For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine

[Rightguide]

WILLIAM UPTON
NATSEC
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Biden SecDef Threatens To Send Relatives of Congressmen to War If They Vote Against Ukraine Funding.​

Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin is threatening Members of Congress, explaining during a classified brief on Capitol Hill yesterday that unless they reupped more taxpayer-funded Ukraine aid, “…we’ll send your uncles, cousins and sons to fight”.

“The Biden administration is openly threatening Americans over Ukraine,” wrote Tucker Carlson on X (formerly Twitter), explaining: “In a classified briefing in the House yesterday, defense secretary Lloyd Austin informed members that if they don’t appropriate more money for Zelensky, ‘we’ll send your uncles, cousins and sons to fight Russia.’ Pay the oligarchs or we’ll kill your kids.”

While Defense Sec. Austin was threatening lawmakers, White House National National Security Council spokesman John Kirby also claimed that if Ukraine loses, it will end up costing American blood in a hot war with Russia.

More here: https://thenationalpulse.com/2023/1...-to-war-if-they-vote-against-ukraine-funding/

Who says this fat bastard or the White House spokesman has any inherent authority to send our people to war, let alone just those individuals related to disagreeing members of Congress?

 

[Rightguide]

lol, of course youd claim that. What they also show is your larger fail of championing widespread voter fraud.

Here's some more fraud:

'Dirty voter rolls’ slammed, 131% of eligible DC voters registered​

by Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist
December 08, 2023 11:45 AM

Several states and the District of Columbia have been hit by an election watchdog for failing to clean up their voter rolls of the dead and ineligible.

Judicial Watch said it just finished investigating registrations and sent letters to the district, California, and Illinois warning that they are violating the National Voter Registration Act by not cleaning up the rolls.

In the case of Washington, D.C., Judicial Watch said the voting rolls revealed a much higher number than are eligible to vote.

“D.C.’s total registration rate — its total number of registrations divided by the most recent census estimates of its citizen voting-age population — is greater than 131%,” said the review.

More here: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-slammed-131-of-eligible-dc-voters-registered

Read it and weep.

 

[jomar]

Here's some more fraud:

'Dirty voter rolls’ slammed, 131% of eligible DC voters registered​

by Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist
December 08, 2023 11:45 AM

Several states and the District of Columbia have been hit by an election watchdog for failing to clean up their voter rolls of the dead and ineligible.

Judicial Watch said it just finished investigating registrations and sent letters to the district, California, and Illinois warning that they are violating the National Voter Registration Act by not cleaning up the rolls.

In the case of Washington, D.C., Judicial Watch said the voting rolls revealed a much higher number than are eligible to vote.

“D.C.’s total registration rate — its total number of registrations divided by the most recent census estimates of its citizen voting-age population — is greater than 131%,” said the review.

More here: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-slammed-131-of-eligible-dc-voters-registered

Read it and weep.

Sure, sure. As bad as the Washington Examiner is the Judicial Watch has even worse credibility.

And you’re the one once again wrongly claiming fraud, not the examiner or the Judicial Watch!

^^^ So there’s your false statement you asked me for. You should change your name to OwnGoal.

 

[Rightguide]

Sure, sure. As bad as the Washington Examiner is the Judicial Watch has even worse credibility.

And you’re the one once again wrongly claiming fraud, not the examiner or the Judicial Watch!

^^^ So there’s your false statement you asked me for. You should change your name to OwnGoal.

According to whom? Show me the false information.

 

[jomar]

According to whom? Show me the false information.

You said “Here’s some more fraud” and linked the article. Neither The Washington Examiner or the Judicial Watch were claiming unclean rolls were fraud, just that not cleaning them up raises a potential risk for fraud.

So you claiming fraud based on the article is a false statement. You now saying show me the false information is your go to goalpost move.

