Breeding fetish info/input requested!!

[Darkniciad]

Lloyd nailed the underage rejection, and the punctuation problem I pointed out is likely responsible for all those rejections, because it's the historically most common grammar rejection.

It's your choice to cease posting stories, but a couple of polite questions could have headed this whole thing off and likely ended any future issues as well.

 

[Blackwinter]

Questions.

If what's posted here is what you submitted, I can tell you exactly what's causing the spelling and punctuation rejections.

When you end dialogue on a statement and use a dialogue tag, you need to end the quote with a comma, not a period.

"I don't know," she said.

Instead of

"I don't know." She said.

That's the most common grammar rejection reported throughout the years I've been here.

As to the underage, I don't see it in anything posted here. Nor do I see any of the usual triggers that cause an erroneous underage rejection. That's assuming that the rejection in question wasn't for a chapter not shown here.

I've been spending the better part of ten minutes reading randomly through books dating to before I was born, and it's actually that old physically 'ATLAS SHRUGGED', and all the way to the most recent book I possess...as I grabbed a bunch randomly for a good sample across decades.
Every single "Place example dialogue here." ends exactly as I did it here, with a Period.
As far as I can determine, print-publishing (which still dominates the market) obeys the standard rules for writing.
QUERY: This place uses Commas only when something is framed with quotational marks??

That makes no sense to me. I need that logic explained.
I have never seen any language or word processing software anywhere on any system that requires such...
Hence, my confusion over something erroneous flying in the face of centuries of established punctuation.

 

[LindsayRae]

That under eighteen thing...right, they're gonna penalize for a common expression type, that folks use everyday, have for centuries...if that IS the problem, whatever...

Make that "common phrase" She shouldn't have been a day over nineteen, then. It doesn't matter how common the phrase or how many people use it. What matters is the age.

Kinda like Stevie Nicks' Edge of Seventeen or Winger's She's Only Seventeen couldn't be used as stories here. It's not that hard.





Case closed.

 

[LindsayRae]

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You must be Marlene's husband, eh?

 

[sr71plt]

Every single "Place example dialogue here." ends exactly as I did it here, with a Period.
As far as I can determine, print-publishing (which still dominates the market) obeys the standard rules for writing.

I don't think so. Even this is not punctuated correctly. There should be no period after "here." Your sentence hasn't finished.

Obviously, even as shown from the attitude you display here, you don't really both to read and absorb directions and guidance. You just go looking for someone else to blame other than yourself.

 

[Blackwinter]

It was a demonstrative-example.

I don't think so. Even this is not punctuated correctly. There should be no period after "here." Your sentence hasn't finished.

Obviously, even as shown from the attitude you display here, you don't really both to read and absorb directions and guidance. You just go looking for someone else to blame other than yourself.

I was asking a question. Trying to figure out the 'why' there's the difference between punctuational demands here that seems at variance with the hardcopy world.

I have no idea how you construed that as some kind of 'attitude' issue, don't care either.
You've simply displayed for everyone to see that you attack first, and have no genuine interest in helping people try to understand something they need assistance with. If you're not going to be of any constructive assistance, stay out of of my way while I try to get this figured-out with help from people who might be willing to explain this to me.
I'm not a writer, unless you count a few dissertations on Multispectral Conversion of Light-Energy to Electrical Power. That would hardly be a piece to bring up regarding my experience as I simply let the spell-check and such do all the work after I threw the information into the piece.

Here's another quote, from ALIEN NATION 'Day Of Descent'
Susan looked directly at him. "Neck the schedule."
That is exactly as it appears in the book. The only places I could find comma used was where there was a narrative break. Such as this example...
"That's odd," George said as Susan turned to the right to continue down the gray, pipe-lined corridor to a branching intersection."The gas usually isn't this thick when we're in transit." P.87 top 2nd paragraph.

 

[Blackwinter]

Yes, I am.

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You must be Marlene's husband, eh?

Yes. I got curious, as is my nature, about some things...and the best way to get answers/get anything done is to do it yourself.
I could have had a friend ghost the place, but accepting that offer felt 'wrong'.
I'm wondering if there isn't some slight, subtle software-issue somewhere that might just be mucking communications up between systems that might be the cause of all this...something left-over from when our network was ransacked, some subtle leftover software damage that might 'futz' communication protocols just slightly, but enough to create headaches.
Something is responsible....7 Submissions Rejected in a row?? That's not coincidence, that's a problem nesting somewhere hard-to-find I suspect.
There's a 'cause' somewhere, I'm just here to try to figure it out.

