Face Spitting

to raw:

i don't have a "PYL" and i am not a "pyl".

but were i bottoming, the answer is yes, if directed. (isn't that what 'bottoming' is all about? ;) )

you? anyone?

:rose:

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raw asked,
open your mouth ... ?
 
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Pure said:
i don't have a "PYL" and i am not a "pyl".

but were i bottoming, the answer is yes, if directed. (isn't that what 'bottoming' is all about? ;) )

you? anyone?

:rose:

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raw asked,
open your mouth ... ?

I didn't mean if someone were asked/ordered to open their mouth.

I meant that, you're in the heat of the moment, and you see him/her about to spit in your face (you see it in his/her face what's about to happen to you), would you open your mouth to receive it out of adoration/masochism/whatever?
 
i guess, were i bottoming and *did not see it as inconsistent with the wishes of the top*, the answer is 'possibly, yes.'

were the wishes of the top reasonably clear, and contrary to this, 'no.'
for example, were the top to say, "i am going to spit until your face is covered in it", there clearly attempting to divert or swallow is NOT part of the enactment.

were i topping, this is the sort of behavior i would expect; so that's my analysis, in either direction.

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by the way, in case you're implying it, i don't see 'orders' as a big issues, as opposed to 'requests' or simple 'asking' ("would you..."); for orders to not cause compliance or take away the voluntary aspect, which seems to be what you're asking above, in effect, 'would one volutarily, w/o compulsion, do such a thing?')
 
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RawHumor said:
How many people who enjoy having their PYL spit into their face would, if you knew it was coming, open your mouth to receive it?

I would say about 9 in 10 of the ones I've done this with.

9 in ten slut boys agree, Mistress' phlegm is fab-a-riffic.
 
full circle

right after the thread was bumped:

Ecstatic. //Getting spit on has never even entered my realm of fantasy or imagination. Hmmmm. I have been on my knees half naked with my mouth wide open getting peed on my face and in my mouth and getting very turned on, but the thought of being spit on just grosses me out. It is strange though--I love the taste of come, I always swallow, of course i love trading spit while kissing and I think snowballing is very erotic. But getting spat on just turns me cold.//

now, most recently

netz 9 in ten slut boys agree, Mistress' phlegm is fab-a-riffic.

it looks like two extremes, endpoints of a line, like from light to dark.

but is it too much to say that ecstatic's feeling is lurking there in the slut boys? given our culture, they can't, no matter how advanced or jaded or deliberately kinky, avoid having a part of their mind and spirit that thinks 'how gross.'

i speculate: what then happens is that oddity compelling of perverse sex, *the desire for it*. IOW, _I want that_ and then, most suprising to the person, just after the feeling of revulsion starts, *and along with it*, "fuck! i'm getting aroused!"

is it too much to say that at that point the revulsion may also be against oneself, vile consumer *and eroticizer* of the gross.
 
Pure said:
right after the thread was bumped:

Ecstatic. //Getting spit on has never even entered my realm of fantasy or imagination. Hmmmm. I have been on my knees half naked with my mouth wide open getting peed on my face and in my mouth and getting very turned on, but the thought of being spit on just grosses me out. It is strange though--I love the taste of come, I always swallow, of course i love trading spit while kissing and I think snowballing is very erotic. But getting spat on just turns me cold.//

now, most recently

netz 9 in ten slut boys agree, Mistress' phlegm is fab-a-riffic.

it looks like two extremes, endpoints of a line, like from light to dark.

but is it too much to say that ecstatic's feeling is lurking there in the slut boys? given our culture, they can't, no matter how advanced or jaded or deliberately kinky, avoid having a part of their mind and spirit that thinks 'how gross.'

i speculate: what then happens is that oddity compelling of perverse sex, *the desire for it*. IOW, _I want that_ and then, most suprising to the person, just after the feeling of revulsion starts, *and along with it*, "fuck! i'm getting aroused!"

is it too much to say that at that point the revulsion may also be against oneself, vile consumer *and eroticizer* of the gross.


Ohhhh treading in dangerous territory.

I've always asserted, if pushed, that even the most wholesale submission is really about one and oneself. When you get down to it, the Dom/me is a facilitator, excuse, scapegoat, enabler, avatar, medium, magician (whatever) at BEST. This isn't some cheap "the sub controls the action" cop out. It's an assertion that the sub IS the "action" - the Dom is either blind to this or can cope with the fact that they're a neurotransmitter candyman when the chips are down.

