Netzach
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Marquis said:Goddamnit, Netzach always gets her shit out first.
Yeah but you actually follow it up with some friendly advice.
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Marquis said:Goddamnit, Netzach always gets her shit out first.
rexfelis said:I've got about a year of experience expressing My dominance, and I kept My relationship under the wire until I believed we were ready to start learning from the community.
My slave was on alt.com before she discovered that I was dominant, and we started exploring our relationship. She made contact with several other "dominants" through this channel, and when she decided she wanted to give her submission to Me, I was one of three she could have chosen at the time.
During the course of that year, there were a couple of "dominants" who decided to pester her, and continued to hound her for her submission in spite of the fact that she had informed them of being happily involved with Me. In the end, she had to move and change her cell phone number to get away from them, and even that did not completely stop them.
Tonight I find out that this entire week, she has gotten messages from yet another "dominant" who wants to steal her from Me. This ended up strengthening our relationship, because I handled it well, but it amazes Me that these so called "dominants" can have such blatant disregard for the rights of others and such little respect for relationships already in place.
These "dominants" have consistently used every low and disgusting trick they could - lies, ignoring what was said, bribery, attempts to instill fear, uncertainty and doubt, and even bordering on slander of My character.
I am writing this to express my outrage and utter disgust for these so-called "dominants", who deserve no more respect than I give a turd before I flush it. I wish I could flush them. But I am also writing to them, to tell them that they will always fail. I am good to Mine. I treat Mine well. Mine are loved and cherished, and they know that I respect them. They know I take care of them, and that I will protect them. They know I will teach them, and push them, and make them grow. They know I know them inside and out, and exactly how to handle them. They know they are safe with Me. And they know that lies and FUD and bribery and slander only reveal a slug for what it is. I have to apologize to the good, honest beer-loving garden slugs out there for comparing these "dominants" to them, but slimy is slimy.
I don't care how much money you have, how big you think your dick is, how many slaves or subs you claim to have owned, what car you drive, or how silver your tongue is... you cannot have Mine. You cannot measure up to Me as a good, moral, caring, Dominant man, and Mine know that. That is why they are Mine.
If you want a sub, or a slave, try being a real man. Try being honest. Try being caring, and understanding. Try having moral integrity. Try being respectful of others' relationships. Try learning that it's not a game, and it's not just for your dick to get wet. These are real people you're dealing with, and real hearts and minds and emotions. They deserve to be treated as such. You can't have Mine because you can't hope to offer what I do. You can't even understand what I have to offer Mine. Years of experience, you say? If you need to resort to bribery and lies and slander and FUD to hope to get someone who you don't even have the right to be talking to after being told to go away, you need to take a long look in the mirror and grow the fuck up. Mine are too good for the likes of you. They're too smart and too mature for your kind. That is why they are with men like Me in the first place.
End rant.
Marquis said:No, I did not, and neither did she. She merely hit that little button that says "delete" and went right on with her day. In person, she just doesn't give any signals of availability or interest. She did go to the movies with a male friend once who tried to kiss her and she told him in certain and unapologetic terms that that wasn't going to work out. He understood and they're still friends to this day. I even met the guy, nice kid.
O'Mac said:The real question should be why has it taken so long for these changes to be made?
Bravo!!!O'Mac said:Now taking those remarks and applying them to the issue at hand, we can ask how comitted is the OP's partner to a relationship if it's so easy to delete a collarme account or close an email address? Let's face it, in the grand scheme of how relationships work, harassing emails or instant messages can be fixed relatively easily.
The real question should be why has it taken so long for these changes to be made?
I've always, always believed that the first person a Dom has to learn to control is himself. He has to live with integrity and honesty and be personally strong. You don't just get someone to sub for you because you're lucky; you have to earn that responsibility. You have to be in charge of yourself and someone else and still have the strength to do justice to both. If he can't control himself, what hope would he have of controlling someone else?rexfelis said:If you want a sub, or a slave, try being a real man. Try being honest. Try being caring, and understanding. Try having moral integrity. Try being respectful of others' relationships. Try learning that it's not a game, and it's not just for your dick to get wet. ...
