Bad BDSM

Marquis said:
Quint, I'm sure your man appreciates your putting your own negative feelings aside so he can get a hot fuck even more than we appreciate you doing the same so we can have a hot story.


I don't expect bottoms to like Bad BDSM, in fact, that would kind of ruin the point. However I do expect them to provide it for me as it is my God given right as a Top.

At the very least, if you can post a story that gives you the creeps, more sensitive bottoms can shut the fuck up while I post mine.

Goddamnit people, I'm in a mood! Let's talk edge play!

Good call. (T agrees.)
 
I don't necessarily equate edge play and bad BDSM. I think you can have one without the other. It's an interesting assertion though.

I'm trying to think of bad BDSM moments. Mine were all in the course of my professional Top career, which is on indefinite hiatus.
 
Netzach said:
I don't necessarily equate edge play and bad BDSM. I think you can have one without the other. It's an interesting assertion though.

I'm trying to think of bad BDSM moments. Mine were all in the course of my professional Top career, which is on indefinite hiatus.


Hold on, what exactly is edge play?
 
Marquis said:
Hold on, what exactly is edge play?

Things that are marginally (or more so) dangerous. Generally things that pierce the skin in some way, I believe, although soemthing that feederism could be considered edgeplay because it also poses a health hazard.

Am I right, Netz, or am I missing something? (Not very knowladgeable about that, myself.)
 
Killishandra said:
Things that are marginally (or more so) dangerous. Generally things that pierce the skin in some way, I believe, although soemthing that feederism could be considered edgeplay because it also poses a health hazard.

Am I right, Netz, or am I missing something? (Not very knowladgeable about that, myself.)


So is unprotected sex with a stranger or simple puncture play with the top being a surgeon edge play?
 
Marquis said:
So is unprotected sex with a stranger or simple puncture play with the top being a surgeon edge play?

I think peoples' definition of edgeplay differ, just as peoples' definition of BDSM differs. What I might consider edgeplay someone else might not. *shrug*
 
It just occured to me that my writing style is terribly unclear at times.
 
Marquis said:
Hold on, what exactly is edge play?

I don't have a good definition.

Sometimes I think it's whatever pushes the edges for those involved. With G, the most 101 level I have a big scary knife I'm going to touch to your tit scene would be edgeplay because of how HE feels about knives. That doesn't mean it's "bad BDSM" in the sense I am interpreting...

Then sometimes I think it has to do with what general consensus sees as acceptable. Put on an SS uniform in a public place, and you have pretty much instant edge play.
 
Netzach said:
I don't have a good definition.

Sometimes I think it's whatever pushes the edges for those involved. With G, the most 101 level I have a big scary knife I'm going to touch to your tit scene would be edgeplay because of how HE feels about knives. That doesn't mean it's "bad BDSM" in the sense I am interpreting...

Then sometimes I think it has to do with what general consensus sees as acceptable. Put on an SS uniform in a public place, and you have pretty much instant edge play.


In that case, I would count Bad BDSM as over the edge play.

Here is something that from an outside perspective might seem rather tame, but I do consider it edgeplay although not Bad BDSM.


I had a sub once who was slightly claustrophobic, and got very nervous if she was ever held down in a way that restricted her movement too much. We were having sex on a couch once, modified missionary, and I held her arms down tightly against her chest. She started to panic and struggled with everything she had and cried and cried. All the while I kept fucking her and making teasing ooh and ahh sounds at her.

She eventually stammered out her safe word and ran into the other room. Now if I had ignored the safeword, that would've been some tasty Bad BDSM. Even though she wasn't in any danger, I consider it edge play for her because she was as terrified as if it was.
 
Marquis said:
In that case, I would count Bad BDSM as over the edge play.

Here is something that from an outside perspective might seem rather tame, but I do consider it edgeplay although not Bad BDSM.


I had a sub once who was slightly claustrophobic, and got very nervous if she was ever held down in a way that restricted her movement too much. We were having sex on a couch once, modified missionary, and I held her arms down tightly against her chest. She started to panic and struggled with everything she had and cried and cried. All the while I kept fucking her and making teasing ooh and ahh sounds at her.

She eventually stammered out her safe word and ran into the other room. Now if I had ignored the safeword, that would've been some tasty Bad BDSM. Even though she wasn't in any danger, I consider it edge play for her because she was as terrified as if it was.


