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Donald Trump, the Racist

TastySuckToy said:
The important thing is to ignore their attempts to assert an unproven premise, for example "Trump is racist". They then expect you to 'prove' the opposite, and if you fail in any way to successfully refute a particular point or argument, they then try to assert their original claim as 'true'.

It's the same tactic used by religious people. They assert god exists by default and demand you 'prove' he doesn't. And if you don't have an answer for every single argument they bring up, they think they by default 'win' the original claim.

Case in point:

By pointing out that adrina actually has the burden of proof for her claim that Trump is racist, her entire position falls apart and so she defaults to name calling and dropping any pretense of actual debate. Her belief Trump is racist is like a religious zealot's belief in god; it cannot be questioned and the non believers are expected to do all the work of disproving their claim.

Classic Burdern of Proof fallacy.
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well that and you were right to begin with.
 
TastySuckToy said:
It's a religious mindset. She's been told what to believe by others and she just accepts it. Never bothers to actually investigate the claim or challenge it herself.
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It’s been awhile TST.
How ya been?
How’s the penis enlargement going?
 
TastySuckToy said:
It's a religious mindset. She's been told what to believe by others and she just accepts it. Never bothers to actually investigate the claim or challenge it herself.
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Racists just don't understand judging people based on their merits and actions.
 
TastySuckToy said:
It's a religious mindset. She's been told what to believe by others and she just accepts it. Never bothers to actually investigate the claim or challenge it herself.
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TST tell your new friend I’m ignoring her because she’s proven not worthy. Lol and yeah - you can take that as a compliment to yourself.
 
TastySuckToy said:
The important thing is to ignore their attempts to assert an unproven premise, for example "Trump is racist". They then expect you to 'prove' the opposite, and if you fail in any way to successfully refute a particular point or argument, they then try to assert their original claim as 'true'.

It's the same tactic used by religious people. They assert god exists by default and demand you 'prove' he doesn't. And if you don't have an answer for every single argument they bring up, they think they by default 'win' the original claim.

Case in point:

By pointing out that adrina actually has the burden of proof for her claim that Trump is racist, her entire position falls apart and so she defaults to name calling and dropping any pretense of actual debate. Her belief Trump is racist is like a religious zealot's belief in god; it cannot be questioned and the non believers are expected to do all the work of disproving their claim.

Classic Burdern of Proof fallacy.
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I put it in my OP. Multiple documented historical examples. Feel free to dig into them if you like.

You can address the points or be an idiot.

Something tells me you'll choose the latter.
 
adrina said:
You're the idiot getting their jollies on a porn site political forum.

I can't imagine how dull your life must be.

T&P
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You're getting the idea, Adrina. Now cut the seriousness and make it funny as well. You want to aim to make your point and have anyone who reads it, left, right, or pixie dust, snort their coffee thru their nose.
 
ChloeTzang said:
You're getting the idea, Adrina. Now cut the seriousness and make it funny as well. You want to aim to make your point and have anyone who reads it, left, right, or pixie dust, snort their coffee thru their nose.
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So Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang is a PATHETIC racist, bigoted, fascist POS then.

I’m glad Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang cleared that up…

👍

👉 Chloe “Chicongo”Tzang 🤣

🇺🇸
 
adrina said:
Okay, @glamorilla it's your turn.

Defend Donald Trump as not being racist in light of every one of these events and quotes. No deflection, no whataboutism. Just looking at these events and quotes, you can even research them if you want - but all of the are verified and documented. None are out of context nor cherry picked.

1970s - Trump being charged by DOJ for housing discrimination. Twice.

1980s - Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, accused another one of Trump’s businesses of discrimination. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor, Brown said. “It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back.”

1980s - Central Park Five

1990s - “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.”

1990s - The Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino had to pay a $200,000 fine because it transferred Black and women dealers off tables to accommodate a big-time gambler’s prejudices.

2000s - on Apprentice, Trump wanted the black man who won to share his title with the white woman runner up.

2010s - Birtherism

https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history

Anyone can play, but the invite goes out to @glamorilla

I'm sure you can explain these. Right?
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I’m no expert on Trump, nor US politics, but this list is a bit tenuous don’t you think ? He, as an individual, seems a bit distant from most of the above. It’s corporate stuff, and not untypical in its time either.

The 90s one, the “black guys are lazy” line, is the most obviously damning.
 
BabyBoomer50s said:
Did someone hack your account or did you really post this yourself?
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🙄

NOT the "gotcha moment" flex BabyBoobs thinks it is.

😑

There are those here who take politics (and the repercussions of policies) seriously:

So, NOT “getting their“jollies”.

Hope that ^ helps.

👍

👉 BabyBoobs 🤣

🇺🇸
 
ShandyLeer said:
I’m no expert on Trump, nor US politics, but this list is a bit tenuous don’t you think ? He, as an individual, seems a bit distant from most of the above. It’s corporate stuff, and not untypical in its time either.

The 90s one, the “black guys are lazy” line, is the most obviously damning.
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Tenuous? How so. It shows a long and storied history of anti-black behaviors which clearly point to a racial bias.

Several DOJ investigations and penalties for racist rental practices is a huge problem. Look into them. They are pretty vile.

And honestly excusing his racist behavior by saying "everyone was racist then" isn't proving that he isn't a racist.
 
ChloeTzang said:
See. I snorted my coffee. THAT is how it's done. Linguistic jiu-jitsu!!!!

Well done that man!
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Sigh.
Yet another example of you pandering.
Whether it’s wat, RG, or now babyboo - white male privilege isn’t really transferred from cock to Asian mouth.
But you get an A+ for effort.
 
MajorRewrite said:
Excellent example of the most common racist defense: “I was joking!”

Trump has tried that several times.
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MAGAts, like Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang imitate everything Trump does. It’s their way of flattering their orange lord and savior.

😑
 
ShandyLeer said:
I’m no expert on Trump, nor US politics, but this list is a bit tenuous don’t you think ? He, as an individual, seems a bit distant from most of the above. It’s corporate stuff, and not untypical in its time either.

The 90s one, the “black guys are lazy” line, is the most obviously damning.
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Well how about convicted felon Donald J Trump's recent remarks that undocumented aliens are taking ....direct quote here...."the black jobs"....unquote.

Can you tell me what you guys consider a "black job"?
 
More deflection and whataboutism.

Shit darlin' you're failing hard.

I'm sorry you can't defend your candidate. :nana:
 
It’s the over reach I think Dems should beware of Adrina.

It’s not a competition to build the biggest rap sheet. It’s about making stuff, damaging stuff, stick.

Assuming your quote was accurate re his comments about laziness then there you have a live one. It has mileage.

If you pad it out with indirect fire - stuff relating to how a sleazy slum landlord business used to be run, gossip about a reality show competitors prize - I just think the issue is diluted, the point missed and your target off the hook.
 
RobDownSouth said:
Well how about convicted felon Donald J Trump's recent remarks that undocumented aliens are taking ....direct quote here...."the black jobs"....unquote.

Can you tell me what you guys consider a "black job"?
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I hate that you’re experiencing now what this sea lioning member is all about. My friendly advice would be to cut this person off now. 🥰
 
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