Do cuckold stories do well?

[lovecraft68]

Glad I stumbled across this thread. I find this site to be complex and difficult to navigate. Have been reading the stories off and on for years, but only recently joined so I could post.

I have posted two stories about my exhibitionist wife, Wendy. There are probably two or three more that will go in the exhibitionist category, then I thought I would tell about her further adventures in the L. W. section. After reading the comments in this thread, not so sure.

Her stories are true and are personal to us. I hesitated before I posted the first exhibitionist story because of the personal nature of her "hobby." It was well received, as was the second one. Not sure I want to open her (and me) up to negative comments by trolls about an even more personal aspect of her life.

All of the comments by email, so far, have been positive, and Wendy has been pleased with them. I certainly don't want to receive negative emails from haters about her choices in life. I guess I should read some of the posted comments in the L. W. section so I will know what to expect, if I do post in that section.

Not sure how her avatar will look as I found no guidelines or an editing tool to crop to the proper dimensions. As this is my first post, I guess I will find out how distorted it is.

Edit Note: Well, I shouldn't have worried as there is no avatar.

Welcome to the boards

You have to have 100 posts to get an avatar.

As for your post, I would stick with the exhibition category, much more receptive and mellow crowd. Fetish is also fine with some cuck material.

LW is the gathering place of women hating venom spewing impotent men. Wasn't always that way, but it has gone seriously downhill the last few years to the point its driving a lot of authors and readers who are trying to enjoy the stories away.

If you don't want to see endless comments calling your wife a whore and talking about how they would rape her or sell her in sexual slavery and how you're a cuck faggot etc...I'd stay away.

I am not exaggerating. I once received a feedback telling me they were going to hunt me down, gang rape me and pour acid into my rancid cunt as they obviously mistook me for a woman.

That is what that category consists of.

 

[AdventurousWendy]

Wow, that is vicious. I will either focus more on the exhibition part of the story, and keep it in the Exhibition section, or not post it at all.

I have done some reading about what categories "trump" other categories. It seems that shared wife categories trump the exhibitionist category, and that the moderator has the final call. That means the story may go in the L. W. category irrespective of where I place it.

I will be a long time getting to 100 posts, so Wendy's avatar will stay hidden for the foreseeable future.

Thanks for the reply.

 

[SimonDoom]

I have done some reading about what categories "trump" other categories. It seems that shared wife categories trump the exhibitionist category, and that the moderator has the final call. That means the story may go in the L. W. category irrespective of where I place it.

FYI, this is not my experience. I published a shared wife story, Slut Lessons For Scott's Wife, to the Exhibitionism category earlier this year, and it did just fine, with good views and score and minimal negative feedback from the toxic crowd. My recommendation is if you want to post it in another category make sure the story heavily emphasizes the activity of that category despite also having a shared wife focus, and I think you'll be fine where you publish it. You are MUCH less likely to get the venom that wife sharing stories in Loving Wives get. So, don't give up writing what you want to write; just be smart about where you publish it.

And, by the way, if you have a strong constitution and thick skin, you can publish these stories to Loving Wives. They will probably get more views, more comments, more favorites, and more fans if published there than anywhere else. You just have to accept the lower score and nasty vicious comments if you choose to do that.

For a good example of what I mean, check out stories by author Tomlitilia. He's published very good shared wife stories in both Loving Wives and Exhibitionism. His story Testing The Limits was published in Loving Wives, which explains why its score is only 4.48, because it's a lot better than that, but it has over 280,000 views, 157 comments, and over 500 favorites, great numbers.

On the other hand, his story the Wanton Flower, published in Exhibitionism, has a 4.80 and won a contest last summer, but it has under 100,000 views and far fewer comments and favorites. It's a tradeoff.

 

[lovecraft68]

FYI, this is not my experience. I published a shared wife story, Slut Lessons For Scott's Wife, to the Exhibitionism category earlier this year, and it did just fine, with good views and score and minimal negative feedback from the toxic crowd. My recommendation is if you want to post it in another category make sure the story heavily emphasizes the activity of that category despite also having a shared wife focus, and I think you'll be fine where you publish it. You are MUCH less likely to get the venom that wife sharing stories in Loving Wives get. So, don't give up writing what you want to write; just be smart about where you publish it.

