Edge Play And Endorphins.

willfulbrat said:
I just have to add one more thing: Sometimes we do accept pain just to please our Dominants, and that's okay, as long as the relationship is positive in other ways and doesn't leave you feeling abused and worthless. *hugs*
 
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my answer to all this is,..I guess,...is the fact that everything...I do,..in life is pretty much typically very cold, and calculating. and yes it stems from..a> the ole' man--
b> the service b> from trama induced situations..ergo/ie--when the 'ole man committed suicide with the shotgun and "I" was the one cleaned up the damn mess....
there is little in my life that is not calculated to the last detail before hand...
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anyway...\
hey,..maybe then..."I" never will...find this stuff you folks are talking about then. maybe,.."I"..ain't...wired that way.
but then...all of you..are talking some sort of mental release??/
uh uh.."I" am wired so hard "I" do not //have not//allowed..myself any types of release....from reality.
guess "I" am too-grounded....

and this is....acceptable to me.
thank you for the clean cut concise explainations.

you were all helpful...

thank you thank you....

mad dog in iowa....
may the road rise up softly under your feet.....
 
james blandings

good day to you sir james....
I had an experience today...I hope....is close to what I seek.

I was performing my clothespin lesson for my Mistress today....although a bit late....and about 5 minutres before the hour was due to end....I got a light headed feeling...my ears started to ring...and I got a head rush like I used to do when I was a kid doing speed....my vision got a bit foggy but I could see well enough...felt like my eyes were changing...and then I had a very small headache after it was all over...I felt light as air.

now,..is this close to the endorphin rush you all have talked about it? did I make it???


mad dog...typing standing up no less....
 
maddog: It sounds to me like you've found at *least* the first inklings of your endorphin high. How excellent that it's starting to come together for you!

Now, having had this somewhat different experience, how do you feel? Are you more hopeful that this all might *work* for you? How did you feel in the minutes/hours afterward? Did you continue to feel high, gently drifting back down, or did you suddenly come crashing out of the high? Now is when you (and by extension, we) start working on refining the experience, making it maximally exciting and enervating for you, etc.

And, I don't mean to pry--so please forgive me if I'm asking intrusive questions. I mean to be helpful, to encourage. Don't feel obligated to respond, of course, if it makes you uncomfortable.

But, congratulations on finally seeing your perseverance (and trust in your Domme) start to pay off.

Best,
Risia
 
RisiaSkye..such a fine Lady

maddog: It sounds to me like you've found at *least* the first inklings of your endorphin high. How excellent that it's starting to come together for you!

Now, having had this somewhat different experience, how do you feel? Are you more hopeful that this all might *work* for you? How did you feel in the minutes/hours afterward? Did you continue to feel high, gently drifting back down, or did you suddenly come crashing out of the high? Now is when you (and by extension, we) start working on refining the experience, making it maximally exciting and enervating for you, etc.

And, I don't mean to pry--so please forgive me if I'm asking intrusive questions. I mean to be helpful, to encourage. Don't feel obligated to respond, of course, if it makes you uncomfortable.

But, congratulations on finally seeing your perseverance (and trust in your Domme) start to pay off.

Best,
Risia

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someone beat me to it...you should be cloned!!!!
 
Re: james blandings

iamaddog said:
good day to you sir james....
I had an experience today...I hope....is close to what I seek.

I was performing my clothespin lesson for my Mistress today....although a bit late....and about 5 minutres before the hour was due to end....I got a light headed feeling...my ears started to ring...and I got a head rush like I used to do when I was a kid doing speed....my vision got a bit foggy but I could see well enough...felt like my eyes were changing...and then I had a very small headache after it was all over...I felt light as air.

now,..is this close to the endorphin rush you all have talked about it? did I make it???


mad dog...typing standing up no less....

It may have been, mad dog. To me, the feeling afterwards is almost like being drunk. It's hard to say yes, you have felt it, because it doesnt feel the same to everyone.
 
ENDORPHINS OF BREATH CONTROLE

willfulbrat said:
That is scary, pierced_boy. The first time I felt that euphoria I was hooked. And when I'm in a scene I never want to stop, my Dom is always the one to tell me I've had enough. You've given me something to think about.
TAKE MY BREATH AWAY[/SIZ] EXTREMELY ADDICTIVE AND BEST PRACTICED WITH THE BEST OF COMPANY. LONLEY HEARTS NEED THAT MOST RARE OF KINDNESSES. BUT WHERE IS IT TO BE FOUND?:rolleyes:
 
Re: ENDORPHINS OF BREATH CONTROLE

JEURGAN said:
TAKE MY BREATH AWAY[/SIZ] EXTREMELY ADDICTIVE AND BEST PRACTICED WITH THE BEST OF COMPANY. LONLEY HEARTS NEED THAT MOST RARE OF KINDNESSES. BUT WHERE IS IT TO BE FOUND?:rolleyes:
 
The joy can also be experienced by cutting circulation to the brain after all that is basically the same result just quicker to achive and less dangerous. The blood flow resumes when you release and the brain receives oxygen. You subs who wish to experience this high should consider this but you must set the limits and trust your dom. No trust, no play! :D
 
Mr Wolf said:
The joy can also be experienced by cutting circulation to the brain after all that is basically the same result just quicker to achive and less dangerous. The blood flow resumes when you release and the brain receives oxygen. You subs who wish to experience this high should consider this but you must set the limits and trust your dom. No trust, no play! :D

One of my friends in high school died trying that alone in the shower. Never, ever do this to yourself.

And as someone who's been "choked out", the high doesn't last as long as it does from pain. Maybe I just wasn't out long enough?
 
Autoerotic asphyxiation was dealt with on Six Feet Under last night. While I confess that the idea of breath contol has an element that I find enticing, I think it is something I prefer to leave as a fantasy.
 
