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Do you believe non citizens should be allowed to vote?

In local and state elections, if the people in the state or locality want them to be able to, the yes.
 
Saint_Ann said:
From the MN website:
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That's pretty routine. Not sure what's there that bothers you? I was an elections worker in three different States (Red, Blue, and Purple) and there's nothing unusual on your link. All 50 States work like that. You pay a fee for the whole statewide voter list, or a smaller fee to narrow it down by voting precinct, Congressional district, party affiliation, etc., and the State/County sends you the data.

When I worked campaigns we'd use those lists, cross reference them against the list of early voters and Election Day turnout, and know who was left to target (read: annoy) with phone calls to get out to the polls...

The Feds should be looking at processes, not the voter rolls. There are process failures in some States, including mine: https://apnews.com/article/oregon-d...registration-183e30de6d1c454370e606245ba6fde2

That should never have happened. In the other States I lived "Motor Voter" wasn't a direct path onto the rolls. It was just a registration on a different form. It was processed the same, including citizenship/eligibility verification. Not here it seems.

If Feds were trying to get into that instead of obsessing over getting people's driver license numbers I'd be the first one to support the effort.
 
Sir_Timo_Volodok said:
That's pretty routine. Not sure what's there that bothers you? I was an elections worker in three different States (Red, Blue, and Purple) and there's nothing unusual on your link. All 50 States work like that. You pay a fee for the whole statewide voter list, or a smaller fee to narrow it down by voting precinct, Congressional district, party affiliation, etc., and the State/County sends you the data.

When I worked campaigns we'd use those lists, cross reference them against the list of early voters and Election Day turnout, and know who was left to target (read: annoy) with phone calls to get out to the polls...

The Feds should be looking at processes, not the voter rolls. There are process failures in some States, including mine: https://apnews.com/article/oregon-d...registration-183e30de6d1c454370e606245ba6fde2

That should never have happened. In the other States I lived "Motor Voter" wasn't a direct path onto the rolls. It was just a registration on a different form. It was processed the same, including citizenship/eligibility verification. Not here it seems.

If Feds were trying to get into that instead of obsessing over getting people's driver license numbers I'd be the first one to support the effort.
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The restrictions as to who can see the rolls are worded very oddly. I do not fit the requirements. Could you download them for me? Thanks in advance. :)
 
Saint_Ann said:
The restrictions as to who can see the rolls are worded very oddly.
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That's normal. 🤷‍♂️

In most locales, if you want to be a poll watcher, you have to live within the precinct. A candidate can ask one of your neighbors who supports him to observe your polling place on his behalf. He can't send someone in there from the opposite side of town.

Saint_Ann said:
I do not fit the requirements
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I'm fairly confident there are more than zero people in the state of Minnesota who support MAGA. :sneaky:
 
Permanent legal residents are in an awkward position. They can't participate in the democracy that we consider a basic part of this nation. After the illegals are deported, we could start looking at a standard time, like 7 years, when legal residents automatically become citizens.
 
Sir_Timo_Volodok said:
That's normal. 🤷‍♂️

In most locales, if you want to be a poll watcher, you have to live within the precinct. A candidate can ask one of your neighbors who supports him to observe your polling place on his behalf. He can't send someone in there from the opposite side of town.


I'm fairly confident there are more than zero people in the state of Minnesota who support MAGA. :sneaky:
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That sounds very scientific. Maybe in the cities. :)
 
Wilson23 said:
What provoked this? You KNOW noncitizens ain't voting, except in elections like NYC city elections where they are expressly allowed to.
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On Minnesota, it is policy to give drivers licenses to non-citizens. With a dl, a non-citizen can obtain a voter id. How will this not lead to voter fraud? :)
 
Saint_Ann said:
On Minnesota, it is policy to give drivers licenses to non-citizens. With a dl, a non-citizen can obtain a voter id. How will this not lead to voter fraud? :)
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You CANNOT use a driver's license to get any card saying you are legally eligible to vote when you are not.

Pubs have been hunting desperately for proof of voter fraud since 2000 at least and have failed to find ANY.
 
Wilson23 said:
You CANNOT use a driver's license to get any card saying you are legally eligible to vote when you are not.

Pubs have been hunting desperately for proof of voter fraud since 2000 at least and have failed to find ANY.
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Sure you can. :)
 
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