 

[sr71plt]

I'll be happy to leave you to it. Eventually you might come down off the ceiling. You genuinely don't seem to have a clue about punctuation for dialogue quotes. You might go out and find a grammar book rather than throwing everything at the wall in screamy posts.

 

[lovecraft68]

Yes. I got curious, as is my nature, about some things...and the best way to get answers/get anything done is to do it yourself.
I could have had a friend ghost the place, but accepting that offer felt 'wrong'.
I'm wondering if there isn't some slight, subtle software-issue somewhere that might just be mucking communications up between systems that might be the cause of all this...something left-over from when our network was ransacked, some subtle leftover software damage that might 'futz' communication protocols just slightly, but enough to create headaches.
Something is responsible....7 Submissions Rejected in a row?? That's not coincidence, that's a problem nesting somewhere hard-to-find I suspect.
There's a 'cause' somewhere, I'm just here to try to figure it out.

Not a software glitch. Try good old fashioned spite. After the tirade that Marlene has been going on spanning several threads I would not be surprised if she never gets a story posted here again.

Just becuase it is claimed the owners don;t read the threads don't mena the mods don't notice or a couple of the resident stoolies don't get involved.


As for underage it does not fly here at all you can fuck a horse (if it has a horn cause that makes it a fake horse) and you can commit muder and rape, but don't be 17.

easy enough to follow no?

 

[Blackwinter]

Kinda touchy, aren't you??

I'll be happy to leave you to it. Eventually you might come down off the ceiling. You genuinely don't seem to have a clue about punctuation for dialogue quotes. You might go out and find a grammar book rather than throwing everything at the wall in screamy posts.

So...you'd be one of the 'trolls' I've heard so much about?? I don't run into them much as this is only the second time in my life I've wandered through a forum/public discourse area.
No matter what I say, how I phrase it, you'll automatically find fault and fire an attack...pretty obvious so far, that.
I've quoted examples, as a means of attempting to rationally and calmly find out where the problem is. I'm using such as a diagnostic tool, because the best way to find out about something is to compare it against something similar.
...and you consider these to be hysterical-sounding, 'screamy' posts.
Also, I told you and everyone else up-front, that I am not a writer, I rely on software and such.
So to figure this whole thing out I have to establish a knowledge-base from scratch essentially.

You're attacking me for citing quotes, and insulting me for an openly-admitted lack of knowledge. I genuinely doubt that anyone here would have any problems with my posts.
I make it very clear I'm trying to find a solution and gather information so I can do so, not start a fight or waste time becoming involved in one.

 

[Blackwinter]

It's the 'pre-tirade' time-frame I wonder about...

Not a software glitch. Try good old fashioned spite. After the tirade that Marlene has been going on spanning several threads I would not be surprised if she never gets a story posted here again.

Just becuase it is claimed the owners don;t read the threads don't mena the mods don't notice or a couple of the resident stoolies don't get involved.


As for underage it does not fly here at all you can fuck a horse (if it has a horn cause that makes it a fake horse) and you can commit muder and rape, but don't be 17.

easy enough to follow no?

So I'm wondering about the Rejections prior to her 'explosion'.
There's all kinds of bizarre, weird little things that can happen with computers, a minor stting gets switched, and massive headaches and three weeks tearing apart a server-farm to find out...
It was a Browser-setting issue.
Friend of mine went through that a month ago.
So, I've learned that where computer-to-computer comm is involved, even the most innocuous seeming thing can have weird effects.
Also, I have to work in the dark as I have NO idea what platform and such Literotica is running on.

Still, I appreciate you telling me the above info about stoolies and such.

I'm looking at the spellcheckers (yes, multiple) she's been using in addition to her own eyes and brain.
It could be as simple as one thing being set for different 'standards' than another...'Chicago standards' was mentioned somewhere....as an example, it could be that she's inadvertantly using 'Los Angeles' standards, or whatever such is properly called.
I'm not a writer, so I'm half-blind as I try to build my knowledge-base.

 

[Darkniciad]

The standard for a statement in dialogue followed by a dialogue tag ( he said, she said, etc. ) is to end the quote with a comma. I can randomly pick up any one of a dozen books sitting near my computer desk and find hundreds of examples. It is the publishing standard.