Jailhouse said:I've always, always believed that the first person a Dom has to learn to control is himself. He has to live with integrity and honesty and be personally strong. You don't just get someone to sub for you because you're lucky; you have to earn that responsibility. You have to be in charge of yourself and someone else and still have the strength to do justice to both. If he can't control himself, what hope would he have of controlling someone else?
rexfelis said:Now I feel like a real fool.
rexfelis said:<snip> I refuse to accept or play with women who are otherwise involved.<snip>
O'Mac said:Now taking those remarks and applying them to the issue at hand, we can ask how comitted is the OP's partner to a relationship if it's so easy to delete a collarme account or close an email address? Let's face it, in the grand scheme of how relationships work, harassing emails or instant messages can be fixed relatively easily.
The real question should be why has it taken so long for these changes to be made?
FurryFury said:Hey, I personally believe people are flawed creatures and the key to many things is to accept them as they are, flaws and all, and love them for themselves.
Now I don't think insecurity is the worst thing in the world. In fact, I believe it can be very useful. This particular way of expressing it isn't a deal breaker for me, necessarily.
Let's also not forget that knight in shinning armor is a lovely and widespread fantasy for many.
So if these two enjoy one another, then, IMO, they should go on enjoying one another. Nothing talked about here is to me, any thing close to an unpardonable sin.
I also happen to know just how easy it is to attract the obsessive both online and in RL. Certain professions are more dangerous in this area than others, those of service to the public and entertainment are two I've done that come to mind.
If this person is young and hasn't learned yet how best to deal with such people, I say give her a break and some time to learn.
*shrugs*
Life is hard sometimes. Experiences and willingness to learn and change is important, IMO. If you like and trust someone, don't throw them away over one thing like this.
Fury
rexfelis said:But this time, I learned a valuable lesson: Hysterical people are not going to make sense.
Turns out I got a really skewed version of what actually happened, because she was hysterical and wasn't able to think clearly. Things were much less bad than she led me to believe. The whole thing turns out to be one of her little outbursts that she does every 3-4 months to attack me because she's secretly terrified I'm leaving her or I'll hurt her like her family has done.
I've had her shut down her alt.com account and she's learning the hard way not to lead me to believe things that are not true. I do need to lear to spot it when she's pulling this shit, and shut her down without getting upset myself.
Now I feel like a real fool. But hey, thanks for your support, everyone.
I am quite secure in our relationship, and I would as soon unleash her if she was not happy. But when everything I have built over the last year comes crashing down because someone managed to play on fears I believed she had gotten past, I think it's reasonable to get upset.
Kailey_86 said:ok, here's my 2 cents.
It all boils down to respect IMO. These Doms can't respect the fact that the girl is taken. This infuriates me. To me it's just like cheating...these men seem likely to be the ones who would cheat on their women because they cannot respect the fact that this girl belongs to someone. she is in a relationship. How is anyone supposed to have a healthy relationship these days when you can't trust that your SO won't cheat on you? It's not ok. i am amazed that you are so comfortable with the idea Marquis.
Kailey_86 said:i don't think that the sub in question is at all playing RexFelis. If she is like me she probably is just too nice. i have so many guys asking me to leave my Dom. They know i am involved but continue anyway. They tell me to leave, they tell me they can do better, they are conviced that all i want is cybersex like them. i usually end up blocking them or ignoring them but it's only after they have really pushed my buttons. i tend to try and work things out first, have them understand. i have learned that this is useless. i don't even give them a chance anymore. They are guilty until proven innocent so to speak.
Kailey_86 said:Someone asked why RexFelis can have several relationships but His subs can't. That is simple. He makes the final decisions. That is His role as a Dom. If the sub isn't happy with that, they can leave. It is their choice. Do what works for you. This can be applied to so many things.
Betticus said:I may read all of this later but my first instinct upon reading the first five posts is this:
It isn't her responsibility to take care of and get rid of the other "doms" out there. It's only her responsibility to tell me when someone steps across my boundaries with her. If she isn't telling me what is going on then she doesn't fully understand me and some more communication is needed.
The other "doms" belong to me.
FurryFury said:I understand everything you've said. I also understand the insecurity driving this woman very well. The above statement bothers me though because as I understand it you are involved with more than one person. If that's the case, it seems a bit unfair to me that no woman you are with can be otherwise involved.
Fury
catalina_francisco said:Basically what I said aways back....I think the answer comes down to what I suggested, ego stroking and pleasure at the attention she gets from both supposed admirers and Dom alike. Personally I wouldn't waste time with someone who operated that way...not worth the energy or time. And perhaps the Dom in question also gets off on the whole situation and attention as any Dom I have ever known would have handled it quickly and effectively by ordering the accounts and ways of communication be closed immediately, and wanting to know why the submissive hadn't done so themselves, and why they responded to these people in any way.
Catalina