Reasonable definition of edgeplay, I agree. In the objective sense it doesn't read like much, but in context it's very intense and pushes limitations.

I don't think I have the karmic wherewithal to intentionally seek out Bad BDSM. I've found it draining when I've found myself there those were the scenes where I damn well EARNED the bucks I was making...I kind of clock in where Quint does on it, which is interesting, because one would think as the Top I'd be elated by it.
 
Marquis said:
I don't expect bottoms to like Bad BDSM, in fact, that would kind of ruin the point. However I do expect them to provide it for me as it is my God given right as a Top.
Putting aside my atheism for a moment, I'm going to ask if you mean "bad BDSM" in a general sense and "bottoms" as your partners, or whether you mean it to specifically refer to this thread and "bottoms" as the self-proclaimed pyl's on this board.
 
LOL, I'm still a little confused as to what constitutes bad BDSM as well. The example Quint gave is what I think of as a mindfuck which we indulge from time to time....gets too much and loses it's purpose when it happens too often. I also think there are very few who will find appeal in things which are seriously harmful to them in any way that is going to require a long healing time psychologically, physically or emotionally....those things leave scars too deep which ultimately shed a light of loser or perpetrator on the one who inflicts such wounds. You may find one or two who will say they love hating it to that degree, but then I usually question the reality of the story or whether they are an abuse victim who feels compelled to cover the arse of the one who hurts them. So Marquis, satisfy our curiousity and let us know what you want and no doubt someone can deliver. :D

Catalina :rose:
 
Etoile said:
Putting aside my atheism for a moment, I'm going to ask if you mean "bad BDSM" in a general sense and "bottoms" as your partners, or whether you mean it to specifically refer to this thread and "bottoms" as the self-proclaimed pyl's on this board.


Bad BDSM in a general sense, and bottoms as in all those people God placed on this earth for the sole purpose of exploitation by men and women like me.
 
catalina_francisco said:
LOL, I'm still a little confused as to what constitutes bad BDSM as well. The example Quint gave is what I think of as a mindfuck which we indulge from time to time....gets too much and loses it's purpose when it happens too often. I also think there are very few who will find appeal in things which are seriously harmful to them in any way that is going to require a long healing time psychologically, physically or emotionally....those things leave scars too deep which ultimately shed a light of loser or perpetrator on the one who inflicts such wounds. You may find one or two who will say they love hating it to that degree, but then I usually question the reality of the story or whether they are an abuse victim who feels compelled to cover the arse of the one who hurts them. So Marquis, satisfy our curiousity and let us know what you want and no doubt someone can deliver. :D

Catalina :rose:


I think I've been pretty clear about what I want.


I want to be a "loser" or "perpetrator".
 
Marquis said:
I think I've been pretty clear about what I want.


I want to be a "loser" or "perpetrator".

LOL, you don't fit that well....too much class and that hidden something you save for special people. :D Buuuuut, if you want that type true story I will try. I once knew this guy who was built and for some reason attracted many women but didn't respond to their blatent hints they would be more than happy to keep him warm at night, or anytime. I had an overseas visitor staying with me (lovely, lively US grannie actually) and while we were out exploring the local shops one day we ran into this body. LOL, like most women she was quite taken with him and cursing her 80 something age, and decided I was mad for not pursuing him myself and took the liberty of telling him he should drop by that evening to spend some time with me.

Hmmmm, well she of course disappeared on me and left me to entertain alone and one thing lead to another until he decided that even though I was not interested, he was going to have his way with me. His theory was if I didn't comply, he would do something to someone else in the house and as I had children there, I kept quiet and tried to persuade him to leave, but was unsuccessful. He began fucking me and then decided he would like my arse better, while also using his glass to fill my pussy. Silly man thought I would be a anal virgin like most of his conquests.

LOL, well I decided I had been down similar roads of non-consent before and was damned if I was going to let it all go his way. Did a quick mind flip to a place where I could semi-enjoy, but made it appear I was enjoying it like nothing ever before...even managed in my well acted throes of passion to break his neckchain which did not go down well. ROFLMAO, as with many of his type and how I suspected he got his thrills through force, he found it very disturbing to find I was enjoying the experience and begging for more, and after cursing me for not being scared and crying, it wasn't long before he shrivelled up and couldn't continue and had to leave far from happy or satisfied.