Re: Very Addictive

Unregistered said:
For me, it's often like another existence. I am aware of what's happening to my body, but remotely, as if i exist outside myself. Around me is quiet and incredible lightness of being. I'm infused with a bubbling gladness and well-being that i've never experienced in any other way. The most intense and powerful orgasm i've ever had, for an example, is no match at all for this headspace.

It's incredibly addictive.
Once you've been there, you want to go again.
:rose:

That is how i feel as well. i feel as though i am not in touch with myself at all. i know that it is not very long after i come back down that i feel i need it again. my Dom takes me to places that i would never thought i could go, and also i felt that kind of "high" would be impossible to obtain from a good spanking, the crop or the mind games. i know i am going to bring up a very touchy subject here, but the breath control is a big high for me. If someone were to just tell me about this kind of play and this kind of high without first hand experiance i would think they were crazy. i just have no words to say how incredible it is, how i crave, desire and need it. It keeps me going.

Needle play, now that really scares me. :( [/B][/QUOTE] NOW MANY YEARS INTO THIS MUCH CONDEMED PRACTICE I AGREE WITH EVERYONE. ESPECIALY THOSE TO WHOM THE INTENSITY OF THE ORGASTIC EXPERIENCE IS UNRIVILED, ADDICTIVE, AND IN A TRUE YING YANG WAY ACTUALY DECREASES THE RISKY BEHAVIORS {ie. BUNGE JUMPING AND IMPULSIVE HIGH ADRENALIN GAMES] OUT SIDE OF SEX AND THE BEDROOM.
 
Re: ENDORPHINS OF BREATH CONTROLE

JEURGAN said:
TAKE MY BREATH AWAY[/SIZ] EXTREMELY ADDICTIVE AND BEST PRACTICED WITH THE BEST OF COMPANY. LONLEY HEARTS NEED THAT MOST RARE OF KINDNESSES. BUT WHERE IS IT TO BE FOUND?:rolleyes:


It is rare, but I wish you all the best in finding it soon. Munches and bdsm clubs are a good place to meet people. :)
 
willfulbrat said:


One of my friends in high school died trying that alone in the shower. Never, ever do this to yourself.

And as someone who's been "choked out", the high doesn't last as long as it does from pain. Maybe I just wasn't out long enough?

Choking is not the best way or the safest way, applying pressure to the cartroid arteries will achieve this and does not harm the passage of air to the lungs. Yet as you rightly say do not play alone as there is no safety net so to speak.:kiss:
 
Doing breath play is getting right up to the SSC limit, maybe past it. Some people say it is never safe.
I've done a bit of it in my time, some noose play, nitrous, cock choking. So I cant say that others should not, but I would emphasize how dangerous it is. If you are interested in breath play, find someone experienced to do it with, and please, listen to willfulbrat- dont ever do it alone.
 
Re: James your thoughts echo mine

pierced_boy said:
I wonder if people who crave this activity and the results have analysed why. Maybe the need can be addressed in a more sane and safe way. We want to see you folk around not undergroung

H

Some people seek higher and higher levels of intensity. To others, fear is a turn on. To others, the fact that the activity is dangerous means a chance to demonstrate how great the trust in their relationship is. Most people who do it probably don't analyze it that much, they just know it is a turnon.
Many years ago, I allowed a master to hang me, while he stroked my cock to orgasm. The deal was that he would release me when I came. It was an extremely dangerous scene, and it was foolish of me to participate, but I have to admit it was an enormous turn on, so much so that I was only in the noose for a minute or so. My brian was totally overcome by the physicla situation. The feeling was of total helplessness, and an enormous adrenaline rush. I can certainly see why someone could become hooked on it, but as far as analyzing more motive to it, it is still a mystery to me.
 
Re: Despite my stance here and my own logic

pierced_boy said:
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...it is not like I have not done out there things. I have invited a person to poke a 10g cutting needle through the head of my dick, no anesthesia, just lie still and make it happen. The power of this experince is huge. I have gone back for more. Five times. Will do it again. Some of you would understand this some are going pale. I have used a 16.5g (about 12 g jewllery) vet hypo needle on myself....

This thread has caused me much angst but if you all believe in SSC then you wil understand my continued call to caution.

H

There are some who would question the Sanity of one having a 10g cutting needle through the head of his dick -- and not just once, but five times. ;)

:kiss:
 
Gone to long.

WoW, it seems i have not checked in for a long time being all the catching up i have to do on this thread. i have missed a lot once again. ***the story of my life*** :D



:rose: broken_halo:rose:
 
The rush i felt in being repeatedly pierced (usually 14 g needles, sometimes 12, once or twice 10) was unlike the rush i felt doing any other kinda edgy play with anyone else at any other time in my life.

I knew it would hurt.
At the beginning.
I knew i dreaded it as much as i craved it.
Until he got started.

And then i slid into the headspace...that deeply receptive, wide-open, calm, joyous, fundamentally erotic headspace...and i laughed at the insignificant prinkings of pain, his needles pushing through my nipples, through my labia, through my clit hood, needle after needle after needle, sometimes many in a single session.

Adrenaline rush, indeed.
 
i will leave the needles to the experts...give me a good, long spanking anytime:). i have had different experiences with sub-space...the first being the astral projection, floaty kind...but since then has been more of an insulated feeling. My body feels the pain but it stops registering as "owww" to "oohhh...mmmm." My orgasms in this state are alot different too...rather than the climbing/exposion...i feel as if they are torn from me...no up...just THERE! i am also left incoherent for a few minutes, which tends to worry my Master...

Now...i am curious as to what sort of highs Masters/Mistresses experience from the other side?
 
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