Bad BDSM

[Killishandra]

You never feel kinda sad and turned on at the same time?

Yes I have, when it's in an erotic context. But for whatever reason, these clips do nothing for me sexually.

 

[Marquis]

Yes I have, when it's in an erotic context. But for whatever reason, these clips do nothing for me sexually.

The measured, cruel, playfully, bullying dominance of a male over a female; the feverish, scattered, raw, desperate dominance of one female over another.


They're not exactly porno clips, but we'll have to agree to disagree.

 

[Killishandra]

The measured, cruel, playfully, bullying dominance of a male over a female; the feverish, scattered, raw, desperate dominance of one female over another.


They're not exactly porno clips, but we'll have to agree to disagree.

We're probably still going to agree to disagree, but I'll try to explain myself a bit better anyway.

My perceptions of the first video would have changed if, at the end of the clip, he had dragged her to the ground and raped her. Then, I would have seen a dominant man forcing himself on his female. I probably could have masturbated to it later tonight.

However, all I saw was a man getting screamed at by his wife/girlfriend/lover and him using her for a punching bag. She kept coming at him, and he kept taking hesitant and ineffective punches at her in an attempt to dominate her. He wasn't making much progress, obviously, as she kept screaming at him and freaking out and then throwing things at him in the end. It came off very pathetic in my eyes. A failed attempt at dominance does nothing to my libido.

Find me a clip where he fucks her into submission at the end, and we can agree to agree. LOL

PS: The second clip seemed pretty pathetic for similar reasons. Plus, everyone around them was laughing and urging them on, so I bet whatever they were fighting over was pretty petty to begin with. That just screams "losers!" to me.

 

[canadiancutie]

Your story was definitely BDSM, and not so outrageous that I wouldn't believe it.

I don't really doubt shyslave, but 25 men in 7 days, to me, is by far the most unusual of things posted here. 3-4 different men every day for a week?!

That's porn star quality attitude on sex, which I can't imagine is that common, although sometimes I wonder. Beyond that, I can't see finding that many seperate partners every day for a week quite as easy as all that, and that's not to mention the physical wear and tear! When you're fucking 25 guys, the chances that a couple are going to be big enough to hurt you are pretty good, I think.

In any case, I'm sure there is a reasonable explanation, I just have no idea what it is.

Well, my friend J had sex with 42 girls in a week, videotaped every single time, and won $350 haha. he had to videotape it as proof, and we were watching the tapes, and he didn't lie to any of the girls about why he was doing it (he told them on camera haha), and a lot of the girls were insanely hot....was kinda weird. but yeah, her story is plausible

 

[catalina_francisco]

We're probably still going to agree to disagree, but I'll try to explain myself a bit better anyway.

My perceptions of the first video would have changed if, at the end of the clip, he had dragged her to the ground and raped her. Then, I would have seen a dominant man forcing himself on his female. I probably could have masturbated to it later tonight.

However, all I saw was a man getting screamed at by his wife/girlfriend/lover and him using her for a punching bag. She kept coming at him, and he kept taking hesitant and ineffective punches at her in an attempt to dominate her. He wasn't making much progress, obviously, as she kept screaming at him and freaking out and then throwing things at him in the end. It came off very pathetic in my eyes. A failed attempt at dominance does nothing to my libido.

Find me a clip where he fucks her into submission at the end, and we can agree to agree. LOL

PS: The second clip seemed pretty pathetic for similar reasons. Plus, everyone around them was laughing and urging them on, so I bet whatever they were fighting over was pretty petty to begin with. That just screams "losers!" to me.

LOL, we think alike!! Both had the same reaction with me....people who needed to get a grip and grow up....and as you said, they both portrayed losers well as opposed to dominance. Not on my hot scale.

Catalina

 

[rcuhljr]

Hmm the two clips and the following conversation got me thinking. Marquis do you think it's the struggle for dominance that you find truly arrousing (as you hinted at) or just more of the violence sating part of the sadistic streak?

