THE STATE. The totalitarian god state you support is the one that forced you into that corner.....LOL

And considering how polluted and trashy things are under government regulation? This is a terrible argument for government corruption. Been to Oakland lately?? LOL some real PROGRESS down there.

The US government had and has power.....do something to piss it off and see how fast you wind up in prison. No under Dems they are protected and enabled by those elusive permits, licencess and BS that keeps the little guy from having any other option than "wage slave or homeless"
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Uh, red states have those too. They’re just as corrupt and far more restrictive.

But it occurs to me that there’s no point in talking about this. You just need to live through it.
 
UltraChad said:
That's because the democrats ARE TO BLAME....it was their failure. It couldn't have been MORE their election to lose but they got smoked like a cheap cigar. Facts and reality, not histrionics. But as I figured most democrats would be, you're very defensive of the things that are making Democrats lose. So I hope they go right back to demonizing white people, males and Christians for their loss like most of them surly will. I wouldn't want them to win in 28'.
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So you are ok with a blame perspective.

Thanks for confirming.
 
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