And, by the way, if you have a strong constitution and thick skin, you can publish these stories to Loving Wives. They will probably get more views, more comments, more favorites, and more fans if published there than anywhere else. You just have to accept the lower score and nasty vicious comments if you choose to do that.

For a good example of what I mean, check out stories by author Tomlitilia. He's published very good shared wife stories in both Loving Wives and Exhibitionism. His story Testing The Limits was published in Loving Wives, which explains why its score is only 4.48, because it's a lot better than that, but it has over 280,000 views, 157 comments, and over 500 favorites, great numbers.

On the other hand, his story the Wanton Flower, published in Exhibitionism, has a 4.80 and won a contest last summer, but it has under 100,000 views and far fewer comments and favorites. It's a tradeoff.

Probably shouldn't say this(but when does that stop me) but when it comes down to the 'site editor' deciding where the story goes....well they only look a title description, tags and the category you choose, they don't do more than a bare minimal skim if even that much

So load those up with the Exhibition angle and it will never go into LW.

Now to be clear I don't suggest doing that all the time and doing things like hiding incest or non con in a romance, but when a story could go somewhere otehr than LW I suggest doing what you can to keep it in a friendlier category.

Unless of course you like the abuse.

In AdventerousWendy's case these are true stories about his wife so I'm not sure he wants to subject 'her' to the spineless scum of LW.

I have to admit, like you can't tell, I really do have a hate on for that readership...like I'd love to meet them in person hate on so I could inflict the damage on them they like to see done to women in the BTB stories

I will say it anywhere anytime and to anyone BTB stories are written by trash for trash.

 

[SimonDoom]

I have to admit, like you can't tell, I really do have a hate on for that readership...like I'd love to meet them in person hate on so I could inflict the damage on them they like to see done to women in the BTB stories

One never has to read between the lines to figure out what your likes and dislikes are.

I don't get people coming to an erotic story site and wanting to see characters punished and hurt for their sexual activity. To me, it's the opposite of erotic. I think I'm about as open-minded a Lit reader as there is, but that's the one thing I really don't get.

 

[AdventurousWendy]

Thanks for the words of advice, guys. I will focus more on the exhibition side of it as that is what Wendy primarily is.

Don't know what BTB stories are, but it doesn't sound like something Wendy or I would be interested in.

 

[SimonDoom]

Thanks for the words of advice, guys. I will focus more on the exhibition side of it as that is what Wendy primarily is.

Don't know what BTB stories are, but it doesn't sound like something Wendy or I would be interested in.

BTB means "burn the bitch." A BTB story is one in which wives who cheat get punished, and the LW troll crowd cheers.

 

[wonderlust_80]

I couldn't tell you if they do well, but I can tell you I am working on a cuckold story.
I think if its well written enough, it will connect with people. Write me if you want to go back and forth on story suggestions.

I will warn you now, my cuckold story idea has a lot of fantasy in it.

It is about a married couple, the husband has taken a job and his body has become a bit chubbier / softer. The couple seeks a sex therapist. This therapist is both bi and a shape shift , able to manifest make or female body parts. One angle on this story, is to explore how to seduce a man or woman.

 

[Valint]

BTB means "burn the bitch." A BTB story is one in which wives who cheat get punished, and the LW troll crowd cheers.

I wish people would stop misusing the word "troll".

If an author posts a racist screed in LW, and claims he's posting there deliberately to piss people off, that's a troll.

Commenters telling him to get that shit out of the category: Not trolls.

Troll doesn't mean "someone I dislike". It means someone who's posting in order to elicit a negative emotional response.

A troll isn't just an asshole, it's specifically the kind of asshole who's so desperate for attention that they'll say or do something outrageous or completely out of place, just to get attention, regardless of how negative that attention is.

 

[KeithD]

Commenters telling him to get that shit out of the category: Not trolls.

Troll doesn't mean "someone I dislike". It means someone who's posting in order to elicit a negative emotional response.

If there are a number of readers who don't agree with commenter that the story has been posted to the wrong category (just because the commenter thinks so or demands to be the arbiter of the category), then the commenter may very well be posting to elicit a "negative emotional response" to someone (the commenter) who is full of shit, and therefore qualifying as a troll.

 

[SimonDoom]

I wish people would stop misusing the word "troll".