Either way the younger girls fighting had me mull over the way we use violence in confrontations and my own limited experiences in fighting. Honestly I never got into many fights, but pretty much everytime it descended to physical violence I took the same overall approach, forcing submission. Most fights I see are just just punches being thrown everywhere, until one side can't offer resistance or retreats, I've always been a grappler. I'd quickly gain position until they where incapable of effectively attacking me, and I had control over them through pressure/pain. I'd then ask them something along the lines of if they gave up, or had had enough, and the first few times this will always result in flailing/struggling. As soon as they'd try to fight I'd just increase the pain/pressure on them for a few moments then back off. This continued until they finally cracked, and were rational enough to voice their submission.

I guess I only found victory satisfying when I had the total victory, they hadn't fought till the end, I broke them and forced them to speak, and therefor really accept (or so it seems) their helplessness and inferiority in the situation.

This only probably occured 4 or 5 times that I can think of, since I tend to be fairly non-confrontational, and at the time I definently never conciously aknowledged the domination/submission aspect of it. At least not as anything more then to end the fight.

Well sorry for rambling, the clips just got me thinking and I had never really considered my actions in the D/s light. I think it's also relevent that while I find D/s interesting, my attraction to sado/maso isn't overtly strong since I never saw pain in and of itself interesting(I guess I should specify, I can definently see how some forms of pain like spanking is highly erotic, but others where the sole form of arrousal is pain had less appeal), only as a tool for dominance. This might be why I took the less painful (for my opponents) path to dominance in a fight, I wanted to acheive my goal using what was necissary.

Ah well plenty of stuff for me to think over now.

 

[Killishandra]

Rcuhljr, are you a Dom or a sub? *Been wondering that for awhile, now more so after your last post.*

 

[Killishandra]

LOL, we think alike!! Both had the same reaction with me....people who needed to get a grip and grow up....and as you said, they both portrayed losers well as opposed to dominance. Not on my hot scale.

Catalina

We are of similar mind, then.

For me, the biggest draw of violence is an aspect of control. Since none of the people in these videos showed any control, they hold no appeal for me. *shrug*

 

[Marquis]

When did dominance become this magical spiritual word? It may mean that to us, but the abusive boyfriend who smacks his girl around and ties her to the bed so she can't leave him is being dominant too.

Now, I hope I didn't just invite a lecture on true Dominance vs. superficial dominance, because if you think I need to hear it, then I was right to think this forum couldn't handle a thread like this.


What I'm talking about in this thread, is artery clogging, heart stopping, Kentucky Fried Domination. All the stories about getting fucked really rough and having the best time of your life were sweet, but they really didn't have anything to do with what this thread is about.

I'm talking about BDSM that breaks the rules. I'm talking about sex that is unapologetically evil and gets people hurt. I can't be the only one with these kind of desires, in fact I know I'm not. I think we're either:

A) Truly not that in touch with our inner hungers.

or

B) So fucking obsessed with appearing BDSM Kosher that we lost touch of that part of ourselves that really makes this all hot anyway.



Now, I could break it down further why each clip tickled my sadist bone, but if you don't get it just by looking at it, chances are you aren't going to get it with me explaining it to you.

In any case, I hope this incident draw the distinction of the type of things I'm really looking to hear about in this thread. I know people have fucked up stories that turn them on, so stop being such a bunch of fucking squares and be out with them!!

 

[Marquis]

Well, my friend J had sex with 42 girls in a week, videotaped every single time, and won $350 haha. he had to videotape it as proof, and we were watching the tapes, and he didn't lie to any of the girls about why he was doing it (he told them on camera haha), and a lot of the girls were insanely hot....was kinda weird. but yeah, her story is plausible

That is fucking insane, again, very hard for me to believe. Anyway I could see the tapes?

 

[Marquis]

Hmm the two clips and the following conversation got me thinking. Marquis do you think it's the struggle for dominance that you find truly arrousing (as you hinted at) or just more of the violence sating part of the sadistic streak?

Both!

Both of those clips fed both my dominant and sadistic sides. I enjoyed watching the man assert his dominance by playfully smacking his woman in the face everytime she tried to get in a rant of her bitching. If those two are a couple, which I would suspect, I would bet my FUCKING LIFE that he fucks her nice and rough and she eats it up like ice cream.

