WastelandVoice
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First of all, you have to understand that people might not want to talk to you.Hey lets look at the facts here in this, (again vague as all hell) scenario- a FEMALE co-worker offered sex to a male co-worker to keep him quiet over her doing a shitty job. Okay- a shitty idea, a shitty deal. Do I blame the male for it? Absolutely. He should have known better. But in that snippet that the OP gives us it doesn't tell us that the male was the boss, the supervisor, the manager, etc- just a male co-worker, perhaps an equal. And the fact that the OP says she offered him sex to keep quiet over quote: "whatever" doesn't seem to indicate this was an actual case or an actual idea- just a random scenario.
In EVERY SINGLE ONE of these cases (and I use the phrase "cases" loosely becasue we are given no real insight into any of these scenarios, if they are actual cases or just BS constructs created to make a point) you can blame the woman for it. In every single one of these cases the WOMAN is the instigator in a seemingly obvious case of "her fault and she's covering it up somehow by crying rape after the fact."
Look, I know these things DO happen. I know rape DOES happen, and I'm not denying that people in a position of authority or power will sometimes abuse that power and use it to their own sexually devant ends. But THIS post does not give us anything. This post does not SHOW us anything. This post only gives us an apparently hypothetical, perhaps fictional, and a no-details view of alleged cases in which coersion was a factor.
Get back to me and tell me the specifics and details of each case and THEN we can talk.
Well, the difference is that she CHOSE to fuck the one guy, but HAD to suck OP's dick.It would be my guess that girl was probably a pretty easy slut anyway and did not mind sucking the OP's cock. She was cheating on her SO already.
First of all, you have to understand that people might not want to talk to you.
Second, you are hardly able to enforce your demands for academic rigor-- it's a fetish forum.
Thirdly, the specifics are hardly significant. The fact is that to one degree or another, these examples all represent moments in which women have had to use their sex as a bargaining point. You can tell that they HAD to, because they did. For far too many women, that's the only chip we've got. It doesn't matter if you feel filled with righteous indignation about the circumstances that got them there. Op's original example, I think the girl was a total bimbo to be fucking around where she could have gotten caught. That isn't the point.
Well, the difference is that she CHOSE to fuck the one guy, but HAD to suck OP's dick.
It would be my guess that girl was probably a pretty easy slut anyway and did not mind sucking the OP's cock. She was cheating on her SO already.
No, actually she chose to make a deal with the OP.
So because she is a "slut" it is okay to rape her?
You're a piece of work dude. Typical ignorant remark. You make your parents proud.
Rape is not all about physical force. She felt compelled to suck the dudes cock because as he indicated it was a blackmail situation. If this dude was any kind of man at all he would of gone straight to his good friend. But rapist rarely do that you know.
He joked about it. Doesn't say that she ever did...
Every woman in the world is "close to a rape victim." it could be her, with one step into the wrong street, or if she catches the eye of the wrong ...
wait for it...
man.
If men were that vulnerable to rape, we would see a whole lot more awareness amongst men of those nuances.
Thank you for sharing, too!And if men could easily get penis enlargements as easy as women can get breast implants, we'd all be walking around like John Holmes.
It's an oddball thought I needed to share.
If men were that vulnerable to rape, we would see a whole lot more awareness amongst men of those nuances.
yes, I'm sure. So one guy wants to rape another guy, because that's just the way it goes in this thought experiment-- and it would all depend on who pulls their gun first, I suppose.If men were that vulnerable to rape, we would all be walking around with side arms.
First of all, you have to understand that people might not want to talk to you.
Second, you are hardly able to enforce your demands for academic rigor-- it's a fetish forum.
Thirdly, the specifics are hardly significant. The fact is that to one degree or another, these examples all represent moments in which women have had to use their sex as a bargaining point. You can tell that they HAD to, because they did. For far too many women, that's the only chip we've got. It doesn't matter if you feel filled with righteous indignation about the circumstances that got them there. Op's original example, I think the girl was a total bimbo to be fucking around where she could have gotten caught. That isn't the point.
Well, the difference is that she CHOSE to fuck the one guy, but HAD to suck OP's dick.
