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What’s your source for all this info?
For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine
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The thing is Chioe, your assuming Zelensky is in "charge" he is most definitely not, Zelensky is similar to a lawyer he's just the front/bag/mouthpiece for nato. He does as he is instructed. Nothing more, nothing less.
This attack into Russia proper is an invention of nato and in particular the United States.....
The Ukrainian war machine has absolutely nothing without the nato backing, no satellite targeting, surveillance, logistics ect.... Ukraine would have collapsed months back without western aid.....
No, it doesn't matter how many volunteers that are available to drive the F-16's those in power, the real decision makers are not going to allow rookie pilots to operate the F16s
One more item to ponder this attack into Russia proper may very well galvanize the Russians into a full on mobilization, then give the hardliners the ability to "take the gloves off" no matter the outcome of this blood bath Ukraine will be in-slaved to the money backers/banks. They(Ukraine)are literally dieing to be slaves..... unfortunate as all hell what's left of their culture, their children's future is been for all intents and purposes utterly erased...... and this all started with the United States backing a over throw of a legal, duly elected government of Ukraine under the Obama regime.....
Honestly the good people of Ukraine and in particular the Russians have been duped/played, into destroying one another.....
Please remember I'm not being snarky, I do so welcome your posts..... and a good measure of my posts here are just my humble opinions...
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https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/adrenoch...-leaders-are-addicted-to-childrens-blood/it's known in the inner circles of power they refer to Zelensky as booger sugar Zelensky...... just say'in
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Has Putin de-nazified Ukraine yet?
Has he reduced or eliminated Nazis from Ukraine in any measureable amount?
Does he have an ETA on mission success of de-nazifying Ukraine?
Has he even discussed progress of his end goal, which was stated as de-nazification of Ukraine?
Answer to all the above is no.
Has he reduced or eliminated Nazis from Ukraine in any measureable amount?
Does he have an ETA on mission success of de-nazifying Ukraine?
Has he even discussed progress of his end goal, which was stated as de-nazification of Ukraine?
Answer to all the above is no.
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LOL. And all of that is of course assuming that there ARE Nazis in Ukraine to start with. Most of the images of "Ukrainian" Nazis have turned out to be Russians, but not a worry - Ukraine is proceeding with the denazification of Russia. So far almost 600,000 Russians have been successfully de-nazified by the ZSU
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This very often
https://x.com/NOELreports
Been following his twitter feed pretty much since the war started. Quite reliable and consistent and without any fake info. He checks his sources. There's a few feeds that are good but can be a bit sensational, but Noel reports is one of the better ones.
Azov are useful too
https://x.com/Azovsouth
KhersonCat
https://x.com/bayraktar_1love
Euromaidan Press
https://x.com/EuromaidanPress
Quite a few others that are interesting but a bit more sensational sometimes and can be less reliable. If you're interested, I can drop a list here with links later when I have time. I don't use the Russian Telegram channels at all unless they are thru one of the feeds I follow - the Ru Telegram stuff is totally unreliable and really needs a much more knowledgeable assessment than I can do myself.
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https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/iskanders-glide-bombs-thermobaric-rains-kursk
This is an "update" from military watch magazine on kursk fight.... I believe it's not propaganda, but as accurate as this can be given the circumstances.....
This is an "update" from military watch magazine on kursk fight.... I believe it's not propaganda, but as accurate as this can be given the circumstances.....
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This is the other bizarre fantasy from Putin knob slobbers--who cares if Zelensky is corrupt, a puppet, what ever whatever (spoiler alert: he's not)? All that matter is that orcs are getting slaughtered, and the z-dawg is doing a tremendous job at that. Sad that so many Ukrainians are dying, but keep your eye on the ball. For generations hence, the epic realpoitik statesmanship of Biden will be studied--duping a would-be superpower into punching themselves in the head so hard and so long they fall straight into failed state status. And doing it with mothballed inventory! Utterly remarkable.