He came back one more time a few weeks later, without invitation, with the idea he would repeat it and I would not enjoy it so much this time. That really gave me a laugh because by the time I finished with him, not only did he not get his dick in me, but he was so freaked with my convincing story I actually had a scare and was sweating on test results which I was sure would show I had AIDS, he couldn't leave quick enough and declined my sweet invitation to come back after I got the results so we could pick up where he left off...especially as I explained he would probably be infected too so we would then have to fuck each other!!!!...he beat a quick trip to the doctor's so I heard on the grapevine and never darkened my doorway again. :D

Catalina :rose:
 
Great story Catalina! Made me laugh hard!

Marquis? You can't be a loser, can you? You have too much going on for that. Now a perpetrator, sure, anyone can work for that goal. Only problem is, it can lead to a real bad, no fun kinda place.

Well I got nothing. I have experienced very little BDSM in RL. I have experienced no really Bad BDSM.

Real life, I guess, the closest I've come to it would be the rape and sexual assaults and that I don't really consider BDSM. Only one of them did I in any way, "enjoy." You know what? If my ex had been more self aware and told me that was what he was into...never mind he didn't. It was never consensual with him. What a waste.

So the closest things I would have, would be my fantasies, a lot of which I have already written out. The are perhaps "bad BDSM." It depends on your definition So for this thread I guess I'm a dud except for enjoying the vicarious dirty thrills of some stories.

I really don't like men hitting women or women hitting women. I would have put both of those girls and the guy down fast. That was kinda BS looking stuff to me. In a real fight you put them down and they don't get back up for a while.

Spanking, sure I'm into that and a few other things, but hitting, no, not me personally. I tend to go into a do or die mode, it's not pretty and it gets damned dangerous. I don't start the shit but I tend to finish it.

Therefore, I didn't find the videos hot or at least, not my kind of hot. Ya just don't touch the face. I got to perform damn it! In fact I have a thing about having my face touched period. My daughter is always trying to do that for some reason. I can't stand that. She's a sweet girl she means well, just needs to touch me anywhere else but my face. *grr*

So thanks to those that have, or will share their stories of "Bad BDSM." I wish I had something to contribute. Since I don't I will simply keep reading!

Fury :rose:
 
FurryFury said:
Great story Catalina! Made me laugh hard!

Marquis? You can't be a loser, can you? You have too much going on for that. Now a perpetrator, sure, anyone can work for that goal. Only problem is, it can lead to a real bad, no fun kinda place.

Well I got nothing. I have experienced very little BDSM in RL. I have experienced no really Bad BDSM.

Real life, I guess, the closest I've come to it would be the rape and sexual assaults and that I don't really consider BDSM. Only one of them did I in any way, "enjoy." You know what? If my ex had been more self aware and told me that was what he was into...never mind he didn't. It was never consensual with him. What a waste.

So the closest things I would have, would be my fantasies, a lot of which I have already written out. The are perhaps "bad BDSM." It depends on your definition So for this thread I guess I'm a dud except for enjoying the vicarious dirty thrills of some stories.

I really don't like men hitting women or women hitting women. I would have put both of those girls and the guy down fast. That was kinda BS looking stuff to me. In a real fight you put them down and they don't get back up for a while.

Spanking, sure I'm into that and a few other things, but hitting, no, not me personally. I tend to go into a do or die mode, it's not pretty and it gets damned dangerous. I don't start the shit but I tend to finish it.

Therefore, I didn't find the videos hot or at least, not my kind of hot. Ya just don't touch the face. I got to perform damn it! In fact I have a thing about having my face touched period. My daughter is always trying to do that for some reason. I can't stand that. She's a sweet girl she means well, just needs to touch me anywhere else but my face. *grr*

So thanks to those that have, or will share their stories of "Bad BDSM." I wish I had something to contribute. Since I don't I will simply keep reading!

Fury :rose:

*pay attention to me!*
 
I couldn't see the vid of the guy and the woman but damn, those girls were sissies. That was barely more than a slap-fight and for the folks here that pointed out that anyone serious would've been using her legs and feet, I'm with you there.

I've always managed to contain my brawling instinct pretty well, but I almost lost it with this chippy in a gas station two weeks ago. She was basically a princess causing a ruckus and talking a lot of shit and I got tired of listening to her and told her to calm down. She then turns around and starts unloading a raft of crap on me. My mistake, because at that point I was in the full adrenaline rush to lay her the fuck out and realized that getting busted for assault was not something I needed on my daily agenda.