I don't mind it, being a Dealer.
 
in saying the non resistant bottom is getting into his revulsion, and turning some onto himself---all with erotic effect, i don't think i was denying the approach you take. that the bottom sets things up.
 
Having read my reply again, I do have to add something. Since I have never been spat on, I really can't say what my actual reaction would be. I know the reaction the thought of it causes, but who knows until it actually happens? It is not a hard, or even soft limit. It has never been brought up. (and since my Dom does not read this board I don't think it would occur to him to do it, and I'm not bringing up the subject, lol.... :) Sometimes I do know when to keep my mouth closed)
 
Pure said:
in saying the non resistant bottom is getting into his revulsion, and turning some onto himself---all with erotic effect, i don't think i was denying the approach you take. that the bottom sets things up.

I agree. I just like the overtone that all play is predicament play. Nice.
 
ecstaticsub said:
The usual definition is for a man to come into your mouth and instead of swallowing or spitting you pass it on to another woman's mouth by kissing. Her mouth may also already be full of cum and she can mix them together and pass back to you or someone else.


I just wanted to thank you for the definition of snowballing. Sorry my thank you is a bit late, but I never made it back to this thread until now. Not my thing, but I'm glad I know what it means now. :)
 
Luvkitty33 said:
I just wanted to thank you for the definition of snowballing. Sorry my thank you is a bit late, but I never made it back to this thread until now. Not my thing, but I'm glad I know what it means now. :)


You're very welcome :)
 
Luvkitty33 said:
I just wanted to thank you for the definition of snowballing. Sorry my thank you is a bit late, but I never made it back to this thread until now. Not my thing, but I'm glad I know what it means now. :)

this is gross and i was familiar with the activity but not the term for it. i never understood the turn on of it... just sort of gross.

... the spitting in the fact - humiliating and a little gross and to me, it would probably piss me off and not turn me on if the spit is cast onto my face. but if the spit is to lube my ass or clit or something - that's a turn on. but i guess that's an entirely different subject.
 
Why do you think that being spit on is humilating?

I enjoy my cock being spit upon. I find women who will spit very sexy and those that will spit in my mouth is very sexy.

And a snow ball just puts my over the edge . . .
 
this raises the question of what exactly is being 'spit' or transferred.... there are several possibilities, from chocolate sundae on down the list.
 
a controlled spit is a drool. does you partner drooling into your mouth (with whatever) turn you on.

would you like to drool into your partner's mouth? perhaps drool some cum there and watch it land on the tongue, and your partner is sorta wondering 'do i have to swallow.' 'do it,' you say, 'down the hatch.'
 
Pure said:
a controlled spit is a drool. does you partner drooling into your mouth (with whatever) turn you on.

would you like to drool into your partner's mouth? perhaps drool some cum there and watch it land on the tongue, and your partner is sorta wondering 'do i have to swallow.' 'do it,' you say, 'down the hatch.'


Hmmmm, you have given me an idea. My husband has toyed around with the idea of eating a cream pie after my Dom comes in my pussy. But because we practice safer sex my Dom and I use condoms for vaginal and anal so no cream pies. But we don't use them for oral (please no lectures on why that is not safer sex) Anyway maybe it would be hot if my Dom came into my mouth and then I drooled the come either onto my husband's face or into his mouth...

Forget the maybe, that is making me hot. I don't think hubby would go for it though. Not sure if Daddy would either. Oh well the fantasy got me wet. :D
 
now that is hot!

it seems to me that if hub would eat a creampie from the dom, he'd be open to this also. esp. if he knew how hot it made you. just speculatin'.
 
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hmmmmmmmm

Queen Bee said:
In my mind there are two kinds of face spitting: one is the contemptous, sidewalk kind of spitting you're all talking about.

The other is not really contemptous, mostly just possessive and intimate. It says, "I can spit on your face because everything about you belongs to me," and can be accomplished as easily by a wet lick or hard, open-mouthed kiss as well as by a direct expectoration. It reminds me a little of the way a mother sometimes spits on her thumb or hankie to rub a smudge from her child's face.

They're both hot.