As for the second clip, there is a frustrated desperation to the way women often fight that I find inherently sexual. Other than that, while there was no question who was the physical superior with the man and woman, here, each woman was trying to get on top. I imagine the eventual winner got some of those alpha endorphins sprayed into her brain when she finally put the other bitch down. What would've been really fucking hot would be if she then put on a strapon and fucked this bitch while her boyfriend came on the defeated girls face. But hey, like I said, they're not porno clips and I don't need to see it happen to know it could.

Imaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaginaaaaation!

 

[Killishandra]

When did dominance become this magical spiritual word? It may mean that to us, but the abusive boyfriend who smacks his girl around and ties her to the bed so she can't leave him is being dominant too.

Well, sure, and I can see that being hot even if, realistically, I wouldn't exactly want to be that girl. (An example of "hot fantasy = horrible reality.") But neither of those tapes showed that. They showed an unsure man taking swings at a screaming woman. He didn't dominate her at all.

Now, I hope I didn't just invite a lecture on true Dominance vs. superficial dominance, because if you think I need to hear it, then I was right to think this forum couldn't handle a thread like this.

And as a mod, it's totally up to you to decide what we kids can handle. *nods enthusiastically* You want the truth?!?!? You can't HANDLE the truth!!

LOL

What I'm talking about in this thread, is artery clogging, heart stopping, Kentucky Fried Domination. All the stories about getting fucked really rough and having the best time of your life were sweet, but they really didn't have anything to do with what this thread is about.

I'm talking about BDSM that breaks the rules. I'm talking about sex that is unapologetically evil and gets people hurt. I can't be the only one with these kind of desires, in fact I know I'm not. I think we're either:

A) Truly not that in touch with our inner hungers.

or

B) So fucking obsessed with appearing BDSM Kosher that we lost touch of that part of ourselves that really makes this all hot anyway.

Different people have different desires, Marquis. It ranges over a very, very wide spectrum. You have a tendency to generalize "everyone's" desires into one category... yours. I'm not saying that many people don't share your desires, but I think you quite arrogant to imply (in option "B") that what makes something hot for you is automatically what makes it hot for everyone else who's into it.

Now, I could break it down further why each clip tickled my sadist bone, but if you don't get it just by looking at it, chances are you aren't going to get it with me explaining it to you.

I understand why it tickled your sadist bone. Just because I don't have the same bone doesn't mean I need your patronization. I wasn't mocking your kinks or your rationale behind them. I simply stated how the clips affected ME, personally.

In any case, I hope this incident draw the distinction of the type of things I'm really looking to hear about in this thread. I know people have fucked up stories that turn them on, so stop being such a bunch of fucking squares and be out with them!!

I look forward to the stories. C'mon people, you heard the mod. 'Fess up.

 

[catalina_francisco]

When did dominance become this magical spiritual word? It may mean that to us, but the abusive boyfriend who smacks his girl around and ties her to the bed so she can't leave him is being dominant too.

LOL, no it isn't, it is abuse and the abuser when you get into their head and why they do what they do all comes back to huge insecurities within themselves, fear, and an inability to control their anger and emotions.....that is not a dominance I can respect or give credit as being dominant....but then I also do not necessarily see someone who is a leader or has loads of money as powerful, whereas many in this world do. I guess it all comes down to what you class as power, dominance or whatever and where it plays in fantasy vs reality. What may appeal in a fantasy may not in the cold light of day gain any respect or desire in reality of the same person. Circumstances and individuals count in the equation and I don't think it is something which can be measured blanket like as in 'this is a turn on' or not, or necessarily has a tie to SSC. What gets us going could turn many off, but then we are also aware it is not everyone's thing and a large part of it has to remain in fantasy.

Catalina

 

[Marquis]

Different people may filter and interpret their desires differently, but the base level driving force of our desires is inherently simple and animalistic.

I may not write about kicking men's asses in every post like Betticus, but I know why he feels that way, I know where it comes from. Rosco may not relish in the "incubus" thing, as he puts it, anymore, but he understands the appeal.

I have never bitten a women until she bled, like AA, but I know why he does that too. I've never raped a woman and put an axe to her head like Ted Bundy, and that's further than I've really let myself dig, but I'm sure I could understand the appeal of that too if I let myself.

