Cunt, Whore, and hair pulling.

[Johnny Mayberry]

Wow, it is shocking to see a Dom in action, isn't it?

 

[AnelizeDarkEyes]

JM, are you giving our new folk lessons again?

*grin*

~anelize

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

JM, are you giving our new folk lessons again?

*grin*

~anelize

LOL, I guess I am!

 

[niteshade]

Wow, it is shocking to see a Dom in action, isn't it?

Lol.. well, if that is what you call it

 

[niteshade]

JM, are you giving our new folk lessons again?

*grin*

~anelize

Awwwww... and I was starting to feel like a semi-used folk

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

Actually, I was trying to make a point: how submissive is a sub actually being if name-calling is a hard limit?

 

[niteshade]

Well, for me, my submission is a gift I give because it makes me happy to do so. He respects that, and respects the feelings I have on certain things.
I am not sure if I have captured WriterDom's original purpose, but for me it is not so much the fact that name calling may happen (He does call me his little slut on occasion, or bitch, or some other names that may occur to Him) so much as the connotations that some words carry, and the feelings they bring with them. In the South, there tends to be more emphasis on politeness, courtesy, and the like, as well as a belief that women are entitled to be talked to respectfully.

Maybe it is different for other women, but for me, and a majority of the women I know, there is something particularly foul about being called a "cunt." That is the single most disrespectful word to describe a woman that I can think of. When I hear that word, or have it applied to me, it is akin to abuse. I do not know why I feel this way, or why a particular word might carry so much meaning in a certain region (I am assuming here from other's comments that the word cunt does not have such profound meanings in other areas of the country). I simply know that is how I feel.
So, do I feel that I am not being submissive by saying that I refuse to be called a cunt by a person that I have feelings for? Perhaps so, but then I would have to say that I am not being submissive by refusing to entertain the notion of putting up with physical abuse, or any other action that causes me pain.
As I understood it, a hard limit is a prohibition against an action that the sub (or Dom for that matter) feels would be repugnant or harmful for them, or an action that one feels to be totally unacceptable. Being treated as if I have no innate worth, and am worthy of no respect, is just such an action, and is, as such, a hard limit. Then again, I never claimed to get off on humiliation, and He does not require it of me. If he did, I would not be with him.

 

[cellis]

Actually, I was trying to make a point: how submissive is a sub actually being if name-calling is a hard limit?

By the same token... Himself never uses those kinds of names for me... Perhaps it is because we are both Southern... prehaps it is because He is a gentleman... Those names actually bother me less than they do Him... at least I think so.. maybe I will ask Him...

He does however call me His "slub"... a term I accidently coined a long time ago to mean slutty sub....

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

Well, it depends on what sort of effect you are going for...1) it works for humilation play, and 2) you can turn words like that into affectionate terms.

 

[Arden]

Maybe it is different for other women, but for me, and a majority of the women I know, there is something particularly foul about being called a "cunt." That is the single most disrespectful word to describe a woman that I can think of. When I hear that word, or have it applied to me, it is akin to abuse. I do not know why I feel this way, or why a particular word might carry so much meaning in a certain region (I am assuming here from other's comments that the word cunt does not have such profound meanings in other areas of the country). I simply know that is how I feel.
So, do I feel that I am not being submissive by saying that I refuse to be called a cunt by a person that I have feelings for? Perhaps so, but then I would have to say that I am not being submissive by refusing to entertain the notion of putting up with physical abuse, or any other action that causes me pain.
As I understood it, a hard limit is a prohibition against an action that the sub (or Dom for that matter) feels would be repugnant or harmful for them, or an action that one feels to be totally unacceptable. Being treated as if I have no innate worth, and am worthy of no respect, is just such an action, and is, as such, a hard limit. Then again, I never claimed to get off on humiliation, and He does not require it of me. If he did, I would not be with him.

Amen!

I grew up Catholic in the Midwest. I also spent 22 years in the bible belt - Texas. Admittedly, I learned to curb my own language after moving there. Swearing wasn't acceptable or politically correct for women, so the 'fuck' and 'damn' words were set aside. (Unless I hurt myself reallllllllly bad, lol)

Cunt, whore, slut and bitch are not acceptable. To me they show disrespect. In fact, I cringe and lose focus if I hear those words during sex or play. It's a gut reaction that I can't overcome. Luckily, he respects that those words affect me adversely.

We didn't have to establish it as a hard limit. He respects my feelings, and knows that I can't deal with it. No biggie.