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I stopped tracking when Lui-dupes, or whatever his his name was, stopped posting. I don’t trust any American sources, everything US sources posit usual has a political slant to it. I don’t need someone’s political opinion, just the facts.
Thanks for sharing that with me!
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It's fascinating to watch at times. Back in the first year, a lot of info came from Ukrainian accounts. You could actually see when the Ukrainians were doing something because all the accounts would go dark on whatever it was - Kherson was a classic example of that where the govt asked everyone not to talk about it and overnight, zippo. They are very conscious about OpSec with good reason - release a photo and instant geolocationing, and then the artillery or missiles - you can see it right now in Kursk with a couple of the Russian reporters making that basic mistake. So there's far less immediate info available now. Take Kursk, the Ukrainian OpSec is insanely tight. It's so hard to figure out what's going on and that's good. If we can't, the Russians likely can't either.
As for twitter, there's so much crap that flies around, I just follow the ones I trust now, some of them are more opinion than fact but as long as the label it, thats fine.
Here's a few more. These ones are pretty good but I don't take their word for it - but quite good extrapolations and some good background
Trent Telenko is pretty good. Some speculation and opinion as well as analysis
https://x.com/TrentTelenko
https://x.com/Osinttechnical
Images, video clips and snippets - good source
https://x.com/noclador
Thomas Theiner - good source of opinion and analysis
https://x.com/WarintheFuture
Australian General Mick Ryan is ALWAYS worth reading
https://x.com/JimmySecUK
Jimmy Rushton is Kyiv based - good background and analysis
https://x.com/IAPonomarenko
Illia Ponomarenko is a Ukrainian reporter and worth tracking. Not day to day stuff, but his articles are good and he's a great source for Ukrainian opinions
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Go to the Military Summary channel on YouTube for even handed daily reports on battlefield conditions in Ukraine.
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This is such a great contribution by Rheinmetall and it's these things that are so important to. It's not just IFV's and tanks and ammo. It's field hospitals, medical equipment, front line ambulances to evacuate casualties, First Aid Kits for soldiers, Field Kitchens, Laundry Units, Mobile Showers, all the stuff that's not exciting bit is essential to a functioning military. Even MRE's.
Some of those captured Russian soldiers have not eaten for 5 days, or had a wash in a month. One of the big complaints from Ukrainians is that Russian POW's stink when they're first captured....think what that does to health and morale. And think of the difference that knowing that if you are wounded, you'll be evacuated to, and treated in, something like this makes.
Some of those captured Russian soldiers have not eaten for 5 days, or had a wash in a month. One of the big complaints from Ukrainians is that Russian POW's stink when they're first captured....think what that does to health and morale. And think of the difference that knowing that if you are wounded, you'll be evacuated to, and treated in, something like this makes.
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Azov South reports that between 50-70% of residents of the Belgorod region' have left, Panic among the population is growing.
Governor of Belgorod, Vyacheslav Gladkov. Economically, Belgorod is a big contributor to the Russian economy, with a population of around 350,000
Around 170,000 refugees are currently evacuating from Kursk - this is only going to add to that,
Governor of Belgorod, Vyacheslav Gladkov. Economically, Belgorod is a big contributor to the Russian economy, with a population of around 350,000
Around 170,000 refugees are currently evacuating from Kursk - this is only going to add to that,
I have been extremely impressed with ChloeTzang. I am therefore mystified by her support for the war in Ukraine. Those of us who are old enough to remember when the Berlin wall fell are unable to understand why America's insane government is so eager to not just revive the cold war but provoke a nuclear war.
A little remembered factor is that when German reunification was pending, there was considerably consternation about Germany remaining in NATO. President Eisenhower would have resolved the issue by disbanding NATO. Eisenhower had stated that if US troops remained in Europe a decade after NATO was established, then NATO would have been a failure. President George H W Bush understood the issues extremely well. G H W Bush negotiated a peaceful resolution by assuring the Soviet Union that NATO would not expand "one inch Eastwards" beyond Germany.