If an author posts a racist screed in LW, and claims he's posting there deliberately to piss people off, that's a troll.

Commenters telling him to get that shit out of the category: Not trolls.

Troll doesn't mean "someone I dislike". It means someone who's posting in order to elicit a negative emotional response.

A troll isn't just an asshole, it's specifically the kind of asshole who's so desperate for attention that they'll say or do something outrageous or completely out of place, just to get attention, regardless of how negative that attention is.

The Loving Wives category is defined on the main story page as encompassing "Married extra-marital fun: swinging, sharing & more." That's what the category is about. It always has been. One can find many, many stories of this sort in this category going back many years. I think it's fair to say that a reader who doesn't understand this and uses profanity and other extreme language to try to belittle or shame or kick out authors of stories of this sort is someone who's not interested in real criticism and instead is interested in a negative emotional response -- i.e., a troll.

 

[tomlitilia]

For a good example of what I mean, check out stories by author Tomlitilia. He's published very good shared wife stories in both Loving Wives and Exhibitionism. His story Testing The Limits was published in Loving Wives, which explains why its score is only 4.48, because it's a lot better than that, but it has over 280,000 views, 157 comments, and over 500 favorites, great numbers.

On the other hand, his story the Wanton Flower, published in Exhibitionism, has a 4.80 and won a contest last summer, but it has under 100,000 views and far fewer comments and favorites. It's a tradeoff.

Always nice to be used as an illustrative example.

To continue on the path of anecdotal evidence, I once submitted a LW story (What She Deserves) to a contest. It did better than LW stories generally do, probably because regular contest readers diluted the insanity. But it got a lower score than any of my other contest entries. So I've decided to stay away from LW if I hope to place in contest, otherwise I put the stories in the categories I think they belong in.

I've understood from comments about What She Deserves that readers expect a BTB scenario, given the title. It's not, and I think the fact that it has much fewer views than my other wife sharing stories could potentially highlight that most readers stay away from BTB stories and just want some good old hotwifing

 

[LightningSeed]

I guess the big question is whether having high scores impacts your enjoyment of writing. If it is, just write a story where the wife gets punished viciously for her actions and you’ll be fine.

 

[AdventurousWendy]

I appreciate all of the feedback.

It is fairly important for us to have good scores and positive feedback as it is an affirmation of Wendy's hobby. I haven't looked today, but as of yesterday morning her first story was about 4.38. Her second story was right at 4.79. These scores validate her love of exhibitionism, as well as the role I play in her escapades.

I have gone back and looked at the 1st draft of the story I was considering putting in the LW's section to see if it would be appropriate for the Exhibition section. As there is much more than exhibitionism in that story, and based in part on the comments in this thread, I think it will need to go in the LW's section. We will just take our chances on the negative feedback that will certainly follow. But first there are other strictly exhibitionist stories about Wendy that need to be told.

 

[gordo12]

Always nice to be used as an illustrative example.

That story is an excellent example of the LW genre. It is well written and I love the slow build. I even liked better on re-reading it.

You're a good writer! I'd like to see a LOT more of similiar stories from you.

In fact there was a thread here recently on slow build stories. I've got to find it and post that one.

 

[BlinkOneSomething]

Cuckold seems to be gaining traction in porn anyway. At least for me.

Anyone that gives negative feedback with nothing constructive to say at all is just a jerk anyway. My two cents. There's all types out there, but the people who read loving wives fantasy then talk about how disgusting it is, they are just hilarious.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I see I'm a little late to this discussion, but what the hell.

I write a lot of wife sharing/loving wives/"cuckold" stories.

I have yet to write a true cuckold story. I'm not really into humiliation of the husband. What the fuck is up with that? All that shows me is the wife really never gave a shit about the poor guy she was married too. And if that's the way the man wants ti live his life, don't ever come to me with your troubles.

Are the men in my stories cuckolds? In the truest sense yes, but not by today's definition. They are cuckolds only because they allow their wives to enjoy other men while they don't enjoy other women except on occasion.

I have a lot of LW type (wife sharing, wife lovers, etc.) stories for sale and they do pretty well if found by those that like them. I would saw they are on a par with my incest stories.

Hopes this answers your question. Good luck.

 

[tomlitilia]

That story is an excellent example of the LW genre. It is well written and I love the slow build. I even liked better on re-reading it.

