dubious honor: my story was stolen!

[Aurora Black]

I find single lines/passage of mine insterted into the middle of other ( probably stolen ) stories on those ridiculous "blogs" that are nothing but huge advertisements for pay porn sites all the time.

It's weird... a line from my fantasy world story will be dead in the middle of a real world beach story. These people are not only thieves, they obviously ate large quantities of lead paint chips in their youth.

( Not quite enough of them, however )

"If only their mothers had swallowed."

 

[Darkniciad]

"If only their mother had swallowed."

The best lines all deserve repeating

It does hit harder in my voice though. I really need to record one of the LST3Ks as an audio story

 

[Guest]

spam/spoof

I find single lines/passage of mine insterted into the middle of other ( probably stolen ) stories on those ridiculous "blogs" that are nothing but huge advertisements for pay porn sites all the time.

It's weird... a line from my fantasy world story will be dead in the middle of a real world beach story. These people are not only thieves, they obviously ate large quantities of lead paint chips in their youth.

( Not quite enough of them, however )

Those are used to prevent automatic span/spoofing engines from

a) declaring that the entire site is spoof: it would be nothing for even a personal computer to compare story to story with lit and declate the entire site spoof. If they post these mix ups, then the site looks like it has some "original" content.

b) declaring that a mail message is spam: most of the spam that manages to break through my employers increasingly expensive smap filters, are those who contain "content" from original work. Which means that out stories might be soon coming to mailboxes everywhere. I must have got the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy already in my mailbox, snippet by snippet.


And you know, there is GOOD stuff in lit.

Edit 1: Though to think of Zoraster in the beach. Does not do it for me. How can he be dead?


Maharat

 

[Darkniciad]

Three more. That makes a total of six sites this cretin has up full of stolen Lit stories - stealing more every day. If your stuff isn't on this fuckwit's site, it will be soon.

Think it's about time we started adding a submissions page link to the top of every story we post. At least that way, this direct-cut-and-paste asshole will be linking back to our author page and people will know the whole lot is stolen...

http://beingfucked.com
http://pornvids.org
http://xxlpenis.com
http://sexvids.org
http://starznaked.com
http://sex-cinema.net

 

[gargouille]

I don't have any stories on Lit yet, but I've had several others ripped off from other sites. So what I've done is edit all my stories (long night last night!) and include a link at the top to my author pages on the sites themselves. I also changed my commentary to say:

"Thanks for reading my work. I hope you enjoyed it. If you read this story or followed this link from any site aside from ThisURL.com you should know that the story was stolen. If you're considering buying product or passes from this site, perhaps you should bear their innate dishonesty in mind before giving your credit card information. If you're interested in more stories like mine, please visit ThisURL.com."

 

[mrbaddaddy]

Revenge of the LiteroNerds

.....

 

[TxRad]

All these sites seem to be down now and produce a Wordpress error. Somebody prevailed! Nice work, team.

No they are not... they are up and running as of right now....

 

[Darkniciad]

No they are not... they are up and running as of right now....

Yeppers, they regularly go down with that Wordpress error. It's probably when they're being updated or something. They go down with fair regularity and then come back up.

 

[Harrowborg]

I've had ANOTHER one stolen recently.

http://hotlesbiansex.blogbugs.org/1283/Hot-Flight:-Lesbian-Tale.html

look, they even had the good grace to leave my lit. name attached to it and the link for the sequel i still haven't written. strange ilk

am i bothered? sure, but its a free site and as long as someone can just copy and paste whats been written then nothing will change.

 

[Darkniciad]

I've had ANOTHER one stolen recently.

http://hotlesbiansex.blogbugs.org/1283/Hot-Flight:-Lesbian-Tale.html

look, they even had the good grace to leave my lit. name attached to it and the link for the sequel i still haven't written. strange ilk

am i bothered? sure, but its a free site and as long as someone can just copy and paste whats been written then nothing will change.

I've found that when a place leaves your name and links to the original location, there's about a 90% chance they'll remove your story immediately if you ask.

 

[Harrowborg]

I've found that when a place leaves your name and links to the original location, there's about a 90% chance they'll remove your story immediately if you ask.

yeah, thing is, you click or try and find the admin. of those type of websites and you'll get a million pop ups and probably a few dozen viruses in your pc before you even get a contact number for their hosts in yemin or something

 

[slyc_willie]

Quick Workers

I've only been posting stories in Lit for one month, and I already found one of mine on an MSN Group bulletin board, with some thief named Alexdevan claiming credit. I blasted him an e-mail and his group vanished.

Seems like the trolls are digging their tunnels all over the place . . . .

 

[Athena_e19]

I was curious after reading this thread if any of my stories ever warranted theft.

Apparently my "For the Love of Botany" series is popular- at least 3 sites had copies of the stories and only one recognized me as the author. The other two had others claiming to be me!

Also, my "XXXanth Novels" which are in a way a pick up of Piers Anthony's Xanth novels were copied all over the place.

I also discovered that I received a brief shot from Mr. Anthony himself on his personal webpage. I will admit I was more flattered that he read them than anything. It didn't seem like he was impressed with my writing, however.

 

[FallingToFly]

If anyone ever sees any of my stuff up somewhere, willyou please PM me? I can post a list of titles, but I doubt anyone would steal my stuff...

 

[FallingToFly]

The bastards stole Colleen Thomas' "The Furies."

It's listed in the October 2006 archives.