As stated previously, words of that nature may have a place in a relationship where humiliation is part of the deal. And, I understand that others grow to see them as terms of endearment. I respect that since we are all very different.

On the other hand, I can also see where using words like that is a macho thing for some guys. They don't care what your feelings are about it, they do it because it makes them feel cool. Macho and cool is something I can live without. Neither is required for domination, and those cool macho dudes have nothing that I want or need in my life.

 

[AnelizeDarkEyes]

Ok. Let me get this straight. I'm generalizing here of course, but the gist of what I'm getting here is:

You can fuck my ass and tie me up for hours and cum all over me and whip me blind, but DO NOT EVER CALL ME A CUNT!!!!


I don't get it.


But then again, I like being called a cunt.


One sub's humiliation is another's hard limit. Ain't diversity grand?


~anelize

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

I thought submissives were supposed to submit, to be used as their Dom sees fit?

Silly me, I suppose...

 

[FungiUg]

Actually, I was trying to make a point: how submissive is a sub actually being if name-calling is a hard limit?

Limits can be damned strange at times.

Besides, if she's submissive, then she acknowledges she has limits... otherwise she'd be a slave.

I guess name calling seems a minor point to you (and frankly, to myself), but I've spoken to another person who had name calling as a limit as well, so it's not a surprise to me now.

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

Limits can be damned strange at times.

Besides, if she's submissive, then she acknowledges she has limits... otherwise she'd be a slave.

I guess name calling seems a minor point to you (and frankly, to myself), but I've spoken to another person who had name calling as a limit as well, so it's not a surprise to me now.

If it is a limit, it had better be for a DAMNED good reason, not just because the sub finds it distateful. For instance, childhood verbal abuse.
Otherwise, 'suck it up, whore!'

 

[niteshade]

If it is a limit, it had better be for a DAMNED good reason, not just because the sub finds it distateful. For instance, childhood verbal abuse.
Otherwise, 'suck it up, whore!'

Actually, I feel that the reasons I gave where good enough, but I was in fact verbally as well as physically abused as a child.

 

[FungiUg]

If it is a limit, it had better be for a DAMNED good reason, not just because the sub finds it distateful. For instance, childhood verbal abuse.
Otherwise, 'suck it up, whore!'

Yeah, well, I guess that's what the discussion about limits between a dominant and a submissive is all about.

Me, I love calling someone a "slut". I don't use "whore", because that's more about prostitution (and the term doesn't excite me to use, so there). And "cunt" I use for a body part. As in "squeeze your cunt around my cock, slut!"

Each to their own I guess.

 

[Arden]

It's all about what works for your relationship, isn't it? Nothing else matters in the grand scheme of things.

Johnny, does 'being used' have to include foul language? Are you saying that submitting to one's will has to include derogatory language to make it a true D/s relationship?

I love 'being used'

I suppose I see submission as being more cerebral and sexual. It's an individual thing. It makes no sense to judge other's relationships by your own standards. We're all different.

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

WHORE!!
























There, I said it...anyone feeling hurt yet?

 

[Arden]

WHORE!!
























There, I said it...anyone feeling hurt yet?

Not a bit, you bastard!

 

[FungiUg]

Bitch! You stole my punch line...

(Now, where did I leave that custard pie?)

 

[niteshade]

WHORE!!


.























There, I said it...anyone feeling hurt yet?

nope, for 2 reasons... you aren't my S/O, and it wasnt really the word whore I objected to anyway

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

It's all about what works for your relationship, isn't it? Nothing else matters in the grand scheme of things.

Johnny, does 'being used' have to include foul language? Are you saying that submitting to one's will has to include derogatory language to make it a true D/s relationship?

I love 'being used'

I suppose I see submission as being more cerebral and sexual. It's an individual thing. It makes no sense to judge other's relationships by your own standards. We're all different.

It doesn't have to, but I don't see why it couldn't, why a certain amount of humiliation isn't perfectly appropriate in a D/s relationship. After all, we are talking about one person more-or-less owning another, you dig?

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

nope, for 2 reasons... you aren't my S/O, and it wasnt really the word whore I objected to anyway

Ok, fine!




CU ...ok, I'll stop now.

 

[niteshade]

Ok, fine!




CU ...ok, I'll stop now.

Lmao... k... thanks.

 

[Arden]

Bitch! You stole my punch line...

(Now, where did I leave that custard pie?)

I think it's stuck on your cock!

It's all about where it is used, and when. I can swear like a sailor, but it projects a different meaning depending on the situation.

I am no angel.

Night, all...