You're a good writer! I'd like to see a LOT more of similiar stories from you.

In fact there was a thread here recently on slow build stories. I've got to find it and post that one.

Thanks. You'd be pleased to know, then, that I have a fair few LW stories in the pipeline. I just finished a series that I will start posting as soon as I get comments back from editing.

 

[tomlitilia]

Thanks. You'd be pleased to know, then, that I have a fair few LW stories in the pipeline. I just finished a series that I will start posting as soon as I get comments back from editing.

The first chapter is up now: https://www.literotica.com/s/passing-the-torch
In terms of score, it is not doing well. But that's expected.

 

[gordo12]

The first chapter is up now: https://www.literotica.com/s/passing-the-torch
In terms of score, it is not doing well. But that's expected.

It's doing a hell of a lot better than mine is. Submitted my first LW story for the Sunburnt Country Event. You gotta love the LW readers they are a ..............
(help me here, words fail me!)

https://www.literotica.com/s/crash-15

Anyway I'm heading for your story now.

 

[DanbyDrive]

It's doing a hell of a lot better than mine is. Submitted my first LW story for the Sunburnt Country Event. You gotta love the LW readers they are a ..............
(help me here, words fail me!)

https://www.literotica.com/s/crash-15

Anyway I'm heading for your story now.

I really liked your story, Gordo, and read the comments to learn how readers responded. I 100% agree with you on your Hitchcock response. High praise to be mentioned in the same breath with him! Thanks for your great writing style. I'm learning a lot as I prepare to wade in and post my own work.

 

[gordo12]

I really liked your story, Gordo, and read the comments to learn how readers responded. I 100% agree with you on your Hitchcock response. High praise to be mentioned in the same breath with him! Thanks for your great writing style. I'm learning a lot as I prepare to wade in and post my own work.

Wow Just wow!

Thank you so much for those kind comments.

If I've learned one thing from those stories is that readers don't like sudden switches. Romance and lust seem to predicate keeping the stories in that vein or suffer the wrath of the 'how dare you' crowd.

Again thanks!

 

[yukonnights]

So many good points and great insight on this touchy subject, I'm sure I'll fail to comment on something I should!

I know for a fact that there is a readership here for cuckold stories. One need only peruse the forums and there are several on the subject. The issue of "haters" is a valid concern. I just posted a three part cuckold story and knew from previous brushes with Mr Anonymous that I would face him again. My attitude is; No one gets to use my platform to bring their negative hate to impede the enjoyment of those who need a positive story...a story that was written for them. In short, on this type of story where Mr A is expected, I watch the comments very closely and remove those that offer nothing but hate.

Anyone who writes anything that veers off of the idealized perfect heterosexual relationship, will probably have a brush with Mr Anonymous at some point. But, as has been said already, over time things settle down and the story will probably find it's point of equilibrium in both voting and comments.

I don't feel at all wrong in editing these comments. In the most recent story, I wrote a very clear introduction and warned readers of the content...and asked that they turn back now if any of this offended them. But, that's pointless when it comes to Mr A. Thus, I'm convinced that the many people who post as Anonymous only to leave their pile of vomit on a story, do not deserve my respect for their comments.
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Zeb_Carter mentioned that there is a difference in the types of cuckold stories. In general, there is the type that feature severe abuse to the cuck...and there's those that show a more realistic relationship between husband and wife that may have elements of humiliation and dominance, but are still very solid and loving marriages. (ETA- actually there's three main types; another adds the aspect of bisexuality into the mix,)

My personal opinion is that the hyper harsh ones are a reflection of the visual porn industry and do not show much reality. I personally find them boring, but many readers love them. I strive to depict relationships that at least have a hint of reality and possibility...thus, I'm with Zeb on the softer cuckold scenario...or as I once thought, the ideal story for Loving Wives

In regard to which category; I concur with what has already been said. I might add; I have submitted a Transgender themed piece in Romance that was well received. For that one, I asked the submission moderator to consider this and she honored my request. So if you think it really needs to go in a certain category, don't hesitate to at least ask. For this last Cuckold story I chose Fetish as I have noticed an uptick in threads about the subject in that forum...and it bypasses some of the vitriol in LW.

Hope any of this helps those interested in writing cuckold stories ~