Just a few years later President Clinton who had zero foreign policy or military expertise much less experience, was invoking the insane "duty to protect" doctrine as a pretext to bomb ethnic Slavs into the stoneage so that the Jihadists of Bosnia could impose Sharia law on them. This became the pretext to relentlessly expand NATO Eastward, bringing American nuclear missiles closer and closer to Moscow. Now America is supplying Zelenski, the comedian who is most famous for playing the piano with his penis, with nuclear capable, F-16 fighter bombers!
Putin is crushing this incursion into Russia as I write. When he is finished, he will have absolutely overwhelming political support to utterly destroy Ukraine. There will be no negotiated settlement. Recognizing the autonomy of the ethnic Russian, Russian speaking populations of Crimea and the Donbass will be insufficient as a concession. Russia will insist on not only controlling Ukraine but Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania, but annexing portions of Poland to regain a contiguous connection to Kalingrad.
If people on this forum had brains, they'd be digging fallout shelters.
A little remembered factor is that when German reunification was pending, there was considerably consternation about Germany remaining in NATO. President Eisenhower would have resolved the issue by disbanding NATO. Eisenhower had stated that if US troops remained in Europe a decade after NATO was established, then NATO would have been a failure. President George H W Bush understood the issues extremely well. G H W Bush negotiated a peaceful resolution by assuring the Soviet Union that NATO would not expand "one inch Eastwards" beyond Germany.
Just a few years later President Clinton who had zero foreign policy or military expertise much less experience, was invoking the insane "duty to protect" doctrine as a pretext to bomb ethnic Slavs into the stoneage so that the Jihadists of Bosnia could impose Sharia law on them. This became the pretext to relentlessly expand NATO Eastward, bringing American nuclear missiles closer and closer to Moscow. Now America is supplying Zelenski, the comedian who is most famous for playing the piano with his penis, with nuclear capable, F-16 fighter bombers!
Putin is crushing this incursion into Russia as I write. When he is finished, he will have absolutely overwhelming political support to utterly destroy Ukraine. There will be no negotiated settlement. Recognizing the autonomy of the ethnic Russian, Russian speaking populations of Crimea and the Donbass will be insufficient as a concession. Russia will insist on not only controlling Ukraine but Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania, but annexing portions of Poland to regain a contiguous connection to Kalingrad.
If people on this forum had brains, they'd be digging fallout shelters.
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I can't possibly agree more, very well stated.....
As for Chloe..... she's doing remarkable work, I'm also impressed ....you go girl...her posts help me to stay centered, and to question my sources
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I’ve been watching the videos, makes your eyes glaze over. It’s hard to get a sense of who’s winning and who’s losing. I’ll keep viewing, maybe they’ll show a general strategy in this assault in Russia.
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Troops are being moved there from offensive fronts in Ukraine. The strategy appears to be to put Russian troops into defensive mode so Ukranians can go on offense. It is shifting the dynamics, though unclear whether it's working as much as they'd like.
From initial reports, it does seem to have taken them by surprise.
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It goes into boring detail but I find it provides fair balance of activity on the field for both sides. It also shows the hopelessness of the Ukrainian effort along the line of contact. His accent drives me crazy as well, but it is what it is. You'll get more truth there than you will in our media. You come to realize as well that this war is small unit warfare because large infantry and armored formations are easily seen and targeted. The map has changed little in three years.
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I found this fascinating - something I didn't realize. Ukrainian troops moving thru Kursk Oblast, and finding the locals are actually Ukrainian and speak Ukrainian. And listen to the old lady calling out Slava Ukraini! Very moving. Hold a referendum here and these people would probably opt to be part of Ukraine. Kursk and other border regions were part of the People's Republic of Ukraine till they were stolen by the Bolsheviks in the 1921 war and after the reconquest and occupation of Ukraine. If you look at the map below, these are all ethnically Ukrainian areas, including the Kuban. These are the borders proposed in 1919, there are variations of these. But Kursk and Bilhorod are 100% Ukrainian territory. Perhaps it's time to rethink whether the Kerch bridge should be destroyed.