Honestly, I think it comes down to your level of inhibition and I'm not going to say any more on this unless someone brings up something really worthwhile.


In the meantime, more BBDSM for you.


During high school, I was part of a music and dance movement called Bass. Anytime there was an all ages night at the local nightclub, Atlantis, every highschooler in the area would pack into this huge warehouse of a club for the raunchiest most ghetto fabulous party you could imagine. We wore jean shorts and t-shirts, girls in heavy lip gloss, short shorts and skimpy tops, and they played Bass or Booty music (2 live crew and the like) as loud as you can imagine.

Now, the dancing style to this type of music was straight pornographic. You would walk up behind a bitch and start rubbing your dick on her ass. It might've been acceptable to walk away from such an approach at a regular club, but not at Atlantis. In the Bass scene, bitches knew their place. You could literally grab any bitch you wanted and dry hump her to your hearts desire. The only limiting factor was the line of other men who would sometimes form behind a particularly juicy ass.

Many a time I would see girls shaking uncomfortably and looking around nervously, or even not dancing all together, as someone they couldn't stand was humping away at their back, and probably had his friend pinning her against him from the front. Tits and asses could be grabbed without much fear of reprisal, although many girls would bring big male friends so sometimes you had to watch out.

In any case, the Bass culture was one of organized peer pressure at its best. If a girl refused to dance with you, you could pour your drink out on her head and no one would come to her defense. Turning girls into hos was what this trashy subculture was all about, and you played along or you went home mad.

Stupid bitches.


SHAKE THAT ASSSSSS BITCH AND LET ME SEE WHAT YOU GOT!!!

SHAKE THAT ASSSSSSS BITCH AND LET ME SEE WHAT YOU GOT!!!

IF YOU DON'T WANNA PARTY THAN YOU CAN GO HOME!!!

SHAKE THAT ASSSSSSS BITCH AND LET ME SEE WHAT YOU GOT!!!

 

[Killishandra]

Yeah, that's hot.

I was going to go dancing tonight, but ended up talking Jeet Kune Do to one guy all night and then the clubs were all closing.

 

[Technodivinitas]

Huhn.

I agree with Killi in that I didn't find either clip sexy nor sexual, but I think for different reasons. In the case of the girls, well, I was a slut/geek, and thus took a lot of pointless bullying when I was school-aged, and as Killi suggested, found it pointless. Yes, I agree w/you, Marquis- it was (is) certaily about dominance, but it's not about Dominance. And more often than not, with teen/immature girls, it's just an outlet for horomones, usually with a flimsy and/or fictional excuse. "Yo, bitch! I heard you called me a ho! I'm gonna kick your ass!" My interest in Dominance relates to a much broader kind of Dominance- intellectual as well as (or even instead of) physical. Someone who's buff & tough doesn't impress me if there's no brain behind it.

As for the other clip- I'm not sure if I watched the same clip everyone else did! I didn't see a guy bullying a woman, I saw a guy TRYING to pick shit, and to assert physical dominance, but actually ending up looking a little bitch-whipped. He definitely did not dominate her, and the fact that he kept trying just seemed kinda pathetic.

Yes, I can see adding a healthy dose of imagination and turning either of those into a fantasy, where, for example, the winning girl held the other by her hair and let the boys have at her, or the guy forced the chick to his boot, but in a world where actual porn abounds, and my own imaginantion can come up with far more interesting scenes, or the same scenes with far more attractive participants, that seems a waste of time and effort to me.
(But of course, as in all other cases of disagreement, whatever floats your boat is all good with me.)

 

[rcuhljr]

Rcuhljr, are you a Dom or a sub? *Been wondering that for awhile, now more so after your last post.*

Submissive, that was the main thing about the clips that sparked my introspection, since it's the only aspect of past/present I have seen dominant trend in.

Then it's hard to give a set in stone answer when I honestly have no real experience in the lifestyle, for now I'm just observing and seeing what rings true to me. It may in the end turn out that I am not a true submissive, but I may in fact have switch tendancies, but I can't imagine ever losing the lust for a strong willed partner.

 

[Alt]

My best friend and I had a bet similar. However we got to 5 and 7 and gave it up. Not only were we sore, it was too much effort, lol. We opted for nachos and margaritas instead.

