🎵 Monthly Song Challenge 🎵

Day 7: A song that's 5+ minutes long


Yes - Marquee Moon, possibly the greatest guitar song ever, but then... get Ricky Wilson of the B-52's, Fred 'Sonic' Smith and Jay Dee Daugherty and do it in ONE TAKE (apparently) and you have... possibly the greatest guitar record ever.

Tom Verlaine - Breakin' In My Heart (AKA Breakin' My Heart - depends on the copy of the record as to what the sleeve says)
 
Couldn’t help noticing some underlying misogyny over the last two day’s prompts. Seems yesterday there was a strong agreement that boy bands should be comprised of males under the age of 18, but without exception (I believe, correct me if I’m wrong) every “Girl Band” was women (mine included). Are there any true “Girl Bands”?

Is it a double standard that aims to protect girls? As a society are we ok taking a group of pubescent boys and sexualizing them as fodder for our pre teen girls to fantasize about, but we draw the line when it comes to girls? We seem to be ok, as a society, with young girls in beauty pageants, but they are being paraded in front of adults, which is beyond creepier.

And does this help establish the idea in our kids that boys accomplish things and girls are just meant to be pretty?
 
Couldn’t help noticing some underlying misogyny over the last two day’s prompts. Seems yesterday there was a strong agreement that boy bands should be comprised of males under the age of 18, but without exception (I believe, correct me if I’m wrong) every “Girl Band” was women (mine included). Are there any true “Girl Bands”?

Is it a double standard that aims to protect girls? As a society are we ok taking a group of pubescent boys and sexualizing them as fodder for our pre teen girls to fantasize about, but we draw the line when it comes to girls? We seem to be ok, as a society, with young girls in beauty pageants, but they are being paraded in front of adults, which is beyond creepier.

And does this help establish the idea in our kids that boys accomplish things and girls are just meant to be pretty?
I haven't had enough coffee for this. But, I appreciate the conversation. I am curious about @morelikeasong 's opinion on the matter.
 
Day 7: A song that’s 5+ minutes long
Cliff Burton's Magnum Opus. An instrumental, it is almost all bass, and shows what can be done by a skilled and creative player. There are videos out there that isolate just the bass, and it is pretty amazing. For example, the opening that sounds sort of like a Hammond organ is two bass lines, one played forward, the other backwards. I miss Cliff, and can only wonder what he would have done had he not been killed at 24. Cliff 'em all.

"Orion," Metallica

 
Vanity is totally unattractive... But so is the opposite in my opinion.

Self love is so important. You gotta love yourself first. Over and over and over... 😈

And I'm always open to compliments.
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Couldn’t help noticing some underlying misogyny over the last two day’s prompts. Seems yesterday there was a strong agreement that boy bands should be comprised of males under the age of 18, but without exception (I believe, correct me if I’m wrong) every “Girl Band” was women (mine included). Are there any true “Girl Bands”?

Is it a double standard that aims to protect girls? As a society are we ok taking a group of pubescent boys and sexualizing them as fodder for our pre teen girls to fantasize about, but we draw the line when it comes to girls? We seem to be ok, as a society, with young girls in beauty pageants, but they are being paraded in front of adults, which is beyond creepier.

And does this help establish the idea in our kids that boys accomplish things and girls are just meant to be pretty?
There is no doubt that the misogyny within the recording industry knows no bounds. I am not sure the "should be comprised of males under the age of 18" really holds up. The big 90s push focused on bands that were young, but definitely young men, and the K-Pop/J-Pop has followed the same playbook. And it is a playbook. "Boy Bands" are usually designed from the ground up, with archetypes marketed to girls and young women. The look, the dancing, the music, the image --all of it is marketing packaged to sell to a specific demographic. And part of that is sexual, but more is romantic, with the marketing focusing on that balance in "slightly sexually dangerous, but mostly nonthreatening" vibe. Less of it is "I want to be your lover" and more focused on "I want to be your man."

Young girls are marketed differently. For one thing, boys in that demographic aren't generally interested in the same things. And don't forget when you had the Boy Band Boom in the 90s we also had Britney Spears in a porno movie "schoolgirl outfit" and Christina in her "Dirty" phase. There was no protection there. Or go back to the Go-Gos. They have very strong opinions about what the record companies and media did to their image, but at the time they didn't have the power to fight it. Look at the infamous Rolling Stone cover, where they were convinced to strip down to their underwear "because it would be fun," with the cover branded "The Go-Gos Put Out!" Which was in no way indicative of their music or style at all. But while there is a huge level of "sex sells," there isn't the same textbook as there is for boy bands.

As for "boys accomplish things and girls are just meant to be pretty," Slater-Kinny, The Slits, The Go-Gos, Bikini Kill, and so many others will always be held at a higher esteem than, say, New Kids on the Block, not as woman but as artists and musicians.

Beauty pageants, especially for kids, are as creepy as all fucking get out, so no arguments there.

Just my thoughts.
 
Day 7 a song that 5+ minutes

I have strong feelings that songs should be under 5 minutes (and movies under 100 but that’s a different argument)

But there are exceptions to all rules.

Oh God, want you on my lips.

And even this has got some self-indulgent filler that could be easily jettisoned.

Kashmir should not be shorter than 5 minutes
 
I have strong feelings that songs should be under 5 minutes (and movies under 100 but that’s a different argument)
This one's for you, Monkey! I couldn't disagree more with your stance 🥰

Day 7: A song that’s 5+ minutes long

The first ever Avantasia song I remember really hearing, and the one that sold me on the band. The Seven Angels is the opening track for their second album and features, as the title gives away, seven different legendary metal singers. People like Rob Rock, Timo Tolkki, André Matos.

It's an epic, in the truest sense of the word, telling two stories in one.
Choirs, symphonies, unconventional composition; it's really the epitome of Metal Opera.
Clocking in at over 14 minutes, this one's for the fans, and all lovers of metal!

Avantasia - The Seven Angels

 
I am not sure the "should be comprised of males under the age of 18" really holds up.
There were comments that “those were men not boys” I used 18 as the accepted age of majority.
"Boy Bands" are usually designed from the ground up, with archetypes marketed to girls and young women. The look, the dancing, the music, the image --all of it is marketing packaged to sell to a specific demographic. And part of that is sexual, but more is romantic, with the marketing focusing on that balance in "slightly sexually dangerous, but mostly nonthreatening" vibe. Less of it is "I want to be your lover" and more focused on "I want to be your man."
Again, these are cherry picked to be boys that can be marketed to young girls.
Young girls are marketed differently. For one thing, boys in that demographic aren't generally interested in the same things.
Boys aren’t interested in girls?
And don't forget when you had the Boy Band Boom in the 90s we also had Britney Spears in a porno movie "schoolgirl outfit" and Christina in her "Dirty" phase. There was no protection there.
See comment above about what boys are interested in.
As for "boys accomplish things and girls are just meant to be pretty," Slater-Kinny, The Slits, The Go-Gos, Bikini Kill, and so many others will always be held at a higher esteem than, say, New Kids on the Block, not as woman but as artists and musicians.
But those bands were never “Girl Bands” the way Backstreet Boys et al were “Boy Bands” and they were never marketed to young, impressionable boys (not that they didn’t get their hands on the albums).
Beauty pageants, especially for kids, are as creepy as all fucking get out, so no arguments there.
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