CHYOO 3! Need your feedback and suggestions...

Yes, having a FAQ on the front page of the site (after "Are you 18?" page) would be great.
 
Yaknow how the most posts in the message board you have, the more 'status' you have, and therefore the more ability you have to update your profile, etc?

What if the # of feedbacks on CHYOO you've given, or the # of threads you've had approved gave you more CHYOO abilities.

Maybe to customize your story's front page....
or maybe embed HTML into threads.
or an avatar for your CHYOO identity.
or to see more details on who provided what ratings on your threads, rather than an average...
 
Oh shoot, another neat idea.... how about we make this work more like a WIKI... where anyone can edit anyone's thread (to fix a typo, spelling, continuity error).

Rather than read 'Thread by Juiblex', it should be able to hold a more complex revision history ('Thread created by Juiblex, revised by Torg, revised by LilGuy')

So I don't even need to be an author in a story. I am reading, and noticed that somehow someone mistyped {FIRST_NAME}, and I want to fix it to make the story more enjoyable to read..... why shouldn't I be able to?

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Likewise, we can 'report' a thread to the moderators. We should be able to 'report' a thread to the editors of that story.

We could report continutity errors, questionable content, etc.
 
Juiblex said:
Oh shoot, another neat idea.... how about we make this work more like a WIKI... where anyone can edit anyone's thread (to fix a typo, spelling, continuity error).

Rather than read 'Thread by Juiblex', it should be able to hold a more complex revision history ('Thread created by Juiblex, revised by Torg, revised by LilGuy')

So I don't even need to be an author in a story. I am reading, and noticed that somehow someone mistyped {FIRST_NAME}, and I want to fix it to make the story more enjoyable to read..... why shouldn't I be able to?

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Likewise, we can 'report' a thread to the moderators. We should be able to 'report' a thread to the editors of that story.

We could report continutity errors, questionable content, etc.


THese are excellent ideas.
 
Rather than list the 5-10 freshest storiest on the front page.... how about we are able to see the freshest/newest/highest rated for each category?

I know you can technically do this via the advanced search features... but those are way to may clicks to be useable by the casual consumer.
 
I've noticed a small bug.

If I log in, then view my stories. Then view the story map for one of my stories, then click on a thread that is in the middle of the story.....

{FIRST_NAME} {LAST_NAME} are NULL, and completely missing. Sometimes, if I was browsing another story they are sometimes populated with the wrong sex (Jane Doe, for a male POV story).
 
Like some posters have said, I think all chyoo needs is a revamped UI and a little more customization:

Simply add a toggle feature to stories that allows authors to put in a number of variables for the user which is prompted at the begining or after the introduction choice has been made.

For example:

John

Hair:
*blue
*red
*blonde
*gray
Personality:
*whatever
*etc.
*etc.
*etc.

This feature would be invaluable to writers who want to make their stories RPG-Esque or simply more customizable.

It couldn't be too hard, it would be very similar to the name variable already in place.

Edit: Oh and, I think you need to make a slight change to the "Top Rated Stories" window. Make it so that stories have to receive atleast 10 votes to be eligible to show up under the top 5.
 
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Juiblex said:
Rather than read 'Thread by Juiblex', it should be able to hold a more complex revision history ('Thread created by Juiblex, revised by Torg, revised by LilGuy')

Good idea, the only thing I'm wondering about is whether or not the revises would have to be approved by either the story's editor, or the threads creator.
If that's the case, then I'm definitetly for it.
 
Juiblex said:
What if the # of feedbacks on CHYOO you've given, or the # of threads you've had approved gave you more CHYOO abilities.

But how do you control for people spamming writers with blank or blithe feedback just so they can win the coveted CHYOO abilities?
 
For me as an editor it would be real nice to be able to see how many times one of my stories had been viewed during a particular month, not just total view count and the number of views during the current month.
Secondly, beyond seeing how many rates one thread had received, it would be nice to be able to see how many times it had been viewed.
 
Gunde said:
...beyond seeing how many rates one thread had received, it would be nice to be able to see how many times it had been viewed.

Much agreed. It's hard to know how far people are getting into your chyoo without that.
 
amalgam said:
But how do you control for people spamming writers with blank or blithe feedback just so they can win the coveted CHYOO abilities?

Good question.

You could always have creators the ability to reject feedback, or to 'mark it', like you can currently threads for the moderators to examine/deal with.

I guess it is the classic example of quality vs quantity. Sure some folks with try and blow through the feedback portion. But I bet others would try and be sincere about it.
 
One bug in the current system is that Links cannot be deleted. I just found a story with two or three inappropriate links that loop the threads or make totally bad story switches.
 