D

Add tequila and the numbers should climb! They do with me anyway.

 

[bridgeburner]

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[Quint]

Now, I don't want to give up my spot as the Lucky Queen Bitch of Bad Bee Dee, but you want to know why I'm not reveling in this thread? Because it sucks. It fucking hurt to feel the way I did after T treated me that way, as hot as it may be to the outside observer--and I'm not at all trying to say no one should get their jollies from my tale of woe, I'm too much of an exhibitionist for that. But for me, it was miserable and thoroughly unenjoyable, and frankly, I'm a little ashamed it happened. That's why I posted it in the "Bad" thread rather than "weekend activities." I DON'T want to recall those moments of sex gone unpleasurably callous. It was cheap, ugly, inconsiderate. Those may be hot adjectives and hotter deeds to the perpetrator and the onlooker, but I doubt you'll find much of what you're craving from the majority of the bottoms in the audience. *shrugs* Sorry to disappoint...guess I'm a nilla wafer after all.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Now, I don't want to give up my spot as the Lucky Queen Bitch of Bad Bee Dee, but you want to know why I'm not reveling in this thread? Because it sucks. It fucking hurt to feel the way I did after T treated me that way, as hot as it may be to the outside observer--and I'm not at all trying to say no one should get their jollies from my tale of woe, I'm too much of an exhibitionist for that. But for me, it was miserable and thoroughly unenjoyable, and frankly, I'm a little ashamed it happened. That's why I posted it in the "Bad" thread rather than "weekend activities." I DON'T want to recall those moments of sex gone unpleasurably callous. It was cheap, ugly, inconsiderate. Those may be hot adjectives and hotter deeds to the perpetrator and the onlooker, but I doubt you'll find much of what you're craving from the majority of the bottoms in the audience. *shrugs* Sorry to disappoint...guess I'm a nilla wafer after all.

*chuckles*

 

[Etoile]

Catalina: That enema fucking must have been unbearable! I can barely take a couple of fingers when I'm holding a lot of water, just because of how hard I'm concentrating on what I'm feeling throughout my insides.

Quint: Incredibly well told, thank you. *fans self*

But my my, all of you lot are quite sordid! I'm so glad I am absolutely innocent and pure.

 

[canadiancutie]

That is fucking insane, again, very hard for me to believe. Anyway I could see the tapes?

a different friend of mine currently holds the tapes haha, come visit, I'm sure he would be more than willing to let you see

 

[Private_Label]

Now, I don't want to give up my spot as the Lucky Queen Bitch of Bad Bee Dee, but you want to know why I'm not reveling in this thread? Because it sucks. It fucking hurt to feel the way I did after T treated me that way, .... Sorry to disappoint...guess I'm a nilla wafer after all.

((hugs Quint))
*cuddles*

 

[Marquis]

Now, I don't want to give up my spot as the Lucky Queen Bitch of Bad Bee Dee, but you want to know why I'm not reveling in this thread? Because it sucks. It fucking hurt to feel the way I did after T treated me that way, as hot as it may be to the outside observer--and I'm not at all trying to say no one should get their jollies from my tale of woe, I'm too much of an exhibitionist for that. But for me, it was miserable and thoroughly unenjoyable, and frankly, I'm a little ashamed it happened. That's why I posted it in the "Bad" thread rather than "weekend activities." I DON'T want to recall those moments of sex gone unpleasurably callous. It was cheap, ugly, inconsiderate. Those may be hot adjectives and hotter deeds to the perpetrator and the onlooker, but I doubt you'll find much of what you're craving from the majority of the bottoms in the audience. *shrugs* Sorry to disappoint...guess I'm a nilla wafer after all.

Quint, I'm sure your man appreciates your putting your own negative feelings aside so he can get a hot fuck even more than we appreciate you doing the same so we can have a hot story.


I don't expect bottoms to like Bad BDSM, in fact, that would kind of ruin the point. However I do expect them to provide it for me as it is my God given right as a Top.

At the very least, if you can post a story that gives you the creeps, more sensitive bottoms can shut the fuck up while I post mine.

Goddamnit people, I'm in a mood! Let's talk edge play!