Wow....this thread took a wrong turn right from the start! it coulda been fun......but then again. ...I have rape fantasies.....and i love a man in uniform....i.e.....authority figures.....so i guess that's where the fantasy comes from of me screwing my way out of a traffic ticket on the side of a deserted road.......i just love the thought of having weakening someone with power to their knees.........so i guess that's a combo of rape...authority figure....uniform...and semi-public place...what can i say, i like to multi task
That's something worth dedicating a little time and imagination to...
If only I had a willing officer
First- Whatever. I'm used to people resisting my genius.
Second/Third- You can't have it both ways. You can't say "oh this is a fetish forum so the specifics and details aren't important" and in the same breath cite these examples as fact and make your argument based on them.
Yes, these are examples that represent moments in which women have used their sex as a bargaining point but they are not REAL examples. They are not examples where women have HAD to use sex as a bargaining point because in every single example cited I would say that the woman is the one who instigated and MADE sex a point and an issue whereas the male, in each example, did not even bring it up! In each example it says the woman offered sex, the woman came on to him, the woman offered sex, etc, etc, etc, etc and so forth. Nowhere in these vague examples does it say the man demanded, ordered, or threatened if sex was not provided.
Maybe they are BASED off of real examples or real circumstances but in every single one of them I can make the argument that the woman was the instigator and not the male. So step off the BS that the women in these vague, hypothetical situations were somehow FORCED into doing what they did and had no other option. All of these examples are bullshit.
YES- It does happen that women are sometimes forced into using sex as a bargaining chip and that is terrible and it should not happen and I HATE any man who would use that to his advantage- ESPECIALLY one who is supposedly in a position of authority and/or trust, safety.
But you cannot provide a two sentance, vague scenario, and present it as a factual representation of things when in fact it is just a vague construct presented to prove your point.
I personally know a man who, doing nothing but minding his own business, grabbed a woman on the street, pulled her back onto the sidewalk because she was about to be hit by a car... That man? He's now a registered sex offender because of that incident. He saves the woman's life by grabbing her and pulling her out of the street... and now he's a sex offender because of that situation... How stupid is that? She decided that it didn't matter that he saved her life but rather chose to file charges against him because she didn't want to be touched- and no, he did not grab her anywhere inappropriate- he just grabbed her about the shoulders and pulled her back.
Where's the justice in that? Answer: There is none. That is stupid.
Here's my point: If you want to give solid examples of a situation in which these terrible things happen- go right ahead. But don't say "oh this guy and this girl and this situation and this happened cuz I say so" because that doesn't help. That does nothing. Give me REAL situations, REAL scenarios, REAL court cases, REAL news stories about these things... And you know what? I will agree with you and back you up every step of the way.
I do not, in any way deny that these things happen- they do. And when they do the men should be held accountable for their despicable actions... but vague, no detail examples that ambiguously place the women at fault do not support your point nor do they help the REAL women who are affected and stricken with this problem.
And again, the OP was simply asking if anyone had ever used sex to get out of trouble- not to debate on the morality or the legality of the actions. I have to belive the intention was to get somd steamy stories about women using sex to get out of bad situations- not to debate the reasoning or morality of the situations.
Let me be clear- Any man who is in a position of authority or power who uses his position to rape or take advantage of women- is an asshole. And one who should be arrested, prosecuted, and dare I say (in the most extreme examples) killed- because he's a filthy, dirty person who is devoid of any sort of basic human decency and kindness.
Well, well, well genius. Let us play by your rules. Please state the case number and provide us with a certified stenographers copy of the trial so we can render our own opinion.
Actually never mind, now your ire is all so clear. You are friends with sex offenders.
Well, well, well genius. Let us play by your rules. Please state the case number and provide us with a certified stenographers copy of the trial so we can render our own opinion.
Actually never mind, now your ire is all so clear. You are friends with sex offenders.
I'm not defending the "genius" here but the challenge was there so I googled around a little bit and didn't find this tragic case of misjustice but I did find this
MAN RESTRAINS MINOR TO LECTURE HER AND BECOMES A REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER
So I'll join VBM in calling bullshit on becoming a sex offender while saving a woman's life but if the above link is any indication, there is a possibility of a miscarriage of justice
yes, I'm sure. So one guy wants to rape another guy, because that's just the way it goes in this thought experiment-- and it would all depend on who pulls their gun first, I suppose.
Well, that would take care of a big chunk of the overpopulation problem, anyway.
And the undertakers would do a booming business.