BDSM and club drugs.

[lil_slave_rose]

Umm... yeah... That was just my street cred showing through. I accidentally throw down some badass ebonics once in a while.

MmHm...and i ALMOST thought You were telling the truth here, 'cept in an earlier post, you already admitted it was a mistake

 

[Betticus]

*grins* i so love your posts, they make me smile. with that said, you're right these things DO cause an altered state, but they are not however DRUG induced, and using drugs in any form while dealing with edge play or any other form of BDSM activities, is just not smart. though maybe it's also because i just don't like the use of drugs...period.

The human brain produces a pain killing substance around a hundred times more powerful than morphine. It also produces other hormones that can be classified as drugs when given to someone. There are all kinds of drugs out there that are designed to correct or to supplement imbalanced brain chemistry. You can even get seratonin in pill form and that's a drug produced by the brain.

So, when you are scening with someone, stimulating them or denying them stimulation in any way you are essentially already plying them with drugs. The difference being that the drugs are being produced by their own body instead of being introduced externally.

 

[lil_slave_rose]

The human brain produces a pain killing substance around a hundred times more powerful than morphine. It also produces other hormones that can be classified as drugs when given to someone. There are all kinds of drugs out there that are designed to correct or to supplement imbalanced brain chemistry. You can even get seratonin in pill form and that's a drug produced by the brain.

So, when you are scening with someone, stimulating them or denying them stimulation in any way you are essentially already plying them with drugs. The difference being that the drugs are being produced by their own body instead of being introduced externally.

valid points. BUT, do You want to risk a synergistic effect between the foreign chemicals and the chemicals the brain is releasing during the scene?

 

[Betticus]

valid points. BUT, do You want to risk a synergistic effect between the foreign chemicals and the chemicals the brain is releasing during the scene?

Aha, finally!

Now we come around to risk assessment.

 

[MasterPhoenix]

Aha, finally!

Now we come around to risk assessment.

Isn't that the core nature of life, risk v reward?

I weigh the the risk of crossing the street with the reward of getting to the other side? I step onto the pavement, and I can get implanted on the grill of a Mack Truck, but there is that really cool fetish shop on the other side. what to do? I mitigate My risks by looking both ways, and using a traffic light if one is available. That decreases the risk involved in crossing the street, and I get to check out their cool selection od canes.

 

[Betticus]

Isn't that the core nature of life, risk v reward?

I weigh the the risk of crossing the street with the reward of getting to the other side? I step onto the pavement, and I can get implanted on the grill of a Mack Truck, but there is that really cool fetish shop on the other side. what to do? I mitigate My risks by looking both ways, and using a traffic light if one is available. That decreases the risk involved in crossing the street, and I get to check out their cool selection od canes.

I think I'm gonna go and alter my brain chemistry with a benadryl and go to sleep. Damn it's late!

 

[lil_slave_rose]

I think I'm gonna go and alter my brain chemistry with a benadryl and go to sleep. Damn it's late!

same here, well except the benadryl part. sleep well

 

[neonflux]

I think I'm gonna go and alter my brain chemistry with a benadryl and go to sleep. Damn it's late!

And I thought that I was the only one who used benadryl as a sleeping draught, LOL. At least I now know that I'm in good company (side advantage being that it also clears your sinuses for the next morning).

 

[Shankara20]

And I thought that I was the only one who used benadryl as a sleeping draught, LOL. At least I now know that I'm in good company (side advantage being that it also clears your sinuses for the next morning).

benadryl or 1/2 dose nyquil - both suggested by my MD (getting older sucks)

 

[Betticus]

benadryl or 1/2 dose nyquil - both suggested by my MD (getting older sucks)

Relax bro, you are far from meeting the grim reaperette!

 

[neonflux]

Relax bro, you are far from meeting the grim reaperette!

Ah, spoken like a lad that is on the other side of 45, LOL. Don't try to get out of it, I've seen your close-up pic Shankie, I'm with you on this one! The experience of one's body slowing down despite one's best efforts is sometimes a discouraging one... (And I know that we're both spring chickens at .)

Confession: I've always had perfect vision and despite being 5 years into needing them, I'm still refusing to get real reading glasses (currently using the Walgreen's kind).

Neon

Thank you for the slight hijack, Betticus.

 

[shmeghead]

My partner and myself role play while on X. We have a great sex life normally, but Xtc takes our sensations to a whole new level. Although I do agree that there is a huge responsibility to be taken in regards to the pain thresholds, but with that all said and done, our experiences have always been positive.

Besides the experiences themselves teaching us more and more each time, the communication before and afterwards, and then consequently the ongoing, provides an ever growing freedom that allows our connection to get deeper and deeper.

Limits are created, understood and abided by. And although we have reached those limits, each time there has been the specified required communication to cease. Allowing both of us to know the other will abide by the limits.

I wouldn't say that drug consumption and BDSM is for everyone. But, I also wouldn't say that everyone should be a mechanic or a plumber either. The saying "To each their own" comes to mind.

My personal belief on this topic is that ANY drug can be bad whether it's alcohol, tobacco, acid, X or anything else. But everyone has their own thresholds and adventures in life, and some are drug related. If one can find a substance that allows them a freedom that otherwise wouldn't be comfortable, then more power to them. If the drug allows a positive evolution, and they aren't hurting anyone, then their life will be better for it. The trick, however, is being able to use it and not have it:
(A) Effect your life negatively
(B) Effect anyone around you negatively or
(C) Take over your life

The minute any of those points are relevant is the same minute the individual needs to re-assess their priorities. But, in saying that, one could also say the same thing about work, relationships, family, gambling, attitude & personality. If it's not allowing a positive evolution, then it needs to be understood better........

Namaste