And I lied... the sex-cinema one stole Ch. 1 of Ties That Bind...

 

[Athena_e19]

My stories are posted:

www.javnow.com
www.bestfantasies.com
www.fantasyhandjobs.com
www.sexstoryxxx.org

It seems there are a bunch of Blogspot journals and .info pages that also have them.

 

[Darkniciad]

My stories are posted:

www.javnow.com
www.bestfantasies.com
www.fantasyhandjobs.com
www.sexstoryxxx.org

It seems there are a bunch of Blogspot journals and .info pages that also have them.

The first and third must have the stories entirely behind the member's section, because there is no evidence of them in the teasers. The second at least lets you see a short bit of it, so people might be able to see if their story is there stolen.

The fourth one has been reported for quite some time. That jackass has a server in China, and that makes it especially hard to knock him down. It is one of three sites he has displaying stolen stories.

 

[Aurora Black]

The bastards stole Colleen Thomas' "The Furies."

It's listed in the October 2006 archives.

Those fuckers.

 

[FallingToFly]

Those fuckers.

They have Carnival as well.

 

[Darkniciad]

I just submitted my latest with the newest addition to my ever-sprawling Author's notes, including a link to my Lit submissions page and a note that "if you see this and you aren't at Lit, this story is posted without my permission."

Considering the "beingfucked" moron just cut and pastes everything, at least there will be a link back and a notification that he's a thieving shitpile if he steals any more of my stuff.

 

[FallingToFly]

I just submitted my latest with the newest addition to my ever-sprawling Author's notes, including a link to my Lit submissions page and a note that "if you see this and you aren't at Lit, this story is posted without my permission."

Considering the "beingfucked" moron just cut and pastes everything, at least there will be a link back and a notification that he's a thieving shitpile if he steals any more of my stuff.

I think I may have to do the same.
*sighs*

 

[SimonBrooke]

Thinking about copying and copyright...

Stories of mine have been around the net so long they turn up in odd places. Mostly I don't mind that much. Sometimes I really, really do, particularly when my work is being used to promote stuff I find repugnant. And sooner or later some scammy publisher is going to start making money republishing our stories, and that I do care about.

There are three things Literotica /could/ do about this. I'm not saying Literotica should, because all involve work, but all could be done.

The first is to implement the Robot Exclusion protocol on all the Literotica sites. Currently there is no http://www.literotica.com/robots.txt or http://english.literotica.com/robots.txt. Obviously, screen-scraping content thieves are unlikely to respect the robot exclusion protocol, but seeing they're probably not very sophisticated and probably using toolkits to build their scrapers, it's possible that the tools they use will. It's not much of a barrier but it would only take ten minutes to do so it may be worth it. E.g:

--------------- cut here --------------
# robots.txt for http://english.literotica.com/

User-agent: *
Disallow: /stories/* # robots aren't welcome to read stories
--------------- cut here --------------

The next is to check that, when stories are uploaded, they aren't already out there. An automatic test for this would be to take three complete sentences out of the story at random and try them on Google. This isn't a perfect test because Google obeys the Robot Exclusion protocol, and so it's fairly easy to hide stuff from it. However, if all three sentences show up in a Google search - particularly if all three show up in the same place(s) - it's highly likely the story isn't original, and so Literotica might either automatically reject it or else at least ask the author about the other copies.

The final one is to act as effectively an informal copyright repository. I don't know on what schedule Literotica keeps backups, but I do know it timestamps stories when they are published because those timestamps are visible on your 'submissions' page. A lot of copyright cases boil down to proving who had the text first. If literotica were prepared to issue, perhaps for a fee, a formal letter certifying that a given story was published on the site on a given date, then that could be a powerful weapon to wave at scammers.

 

[FallingToFly]

"A Wood, East of Traffordshire" has been stolen.

This is ridiculous- someone tell me how to find the site registration info on these sites, would you?

 

[SimonBrooke]

whois

"A Wood, East of Traffordshire" has been stolen.

This is ridiculous- someone tell me how to find the site registration info on these sites, would you?

There's an internet service called 'whois'. If you have a UNIX or Linux computer you can access it directly; if you're on a Windows box you'll need to go through a Web gateway, such as

http://www.geektools.com/whois.php
http://www.internic.net/whois.html

Beware, though - many of the 'whois' sites out there are pretty scammy themselves. One of the common tricks is that if you try a series of names to find on that's still available, and then try and buy it, you'll find it's been bought two minutes before - by the owners of the whois tool you used. I think that the two I've suggested above are reasonably safe.

 

[snowy ciara]

The next is to check that, when stories are uploaded, they aren't already out there. An automatic test for this would be to take three complete sentences out of the story at random and try them on Google. This isn't a perfect test because Google obeys the Robot Exclusion protocol, and so it's fairly easy to hide stuff from it. However, if all three sentences show up in a Google search - particularly if all three show up in the same place(s) - it's highly likely the story isn't original, and so Literotica might either automatically reject it or else at least ask the author about the other copies.

The problem isn't really Lit authors ripping tales from elsewhere, it's the elsewhere's ripping stories from us. I'm sure that there have been cases where someone's tried to slip one through, but it doesn't seem to happen as often here. I was told when I first asked an author about submitting (several years ago) that they do something similar to this.

That being said, my stories from here have been ripped and ended up on a fanfic site for the series it was based on. Their excuse was that they appeared on a porn site first so apparently it was okay. Their ISP took the site down. Apparently they were wrong.