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It seems to show the complexities of drone warfare. Ya can’t win a land battle with highly expensive armor and artillery without air superiority and stealth. I still think Ukraine is taking one hell of a risk of overstretching their logistical capabilities on a ruse.
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Kursk citizens claim that many Russian volunteers are switching to the Ukrainian side. They are fed up with their government not caring about people unless they're from Moscow or St. Petersburg.Some Russian soldiers were killed, some were captured, and some started fighting against Russian forces. That does NOT look good for the Kremlin's rat.
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Interesting! I can’t even begin to understand a path forward or a battle plan. Ukraine can only win this war with total involvement by NATO forces. Russia needs to suffer from constant massive overhead bombings raids and a valid threat to Moscow itself.. The Ukrainian forces just don’t have the logistical capacity to probe, sustain and keep territory.. unlike what I was led to believe earlier, they don’t have an air force worth a shit and they don’t have the time to train them on newer stuff. How many Russian mothers have lost sons in this Putin testosterone crisis. In Iraq towns like Fallujah our military surrounded the town denying terrorist reinforcements then sent in door kickers in bloody CQC but when our troops cleaned house we owned the town, we took heavy losses even with overwhelming military superiority. This Ukraine war is like two hammers pounding each other mercilessly, where one hammer holds all the cards. IMHO
Very well said.
The battle lines are as arbitrary and nebulous as the battle lines in the American civil war. Almost all involved are ethnic Slavs. I would have been extremely content to encourage Ukraine and ALL of the former Warsaw Pact to remain neutral. I also would have had America withdraw from NATO. (This is from a former Cold Warrior who used to do nuclear targeting studies.). Finland, Sweden and Austria are prime examples of how this could work. This would have established a true NEUTRAL ZONE that would provide BOTH sides with over a thousand miles of strategic depth. (This is unlike the Star Trek neutral zone with the Romulans that appears to be just a border that can be so easily crossed as a result of a minor navigational error.)
Russia has enormous problems not just with the former Soviet but not Russian Republics but with ethnic and cultural minorities within the Russian Federation. Russia would never have invaded Ukraine if Secretary of State Hillary Clinton hadn't conspired with a Samantha Powers and Victoria Nuland to foment a coup to overthrow the constitutional elected President. Nuland even got herself videos handing out cookies to the protestors. Nuland also got her cell phone tapped as she was dictating who should be in the cabinet of the provisional government.
The thing to remember is that while Russia's nuclear arsenal is much smaller than it used to be, it wouldn't take more than a few hundred nukes to de-energize and deindustrialize America. Only a hundred, medium yield nukes would be sufficient to destroy about 90% of America's oil refining capacity. America has no realistic plans to reconstitute these industries. With no industry to support food production and transportation, most of the population would die within a year. Afte the Berlin Wall fell, Russia resisted the instinctive impulse to launch a strategic nuclear strike before they lost control of most of their ICBMs that were stationed in Kazakhstan and Ukraine. Why the FUCK are we trying to push their backs to the wall and provoke them into going nuclear on us now?
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I see a whole range of factors here, amongst them that every country who neighbors the Russians, when the chips are down, dislikes them intensely, if not hates them for their history - Estonians, Latvians and Lithuanians all had their own holocausts at the hands of the Russians. Finland escaped that fate, but only by fighting two horrendous wars (the Winter War and the Continuation War) to keep themselves free of the Russians. Don't ask the Circassians, they were almost exterminated. The Crimean Tatars? All shipped to Siberia. Poland? The atrocities on Poles carried out by the Russians both historically and in WW2 and the aftermath were unspeakable. I never met by great-grandfather, but he was Polish and to him, "Russians" was a curse. Personally, speaking as someone whose family on my dad's side was Polish and from the countryside outside of Lvov, in what is now Ukraine, I have a really intense dislike of Russians, particularly after they started this war.
