Am I getting the wrong impression here?

rakastuja said:
Maybe.. personally I find it disturbing when reading for example from news how someone gets beated in public place, screams for help but people just walk away.

Maybe a wife of abusive asshole gets beated when back at home but does it make much difference to her normal situation? Or would it maybe make a difference if everyone would make it their business if someone treats others badly on their property/public places?

I dont promote "dont care others" policy though it and cynism seem to be main religions nowadays.

There's a *significant difference* between someone making a request, albeit in some peoples eyes as wrong, and beating someone.

If I see someone getting beaten in public, I *will* call the police, and possibly intervene myself.
 
Marquis said:
What about the staunchly conservative or religious person who feels a responsibilty to say something about a homosexual couple, or an inter-racial couple?

Well there are society standards to help with these things...

Of course everyone see different things as "right" and "wrong". But what is generally accepted means more than own personal opinion in public places. Before you didnt go kissing same sex partner in public. It was generally seen as wrong bacn then. And now you dont go preaching to homosexuals at public places because homosexuality is generally seen as ok (or more like going to that direction).

Some hundred year ago telling woman go wait in corner would probably be seen as ok, but now its associated with abuse.
 
Marquis said:
What about the staunchly conservative or religious person who feels a responsibilty to say something about a homosexual couple, or an inter-racial couple?

I think in those circumstances they see both parties as making a choice they don't perhaps agree with, whereas if they see a couple where one half is seemingly being abused or mistreated by the other it is more non-consent or an issue of physical harm where one is victim and one perpetrator. :confused:

Catalina :rose:
 
I agree with the above. Inconvenient as it might be for people practising an alternative lifestyle, I think that the world is very cued into domestic abuse, and in my mind, that's not a bad thing. Alot of Dominant/submissive relationships and fantasies truly do involve a very Victorian--or even medieval--dynamic, but the social standards of the world have, thankfully, moved past that. Of course that sort of thing is fine in play! It's fun, and when consenting, it's safe. But people in the vanilla world can't really be expected to be cognizant of that fact.

The difference between a vanilla commenting on a homosexual or interracial relationship and a *perceived* abusive relationship is that the homosexual or interracial relationship isn't inherently damaging. If two men or two women were holding hands and kissing, and someone commented, yeah, that person would be wrong, because no one is in "danger" in that relationship. Unfortunately, (or perhaps fortunately, depending on what you believe) the dynamic of stern domineering male and submissive female is seen as dangerous, to the world at large. Probably because centuries of that sort of thing proved to NOT be fun and safe, but rather hindering and at times deadly for women.

So if the vanilla world doesn't "get it" on first viewing, I think they can definitely be forgiven for acting out of kindness to correct or alleviate what they see as a harmful situation. It's a totally different set of circumstances than a public display of homosexual or interracial relationships. People think those things are morally damaging to society (and they're wrong of course), but they're likely to think that the dominant male/submissive female is physically damaging to the female, which in a lot of non-lifestyle cases, it is.
 
Marquis said:
In response to all the above, I don't expect the vanilla world to be understanding of my relationship, but I hardly think making your sub eat off the floor is comparable to my situation Netz.

She interrupted me.

I put my hand up and she stopped talking immediately.

Hell, you could of just left it at that and still blown minds.
 
rosco rathbone said:
Hell, you could of just left it at that and still blown minds.

Yeah, but when's the last time "leaving it at that" got your dick hard?
 
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