The hysterical thing about it was that she didn't even realize what kind of danger she was in. She just assumed her snotty attitude and a couple of bad words and insults flung at total strangers would get her what she wanted. The whole time she's mouthing off at me I'm noticing her nice dangly earrings and how there's a sharp counter edge behind her and how she weighs maybe a buck five sopping wet.

So she can't make me shut up and she had to wait her turn despite all her attitude and she flounced out trying to make a good show of it and I'm left there with no outlet for the rush.

Not sexual at all, but certainly violent. I've never even tried to engage in sexual play in such a state. This is primarily because if a guy pisses me off that much I'm just going to lose a physical battle with him and crash hard. As far as women are concerned I don't have any strong attractions to them usually and I wasn't at all attracted to this chick, but I'd have thoroughly enjoyed wailing on her ass and then stuffing her full of the beef jerky display. "Apologize to the nice people you've inconvenienced. Tell them you're sorry you're such a snotty little cunt."

Okay, maybe it is a bit sexual. Wow, I never noticed that before.

-B
 
bridgeburner said:
but I'd have thoroughly enjoyed wailing on her ass and then stuffing her full of the beef jerky display. "Apologize to the nice people you've inconvenienced. Tell them you're sorry you're such a snotty little cunt."

Okay, maybe it is a bit sexual. Wow, I never noticed that before.

-B

I need to start getting gas there.
 
Marquis said:
Bad BDSM in a general sense, and bottoms as in all those people God placed on this earth for the sole purpose of exploitation by men and women like me.
I see. Your exhortation about being in a mood to discuss edge play had me thinking that you were expecting the pyl's on this board to provide you with something.
 
Marquis said:
During high school, I was part of a music and dance movement called Bass. Anytime there was an all ages night at the local nightclub, Atlantis, every highschooler in the area would pack into this huge warehouse of a club for the raunchiest most ghetto fabulous party you could imagine. We wore jean shorts and t-shirts, girls in heavy lip gloss, short shorts and skimpy tops, and they played Bass or Booty music (2 live crew and the like) as loud as you can imagine.

Now, the dancing style to this type of music was straight pornographic. You would walk up behind a bitch and start rubbing your dick on her ass. It might've been acceptable to walk away from such an approach at a regular club, but not at Atlantis. In the Bass scene, bitches knew their place. You could literally grab any bitch you wanted and dry hump her to your hearts desire. The only limiting factor was the line of other men who would sometimes form behind a particularly juicy ass.

Many a time I would see girls shaking uncomfortably and looking around nervously, or even not dancing all together, as someone they couldn't stand was humping away at their back, and probably had his friend pinning her against him from the front. Tits and asses could be grabbed without much fear of reprisal, although many girls would bring big male friends so sometimes you had to watch out.

In any case, the Bass culture was one of organized peer pressure at its best. If a girl refused to dance with you, you could pour your drink out on her head and no one would come to her defense. Turning girls into hos was what this trashy subculture was all about, and you played along or you went home mad.

Stupid bitches.


SHAKE THAT ASSSSSS BITCH AND LET ME SEE WHAT YOU GOT!!!

SHAKE THAT ASSSSSSS BITCH AND LET ME SEE WHAT YOU GOT!!!

IF YOU DON'T WANNA PARTY THAN YOU CAN GO HOME!!!

SHAKE THAT ASSSSSSS BITCH AND LET ME SEE WHAT YOU GOT!!!


See, now I know why I have never been able to dominate........ I've been a part of that Bass Culture here for years, just assumed this was how you behaved.... and got on with it!

Could explain a lot actually.....

But thats something for me to divulge once I've given it a little bit more thought.
 
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Marquis said:
It just occured to me that my writing style is terribly unclear at times.
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yeah you n me both. everyone hates my fly by the seat of my pants style. unorthodox and no ridgid style to conform to.

wolf
 
my little contribution to this fun thread...

...not quite bdsm, but very bad, indeed.

when we visited my wife's family for a week, her little sister who is a hot 23 year old, got a little 'gift' from me.

we stayed in my sister-in-laws room while she stayed at her boyfriends house down the road.

at least once a day, i'd open her panty drawer and jack off ALL OVER her clean panties. by the end of the week, there was dried cum everywhere on her panties... there is NO WAY she did not notice after we left. i also stole a few pairs of both clean and dirty panties from her hamper and drawer.

she never said anything about it and never acted any differently with me.
 
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