Ukrainians above all have good reason to hate the Russians. The Holodomor killed more Ukrainians than the Nazis killed Jews in WW2. The nazis were tried in courts, jailed, executed and their crimes documented and publicized world wide. The Holodomor? No Russians have ever been punished for those crimes, and now it's far too late, but still, as with the Katyn massacre, the Russians refuse to atone for their crimes, or even admit they existed. Instead, they are going all out to commit another Holodomor on Ukrainians and indeed, Putin's stated objective is to extinguish the Ukraine as a country. As for enutrality and Russia, it's impossible to be neutral. For Austria maybe, they have no border with Russia - but note how Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia joined NATO as quickly as they could. Note how Poland did so to, and how Poland is rebuilding their armed forces to a size where they CAN take on Russia. Because it's not to fight the Germans.
Witness Sweden and Finland joining NATO. Sweden has been neutral since the Napoleonic Wars, and Russia managed to eliminate that neutrality. And what did neutrality, or even trying to reach accommodations with Russia get Georgia? Land graps. What did Russia's "friendship" get Armenia. Nada. Before this war, most Ukrainians wanted an association with the EU but joining NATO wasn't really a thing that had support before 2014, but grabbing Crimea and the Donbas and Luhansk, in all of which areas a majority voted for Ukraine pushed more Ukrainians into separating from Russian.
And after the last two and a half years, it's no use wishing to go back to what was. Ukraine is opting out of EVERYTHING Russian. Ukrainians who spoke Russian as their 1st language are opting to learn Ukrainian and Russian as a second language is fast vanishing. The Russian Orthodox Church is being banned, anything Russian is fast vanishing from Ukraine and that is by popular choice. Even the railway lines are being changed to the European gauge, and I understand there's a move to adopt the Roman alphabet. EU membership is being fast-tracked, and NATO will come. There will NEVER be a netral zone now. Putin has made sure of that, and he may well have ensured that rather than the Greater Russia of his daydreams, he's destroyed the Russian Federation as well.
Which in all honesty, would probably now be the best outcome. Russia is one of the world's last colonial empires, and there are a dozen ethnic states that stand to emerge from it's distintegration. The Siberian ethnic states to start with, the Volga-Finnic regions of Mari El and Mordovia. Chechyna. Dagestan, and the rest. Look at the oblasts in the map below - Bryansk, Kursk and Belgorod, Voronezh and Rostov + the Kuban across to the Caspian and down to the mini-states of the Caucasus are Ukrainian and given a choice would likely opt to join Ukraine. Komo is NOT Russian. A large part of Karelia is Finnish - and before WW1, St Petersburg was 25% Finnish and the countryside of Ingria, around St Petersburg, was almost 100% Finns. Stalin dealt with that by sending them all to Siberia, but....
When you get to the core of Russia, it's a state about the same geographical size as Ukraine with a population of maybe 110-120,000,000. By comparison there are 85 million Germans, 37 million Poles, 40 million Ukrainians - about the same as California. The true Russia is just another average European country, albeit with a slightly larger population but a shit economy. Strip away Siberia and a lot of the resources that the kleptocrats loot and steal are gone.
Best solution is break up the Russian Federation, strip away the nukes, send the war criminals to the Hague and denazify the country, altho a lot of that is tied to Russian nationalism.
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They're back!!!!!! Ukrainian Farmers and their Tractors are being drafted into service in Kursk. Here, Ukrainian tractor is advancing at 70 km/h into the Kursk region to help evacuate captured Russian armored vehicles, according to the 225th Separate Assault Battalion. Apparently the Ukrainians have captured so much Russian military equipment that the usual Army recovery vehicles are unable to keep up. Ukrainian farmers are again being asked to assist and, as they did in 2022, they and their tractors are answering the call.....
Slava Ukraini!!! Slava Tractors!!!!
Slava Ukraini!!! Slava Tractors!!!!