 

[Rightguide]

Mainstream Media Bitterly Comes to Terms With Vladimir Putin’s Successes in the Ukraine War​

By Paul Serran Dec. 11, 2023 1:20 pm

From Daniel Hannan for the Daily Telegraph:

“The case for intervention in Ukraine is not that it is a liberal democracy. […] Russophile parties have been banned, and there is a worry that the crackdown might extend to pro-Western opposition politicians, too. This week, I was at a meeting of global Centre-Right parties at which Petro Poroshenko, the former president, was meant to speak. At the last minute, he and two of his MPs were banned from leaving Ukraine – and though Poroshenko patriotically declined to make a fuss, it left me wondering, not for the first time, why Zelensky refuses to draw other parties into a wartime coalition.”

He may be wondering, but we know for sure. His final take is also worth sharing.

“While we are not ourselves at war this time, we are so invested in the Ukrainian cause that a Russian victory – and absorbing conquered territory is a Russian victory, present it how you will – would mean a catastrophic loss of prestige for the West and the ideas associated with it: personal freedom, democracy and human rights.”

More here: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...tterly-comes-terms-vladimir-putins-successes/

The mainstream pro-Ukraine war media is getting the message. I only posted some excerpts from the article but I would suggest reading it in full at the link above for better context. The Western media is starting to get the facts of the military reality on the ground in Ukraine. Yet brain-dead Victoria Nuland, Tony Blinken, and Pinocchio Joe continue to sleepwalk through misty hallucinations about a Western victory in Ukraine without the introduction of Western armies.

 

[Rightguide]

This lowly former US Marine's battlefield situation assessments of the Ukraine War make Generals Petraeus and Hodges look like pathetic fools:

 

[Lazaran]

This lowly former US Marine's battlefield situation assessments of the Ukraine War make Generals Petraeus and Hodges look like pathetic fools:

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RussiaGuide is getting information and analysis on Ukraine from a talking penis with a barely disguised Russian accent.



RussiaGuide

 

[Rightguide]

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RussiaGuide is getting information and analysis on Ukraine from a talking penis with a barely disguised Russian accent.



RussiaGuide

Actually I just happened across the video but it is accurate and incisive compared to the wishful thinking of Ben Hodges or David Petraeus assessments acting on behalf of Victoria Nuland and Tony Blinken that I've seen on CNN and on other networks. You should watch it if you want to know what happened in the time frame mentioned. Otherwise stay dumb.

 

[Rightguide]

DISSECTING THE WASHINGTON POST’S “ANALYSIS” OF UKRAINE’S FAILED COUNTER OFFENSIVE — PART 2​

8 December 2023 by Larry Johnson

DISSECTING THE WASHINGTON POST’S “ANALYSIS” OF UKRAINE’S FAILED COUNTER OFFENSIVE — PART 2​

8 December 2023 by Larry Johnson 271 Comments

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This two part series in the Washington Post is a must read because of what it tells the reader about the abysmal performance of the White House and the Department of Defense. I found it genuinely shocking. I knew that Biden, Austin and Milley were bad. I just did not appreciate how bad. On a scale of 1 to 10, with a 10 marking the biggest fuck up in history, these guys rate an 11.
Part two, In Ukraine, a war of incremental gains as counteroffensive stalls, pushes the false narrative that what is happening on the ground in Ukraine is a “stalemate.” No. What is going on is a major ass kicking by Russia. Here is the definition of a stalemate in chess, which also applies to war:

The entire article here for those who are interested in the truth of what has happened in Ukraine:

https://sonar21.com/dissecting-the-...-of-ukraines-failed-counter-offensive-part-2/

Larry Johnson dissects the US failure in part 2 of his assessment of the WaPo's analysis of events in Ukraine.

 

[ll74]

Larry Johnson.....again.

 

[Rightguide]

Larry Johnson.....again.

Hey, you might not like his politics but he is a former CIA operations analyst and State Department special operations planner. He knows the ground game inside and out.

 

[jomar]

Interesting opinion piece.

 

[ll74]

Hey, you might not like his politics but he is a former CIA operations analyst and State Department special operations planner. He knows the ground game inside and out.

Yes, I get that he gives you the analysis that agrees with you.

 

[Rightguide]

Yes, I get that he gives you the analysis that agrees with you.