Torg said:
One bug in the current system is that Links cannot be deleted. I just found a story with two or three inappropriate links that loop the threads or make totally bad story switches.

I wonder if you can delete the thread before the link to get rid of it, and then repost the thread after clearing out the bad link??
 
amalgam said:
But how do you control for people spamming writers with blank or blithe feedback just so they can win the coveted CHYOO abilities?

I'd probably skip feedbacks as a metric, and use something that selects for attention span.

Perhaps "Weeks in which this user has added a thread or approved a thread" plus some bonus for number of stories created or contributed to.

Avoiding a Chyoo version of "98, 99, 100, aha I have an avatar!" that we see on Lit Forums periodically.

-Z
 
jakelyon said:
I wonder if you can delete the thread before the link to get rid of it, and then repost the thread after clearing out the bad link??
As long as it's yours, that works. For anyone else's thread, they would lose their authorship.
 
Juiblex said:
Oh shoot, another neat idea.... how about we make this work more like a WIKI... where anyone can edit anyone's thread (to fix a typo, spelling, continuity error).

Rather than read 'Thread by Juiblex', it should be able to hold a more complex revision history ('Thread created by Juiblex, revised by Torg, revised by LilGuy')

So I don't even need to be an author in a story. I am reading, and noticed that somehow someone mistyped {FIRST_NAME}, and I want to fix it to make the story more enjoyable to read..... why shouldn't I be able to?

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Likewise, we can 'report' a thread to the moderators. We should be able to 'report' a thread to the editors of that story.

We could report continutity errors, questionable content, etc.
Maybe you could make that an option for each story the same way allowing authors to add to your story after so many accepted posts is an option. I'd hate to have some jerk replacing a whole story thread with "You suck" on it. That and I don't bother to keep records of my posts so it would totally ruin the story.
 
jakelyon said:
I wonder if you can delete the thread before the link to get rid of it, and then repost the thread after clearing out the bad link??
Couldn't you Mods create a new story just to test these theories out?
There it won't matter if the story is screwed up by testing.
 
jakelyon said:
I wonder if you can delete the thread before the link to get rid of it, and then repost the thread after clearing out the bad link??

I am not sure if I mentioned this, but I thought it...

functionality should exist so that you can either totally delete a link, or at the very least 'unlink', causing a copy of all of the linked threads to show up as if they were duplicate. Then you could tweak the copies (delete, modify)...
 
Oh, just one more thing that I don't believe has beem mentioned here; the story map could definitely do with some improvements.
Basically, when the depth of one story-line goes beyond 30, it start's getting very "squeezed."
I mean, a story like Ultimate Fan-Fiction with at least one storyline reaching 100 threads in depth, is basically impossible to overview.
It's late and I'm tired, hope I'm making some sense at least.
 
Any proposals on how to fix the story map?

It seems like the problems with Ultimate Fan Fiction would be remedied with some of the other ideas on this thread. Maybe 10% of those threads are dedicated to initial 'scenario creation'.

As far as a short term fix, perhaps indentation for large thread counts could be reduced.

Or if you wanted to get fancy, I bet you could create a flash app that would let you browse the threads more graphically.
 
Chyoo 3 ? Good News !

Hello.

I have looked to the Ideas and i think the most are good to my opinion. Here are now some of my Ideas.
First I am from Germany and as a Guy that reads many of the Storys I would prefer too a more specific Non-English Cathegory to browse to.

If you change the apperance of the Title list you could add Signals like this:


THE GREAT ADVENTURE by WRITER . . O . o . O
^ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ^. . . . . . ^ . ^ . ^
Title . . . . . . . . . . . . Editor . . . Voted . . I . . for Future use maybe
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . I
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . new Thread added.

The little one is set. With color it would look better, but for a Text Site it must not be. I think B/W is ok. To many options will make it only more complicated.

From my POV it would be a not so good Idea to allowe all People to edit a story. We have many Jokers that would make nonsense of Threads that others have written if they had the Possibility. Let the right of editing Threads by People which the Editor had approved.

Maybe you could automatical approve to storys that would not be checked after a while. If a Thread has addet to a story that the Editor had not checked for, say 2 Month then it should automated approved or the story should be freed to adopt by an other Writer after a Message had sent to the Original Writer to maintain it.

You could add a little more rights to change text. Bold Characters and italic style or maybe a second Charackter set would be enough. It would make it easier and nicer to read a Story with Thoughts in italic. or a hard robotic Voice in Bold Characters.