More importantly, it's Lit's standard. Regardless of what anyone else does, when you're working with a publisher, you have to conform to their standards. Lit's standards are that you use a comma to end a quotation when there's a dialogue tag following.

For whatever reason, they're a stickler for this one -- and any punctuation errors having to do with dialogue. It's the most commonly reported reason for grammar/spelling rejections, and has been the entire time I've been here.

As to the underage rejection, they have an even harder line on that one. The line mentioned by Lloyd opens the opportunity that a character who's being forced into sexual activity might be under 18. Forced is an important part of this one, I believe. You can dance around the edges of one content danger zone, but those few words dance around the edges of two.

It's not some special standard for one person, although it's easy enough to see it that way without the context of the years of working with and advising authors who've had Lit rejections. These are standard Lit rejections that likely happen every day to any number of people.

 

[sr71plt]

So...you'd be one of the 'trolls' I've heard so much about??

No, I'm just someone waiting for you to stop ranting and to start to pay attention to the fact that it isn't everyone who is having this trouble--it's you. So, you should start with the attitude "What am I doing wrong?" rather than "Everyone here is screwed up but me" written in big, screamy letters. Trust me, it's you.

Darknciad has tried several times to explain to you how dialogue punctuation works--something you could (and should) find out for yourself by reading a grammar book, and you show no indication you are listening.

Lit. has no quote punctuation rules that aren't standard across at least the U.S. standards. (The UK system is somewhat different, but not in the cases you are pointing to.)

Examples:

"Jack and Helga went up that hill," he said.

He turned to me and said, "Jack and Helga went up that hill."

When I asked him where Jack and Helga went, his answer was quick and curt. "How the hell would I know?"

If you use a dialogue tag with it (the first two examples do; the third one doesn't), it takes a comma, not a period. (Every literate published English language book you pick up in the world will handle it this way.)

Instead of continually railing against what is probably misunderstood (by you) issues, why don't you send the text to someone to look over and see what might actually be wrong? If you PM me, I will give you an address to send a Word attachment to, and I'll look it over. And that's an offer I bet you wouldn't make to me on any problem I was having posting.

 

[Marlene38EE]

One problem solved....

There, the 'Inappropriate-Content' has been removed.
My apologies to those who were enjoying reading the story here, but I simply could not keep up to or handle the flooding of my inbox with exceedingly 'unpleasant' messages mixed with threats of ensuring I get banned for attempting to 'short' the Submissions process.

 

[LindsayRae]

If your writing ever is accepted, try the Loving Wives category. You'll have a larger fill of threats.

 

[Blackwinter]

Your powers of obliviousness astound...

No, I'm just someone waiting for you to stop ranting and to start to pay attention to the fact that it isn't everyone who is having this trouble--it's you. So, you should start with the attitude "What am I doing wrong?" rather than "Everyone here is screwed up but me" written in big, screamy letters. Trust me, it's you.

Darknciad has tried several times to explain to you how dialogue punctuation works--something you could (and should) find out for yourself by reading a grammar book, and you show no indication you are listening.

Lit. has no quote punctuation rules that aren't standard across at least the U.S. standards. (The UK system is somewhat different, but not in the cases you are pointing to.)

Examples:

"Jack and Helga went up that hill," he said.

He turned to me and said, "Jack and Helga went up that hill."

When I asked him where Jack and Helga went, his answer was quick and curt. "How the hell would I know?"

If you use a dialogue tag with it (the first two examples do; the third one doesn't), it takes a comma, not a period. (Every literate published English language book you pick up in the world will handle it this way.)

Instead of continually railing against what is probably misunderstood (by you) issues, why don't you send the text to someone to look over and see what might actually be wrong? If you PM me, I will give you an address to send a Word attachment to, and I'll look it over. And that's an offer I bet you wouldn't make to me on any problem I was having posting.

