KoPilot
Obscene Epicene
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Well, that might be something worth wondering about, IMO.
Humor is like sex; you laugh at what you laugh at. Humor is also like sex, in that it can be directed towards the unwilling. Sexually, we call that "rape" when it's humor, we call it... I dunno, mockery, or degredation, or whatever. In the grand tradition of Sticks and stones, we believe that words are less offensive than rape, but we all know damn well that words often lead to sticks and stones. I have a scar on my face from a beer can hurled after a word ("faggot," pointed at people I was with). When I hear misogyny expressed, or homophobia, or racism, or religious intolerance-- my alarm bells go off. And you can say that you didn't mean anything by it, but my alarm bells are still ringing. So yeah, in my experience, repeating sexist hateful jokes because you think they are funny... is inconsiderate, at the least.
One of the reasons you laugh at these jokes is because they rely on the funnyness of unexpected juxtaposition. So yeah, turning a woman into a camel or a snowplow or a kicking donkey-- all those things are "funny" in that sense. And turning a woman who trusted some man enough to get naked and let him close enough to do that-- even more so. All those things are wrapped up in every joke, don't kid yourself. What makes jokes funny is the context, all the stuff we know about how people got there, all the way to the punchline.
There is beauty in horror, humor in violence, we are not one-size-fits-all critters. But we are moral critters, we need to make choices. The beauty of flowing blood, or fire on a mountain isn't beautiful enough for me to create that sight too often And what's funny about mean sex is the same thing that's funny in other, less destructive areas, and I can get my jollies elsewhere-- the very same jollies, really.
that's my philosophing for the day
All of those words are true.
I live with a guy who has an extremely straightforward sense of humor. He doesn't care for complexity, or cleverness, or intellectualism (unless it's bullshit about paintings). When we make fun of him and his simplistic style of comedy and the things he likes to laugh at, we've got one golden line that we repeat in a Russian accent: "HE'S WEARING A DRESS! BAHAHAHA!"
Now I'm wondering-- how many other people found that funny?
I'm also currently dealing with a bit of fallout with a friend of my fiance, who thinks creepy rape jokes are some of the funniest words a man could utter, especially to women. I reprimanded him, and reminded him that you never know who you're going to hurt, and how badly you could tear their wounds open again, and hinted at myself and my own unsavory experiences. I hurt his pride, and so he responded indignantly.
Why risk hurting people like that for the sake of a few cheap laughs? You wouldn't willingly tell a rape joke to a rape victim's face, and then laugh at the punchline, would you? No? Then you shouldn't do it period, because you never honestly know when and if you do. It's not the words themselves that are hurtful, but it's the volumes of context behind them that get heard. And if you unwittingly laugh at abuse or assault in front of a friend that was abused or assaulted, then what makes them think that you're a safe person to divulge anything to, if you're so casually belittling what could be one of the most painful moments of their life?
Why risk it?