I don´t Know how many Space you will give us, but i had thought many times that it would look good if to some Storys, or Threads there could be add a little Picture. You could allowe it to a fixed Place like the Head of a Thread and limit it´s Volume or Dimensions. Like 320x200 Points.
I think there are some People (Like Me ;) ) that would add Pictures of the Main Characters to their Story. It would look good i Think. Why else you can add Avatars in the Forums ? People are Eye-Fixed.

And it could be good to let Writers add a link o their Sites if they had one. If the Idea with the Pictures isnt possible to realize they could make a link to a Yahoo-Group or so that containes Pictures for their Story.
Sure, there are People that would make complete other sense of such Options but this is Humans Nature and could be sayed of any Idea. So the Writers and Editors must check their Babys better.

In the Story map should the latest Additions be marked better. You could make a new Tree system like that for Computer Directorys.
At start a button to completely open All Threads, or a Tree that branches could opened by clicking on an add.
So the Map would be much more easy to navigate.
I personally hate to scroll wide and long Maps to reach the second Thread of the fourth Option from the first Site because the first Thread has 50 Sites with another 20 branches that lead .....
You know ?

Oh , and YES ! PLEASE make a new working Voting system. The TOP STORIES Window is rubbish.
You could also add a List of Writers/Editors by their Votes. Possibly a Application for this KARMA Thing ?

And an other Writer from Germany had asked me it there is a Discussion Board or Chat of Chyoo for Questions and Idea - Exchange. That was bevor I Found the Adress of this Board in the „Chyoo FAQ - Story"
So I would suggest this Idea too. Or a Blackboard for Ideas, and maybe Requests could be nice.

And why not a weekly poll ? Ok, there are a lot of German Storys but only a few working Writers (I think at Moment about 10). So I not want make a new Story because I havent the Will to write every Story on my Own. If I had the Chance to present a Story-Idea and had a possibility to Check if others would write to this Story too, I had more Interest to write it.
I think it so. Writers present a Idea for their new Story in 1 Sentence. (Should go.) This will be collected for a Week. Then the next week it will presented and all, readers and writers have the Chance to vote. So the Writer can see if his Idea found Interest and if other People would join his work.
I think this could brake the amount of Storys that has 1 Thread for month and years, because nobody want to write for it. (Even the Creator.)

So i think i have Tortured you enough with Ideas and my rape of the English Language. Hope it contains at least 1 useful Idea.
After all I am Happy to have a Site like CHYOO anyway.

Merry X-Man, sorry X-Mas and a Happy new Year and many, many Readers for your Storys.
 
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Juiblex said:
Any proposals on how to fix the story map?

Nope. Absolutely zero proposals from me I'm afraid.
However, I have another suggestion that would solve a lot of problems with finding threads in bookmarked stories: Threads to Read.
Like for editors when new threads have been submitted to the story, but without the ability to approve them (naturally).
Would that be easily doable?
 
Hi everyone,

Just wanted to drop a note to let you know I've been following this thread with great interest and to thank you for your suggestions so far. Please keep the ideas flowing.

I don't have time to comment on each suggestion but will venture to say that if they're good, they'll probably make it into the new version.

Though I'm a proponent of the open source movement, CHYOO 3 was commissioned to me by the management of Literotica. I suspect they'd be the first to admit that their attention to CHYOO has been "lacking". However, I've kept a steady dialogue with them the past couple of months and I've gotten the impression that they're prepared to renew their efforts to grow the site, starting with a new version with moderation capabilities and the possibility of a paid, full-time site administrator when the site is complete.

Again, thank you for your suggestions so far and your continued dedication to CHYOO.

setic
 
setic said:
Hi everyone,

Just wanted to drop a note to let you know I've been following this thread with great interest and to thank you for your suggestions so far. Please keep the ideas flowing.

I don't have time to comment on each suggestion but will venture to say that if they're good, they'll probably make it into the new version.

Though I'm a proponent of the open source movement, CHYOO 3 was commissioned to me by the management of Literotica. I suspect they'd be the first to admit that their attention to CHYOO has been "lacking". However, I've kept a steady dialogue with them the past couple of months and I've gotten the impression that they're prepared to renew their efforts to grow the site, starting with a new version with moderation capabilities and the possibility of a paid, full-time site administrator when the site is complete.

Again, thank you for your suggestions so far and your continued dedication to CHYOO.

setic

I have been around this site for a couple of years and what you are proposing is music to my ears. It has been neglected for so long that it is almost impossible to believe that it will get the badly needed update it deserves. It would be very cool if you are able to pull off the things you are talking about.

I hope you have taken the time to read back in the feedback forum. There are some excellent threads there as to suggestions to improve the system. The history of suggestions should yield some very good ideas for you.

If I can help you in anyway please just PM me, or drop me an e-mail.

:D
 
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