Did you happen to check the name of the post?
Clearly it was meant for my wife...oops, missed.
You really are ridiculous. I'd ask if you were aware of that, but it's plain to all you're not.
Even your offer of assistance is insulting, and quite derogatory.
To quote you;
" And that's an offer I bet you wouldn't make to me on any problem I was having posting. "
You know Marlene or myself that well do you? To make aspersions on our character as such?? Very nice manners...
Now, when I tried asked some questions to start sorting this all out, you fired on me directly,or possibly again, you obliviously figured it was Marlene.
Well, I've seen how you handle general requests for information and how tolerant you are when someone is building up a kowledge-base of facts and details.
I wouldn't let Marlene within ten metres of you, and I certainly will not allow her to contact you via PM where you might decide to be really nasty. I do not trust you. Period.
I have no solid reason, based on your behaviour to date, as to why I should allow her to expose herself to you anymore than she has and I will be ensuring she adds you to her 'ignore' list.
She'll get it figured all out in time, of that I'm quite confident and there are others willing to help her that aren't anywhere near as insulting, derogatory, bullying or just plain spiteful as you come across as on this board. Rather, they are quite pleasant, helpful and just plain 'nice'. They know who they are, and have my Thanks.

 

[LindsayRae]

Maybe the large font confused him? After all, that is usually the annoying shit your wife does. Seems you're into it, now, too.

 

[Blackwinter]

Your point?

Maybe the large font confused him? After all, that is usually the annoying shit your wife does. Seems you're into it, now, too.

The font used is Georgia, setting 3...doesn't seem oversized to me.
If it's the signature, that's a work in progress.
I've gone through Marlene's posts....she doesn't use sizes larger than 3 very often, pretty rarely, seen what could be some size 4 fonts, still a reasonable size..
I counted five instances, but certainly less than 10.

So your point is what, exactly?

 

[LindsayRae]

My point was exactly what I wrote. Perhaps YOU confused sr71plt by posting like Marlene. Maybe not. I am not sr71plt so I have no idea what goes on in his head.

Anything larger than the "standard" font and size is considered large. *shrugs* Also, I know that most people do not use the different font "styles" when writing a post, though the feature certainly is there.

Again, *shrugs* No big deal one way or another. No need to try to make one of it either.

 

[Blackwinter]

Detente, then. Yes, happily agreed.

My point was exactly what I wrote. Perhaps YOU confused sr71plt by posted like Marlene. Maybe not. I am not sr71plt so I have no idea what goes on in his head.

Anything larger than the "standard" font and size is considered large. *shrugs* Also, I know that most people do not use the different font "styles" when writing a post, though the feature certainly is there.

Again, *shrugs* No big deal one way or another. No need to try to make one of it either.

Agreed, no point in starting a firefight over it. Wasn't looking for one, too expensive.
sr71plt is only of interest to me insofar as how he 'speaks' to my wife.
In the end, she's my wife, and even were she single-handedly responsible for half the galaxy being rendered lifeless and the remaining half beset by demons from Hell I would still stand by her.
She's the only family I have, and when you have no living relatives after years and thousands of dollars spent looking, I'm sure you understand.

Marlene likes to use different fonts, according to her it's just 'prettier'.

From what I've seen of his posts, you might be lucky not to have any idea what goes on in his head.
I've been looking around at his posts over time...
Enlightening to say the least.

Standard-size...
Easy to figure out what's what.
Experiment time.

Sample 1; Message box default
Sample 2; Verdana at default size
Sample 3; Verdana at size '3'
Sample 4; Georgia at default size
Sample 5; Georgia at size '3'

Now, I have a dinner that's finally done and ready to be served under candle light.
So, I'll excuse myself on that point and wish you the best in your writing career, and that the Morality Police do not bother you.
I doubt they confine themselves to merely hassling 'Loving Wives' writers...

Martin

 

[sr71plt]

Yes, I thought you were the same poster using two names. The postings have all of the same characteristics, including the attitude.

 

[Blackwinter]

The attitude??

Yes, I thought you were the same poster using two names. The postings have all of the same characteristics, including the attitude.

She's a pretty tough lady, despite her good nature, that's what attracted me to her initially...
That, her height and figure.
My attitude is the result of over forty years dealing with people who behave in a manner that makes what's happening here look like like High Tea in Victorian England.
We've also been married for over five years, it's normal for traits to rub-off on each other and I'm fifteen years older, so that factors in too.

This is getting ridiculous and beginning to sound like something back from Elementary school.
We're too old to be acting like this, and we both have better things to do.

If I propose a Detente`, live-and-let-live with no further slamming or snarking of each other -including Marlene- will you accept??

 

[sr71plt]

You two (now that you claim to be two) came out of the gate throwing punches with big, screamy postings (yes, larger-than-normal font gives that impression). I'll continue to be as I am. Included in what I am was the offer to look at your texts and try to help you figure out where you went wrong. You haven't taken me up on that, but that's fine with me.