RosewoodTulip
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Day 7
Meat Loaf - Bat Out Of Hell
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I haven't had enough coffee for this. But, I appreciate the conversation. I am curious about @morelikeasong 's opinion on the matter.Couldn’t help noticing some underlying misogyny over the last two day’s prompts. Seems yesterday there was a strong agreement that boy bands should be comprised of males under the age of 18, but without exception (I believe, correct me if I’m wrong) every “Girl Band” was women (mine included). Are there any true “Girl Bands”?
Is it a double standard that aims to protect girls? As a society are we ok taking a group of pubescent boys and sexualizing them as fodder for our pre teen girls to fantasize about, but we draw the line when it comes to girls? We seem to be ok, as a society, with young girls in beauty pageants, but they are being paraded in front of adults, which is beyond creepier.
And does this help establish the idea in our kids that boys accomplish things and girls are just meant to be pretty?
I do have some thoughts but it’s 6am!!! I’ll be back later.I haven't had enough coffee for this. But, I appreciate the conversation. I am curious about @morelikeasong 's opinion on the matter.
Vanity is totally unattractive... But so is the opposite in my opinion.
Self love is so important. You gotta love yourself first. Over and over and over...
And I'm always open to compliments.
There is no doubt that the misogyny within the recording industry knows no bounds. I am not sure the "should be comprised of males under the age of 18" really holds up. The big 90s push focused on bands that were young, but definitely young men, and the K-Pop/J-Pop has followed the same playbook. And it is a playbook. "Boy Bands" are usually designed from the ground up, with archetypes marketed to girls and young women. The look, the dancing, the music, the image --all of it is marketing packaged to sell to a specific demographic. And part of that is sexual, but more is romantic, with the marketing focusing on that balance in "slightly sexually dangerous, but mostly nonthreatening" vibe. Less of it is "I want to be your lover" and more focused on "I want to be your man."Couldn’t help noticing some underlying misogyny over the last two day’s prompts. Seems yesterday there was a strong agreement that boy bands should be comprised of males under the age of 18, but without exception (I believe, correct me if I’m wrong) every “Girl Band” was women (mine included). Are there any true “Girl Bands”?
Is it a double standard that aims to protect girls? As a society are we ok taking a group of pubescent boys and sexualizing them as fodder for our pre teen girls to fantasize about, but we draw the line when it comes to girls? We seem to be ok, as a society, with young girls in beauty pageants, but they are being paraded in front of adults, which is beyond creepier.
And does this help establish the idea in our kids that boys accomplish things and girls are just meant to be pretty?
Kashmir should not be shorter than 5 minutesDay 7 a song that 5+ minutes
I have strong feelings that songs should be under 5 minutes (and movies under 100 but that’s a different argument)
But there are exceptions to all rules.
Oh God, want you on my lips.
And even this has got some self-indulgent filler that could be easily jettisoned.
This one's for you, Monkey! I couldn't disagree more with your stanceI have strong feelings that songs should be under 5 minutes (and movies under 100 but that’s a different argument)
There were comments that “those were men not boys” I used 18 as the accepted age of majority.I am not sure the "should be comprised of males under the age of 18" really holds up.
Again, these are cherry picked to be boys that can be marketed to young girls."Boy Bands" are usually designed from the ground up, with archetypes marketed to girls and young women. The look, the dancing, the music, the image --all of it is marketing packaged to sell to a specific demographic. And part of that is sexual, but more is romantic, with the marketing focusing on that balance in "slightly sexually dangerous, but mostly nonthreatening" vibe. Less of it is "I want to be your lover" and more focused on "I want to be your man."
Boys aren’t interested in girls?Young girls are marketed differently. For one thing, boys in that demographic aren't generally interested in the same things.
See comment above about what boys are interested in.And don't forget when you had the Boy Band Boom in the 90s we also had Britney Spears in a porno movie "schoolgirl outfit" and Christina in her "Dirty" phase. There was no protection there.
But those bands were never “Girl Bands” the way Backstreet Boys et al were “Boy Bands” and they were never marketed to young, impressionable boys (not that they didn’t get their hands on the albums).As for "boys accomplish things and girls are just meant to be pretty," Slater-Kinny, The Slits, The Go-Gos, Bikini Kill, and so many others will always be held at a higher esteem than, say, New Kids on the Block, not as woman but as artists and musicians.
Beauty pageants, especially for kids, are as creepy as all fucking get out, so no arguments there.