I came in looking for a form of enlightenment and, perhaps, something new to play with when I read yours QB.
I've impulsively licked a face before during sex asnd, hell, it was erotic and hot and connective in a way. Haven't tried it since. But....I can completely appreciate how posessive it could cause the one licked to feel. "You're mine. I can do this to you as noone else can or will." Like marking something as yours.
Ugh...hot. :devil:
**takes the 4th cold shower of the day*
 
Pure said:
i think of a mother tiger licking her cub's face
And there's that aspect of it too.
But I'm in the middle of my male/hyper-arroused/can't-quite-explain-it period and although I KNOW there are softer sides to it that I'll appreciate in about 4 or 5 days...it's just difficult right at the moment.
(i should get therapy for this)

Maybe I should try by starting ym own string! Ooh..Pure, thank you.
 
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netz: but is it too much to say that ecstatic's feeling is lurking there in the slut boys? given our culture, they can't, no matter how advanced or jaded or deliberately kinky, avoid having a part of their mind and spirit that thinks 'how gross.'
pure //i speculate: what then happens is that oddity compelling of perverse sex, *the desire for it*. IOW, _I want that_ and then, most suprising to the person, just after the feeling of revulsion starts, *and along with it*, "fuck! i'm getting aroused!"

is it too much to say that at that point the revulsion may also be against oneself, vile consumer *and eroticizer* of the gross. //


Netz, response Ohhhh treading in dangerous territory.

I've always asserted, if pushed, that even the most wholesale submission is really about one and oneself. When you get down to it, the Dom/me is a facilitator, excuse, scapegoat, enabler, avatar, medium, magician (whatever) at BEST. This isn't some cheap "the sub controls the action" cop out. It's an assertion that the sub IS the "action" - the Dom is either blind to this or can cope with the fact that they're a neurotransmitter candyman when the chips are down.

I don't mind it, being a Dealer.


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i like the phrase 'neurotransmitter [NT] candyman.' nonetheless, there are additional dimensions to the problem, in my opinion. these arise out of my own experiences with those from whom i've learned the most.

a couple comments: 1) the gift of this candy person is, however, a bit spiked. to use your example, the bottom who ejaculates into the toilet is having his nt's tweaked. he has the pleasure of orgasm. but his pride is assaulted in a major way. presumably that is the top's enterprise.

further, i've always argued that in doing both, giving orgasm and assaulting pride the top is reinforcing the connection for future use. the top, so to say, is relocating the 'rewards' in the bottom's universe. he will be aroused and come hard from a toilet assignment.

2) getting the bottom's nt's going is often a way of getting one's own going. as least it can be. first for the sensation of power, and second for (top) arousal pure and simple. i thrill to the sight of degradation, esp. if accompanied by arousal.

i picture that the top, having launched a wad into the bottoms mouth, and seeing the consternation as well as the arousal , has a nice sight to jerk off to.

there in a nice symmetry if the top is female (an observation i owe to a friend): milliions of guys jerk off to pictures of cum in a woman's mouth, or lying on her tongue. it's a porn staple reflecting the boy's desire to dirty the object and her orifices. the female top, contemplating her 'product' lying there in the mouth of the male bottom, can perhaps feel a similar delight, as well as 'what goes around comes around.'

further, if she's the least bit articulate, she can point out the reversal to this bottom; that he's now like the gooey mouthed slut in a million porn pics. that stings.

one must always respect the truth in these matters. :rose:
 
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Ohhhh treading in dangerous territory.

I've always asserted, if pushed, that even the most wholesale submission is really about one and oneself. When you get down to it, the Dom/me is a facilitator, excuse, scapegoat, enabler, avatar, medium, magician (whatever) at BEST. This isn't some cheap "the sub controls the action" cop out. It's an assertion that the sub IS the "action" - the Dom is either blind to this or can cope with the fact that they're a neurotransmitter candyman when the chips are down.

I don't mind it, being a Dealer.

This is one of those things that I really, really hate admitting, and so it annoys me when people bring it up, but I guess it is true. I mean, I want to submit, I want to be used and hurt and dominated.... But a very very big part of wanting that is because it makes me feel good, not because of pleasing the other person.

Anyway, on topic.... I've never had the pleasure of being spit on, but I have a strong feeling I'd love it.


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