I have no dog in this game. In the beginning, I was with the Ukrainians being strong enough to negotiate a favorable withdrawal of Russian forces, but I was against pouring our diminished weaponry into the war because I knew it would lead to where we are right now, and said so. I knew we'd be eyeball to eyeball with the Russians risking nuclear war and not being anywhere near prepared for it. We haven't fought a peer enemy in 78 years and aside from nuclear weapons, we don't have 10% of the combat power we had then. Crossing the Atlantic against the German wolfpack was a cake walk compared to what we'd have to contend with today both in the air and on the sea.

There was never any hope of the Ukrainians winning a war of attrition with the Russians. All of the talk about ousting Putin and taking down Russia was transparent BS to anyone who understood history, especially WWII history. I saw the hypocrisy of insisting on creating a NATO state on Russia's border when we would be the first to attack and destroy any foreign army doing the same in Mexico. Recall that we had no problem or hesitation about kicking the French out of Mexico. The whole idea was cooked up by incompetent people who have no business dipping their toes into the field of diplomacy or strategic power projection. The same mindsets are what lost the wars in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan and shut down four embassies in three years.

 

[ll74]

I have no dog in this game. In the beginning, I was with the Ukrainians being strong enough to negotiate a favorable withdrawal of Russian forces, but I was against pouring our diminished weaponry into the war because I knew it would lead to where we are right now, and said so. I knew we'd be eyeball to eyeball with the Russians risking nuclear war and not being anywhere near prepared for it. We haven't fought a peer enemy in 78 years and aside from nuclear weapons, we don't have 10% of the combat power we had then. Crossing the Atlantic against the German wolfpack was a cake walk compared to what we'd have to contend with today both in the air and on the sea.

There was never any hope of the Ukrainians winning a war of attrition with the Russians. All of the talk about ousting Putin and taking down Russia was transparent BS to anyone who understood history, especially WWII history. I saw the hypocrisy of insisting on creating a NATO state on Russia's border when we would be the first to attack and destroy any foreign army doing the same in Mexico. Recall that we had no problem or hesitation about kicking the French out of Mexico. The whole idea was cooked up by incompetent people who have no business dipping their toes into the field of diplomacy or strategic power projection. The same mindsets are what lost the wars in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan and shut down four embassies in three years.

Lol. You are a broken record.

 

[Rightguide]

Lol. You are a broken record.

Lol, you have no rejoinder.

 

[ll74]

Lol, you have no rejoinder.

My response continues to be that you're consistently saying the same thing since the war started. You want Ukraine to lose and give up their land.

 

[jomar]

I have no dog in this game. In the beginning, I was with the Ukrainians being strong enough to negotiate a favorable withdrawal of Russian forces, but I was against pouring our diminished weaponry into the war because I knew it would lead to where we are right now, and said so. I knew we'd be eyeball to eyeball with the Russians risking nuclear war and not being anywhere near prepared for it. We haven't fought a peer enemy in 78 years and aside from nuclear weapons, we don't have 10% of the combat power we had then. Crossing the Atlantic against the German wolfpack was a cake walk compared to what we'd have to contend with today both in the air and on the sea.

There was never any hope of the Ukrainians winning a war of attrition with the Russians. All of the talk about ousting Putin and taking down Russia was transparent BS to anyone who understood history, especially WWII history. I saw the hypocrisy of insisting on creating a NATO state on Russia's border when we would be the first to attack and destroy any foreign army doing the same in Mexico. Recall that we had no problem or hesitation about kicking the French out of Mexico. The whole idea was cooked up by incompetent people who have no business dipping their toes into the field of diplomacy or strategic power projection. The same mindsets are what lost the wars in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan and shut down four embassies in three years.

lol, woof! Better go delete your posts then.

 

[Rightguide]

My response continues to be that you're consistently saying the same thing since the war started. You want Ukraine to lose and give up their land.

There wouldn't have been a problem in the first place if the Ukrainians hadn't gone into those eastern provinces and began ethnic cleansing some 14,000 Russian-speaking Ukrainians.

 

[ll74]

There wouldn't have been a problem in the first place if the Ukrainians hadn't gone into those eastern provinces and began ethnic cleansing some 14,000 Russian-speaking Ukrainians.

That's not what happened. But Russian Propaganda says that it was.

Russia sent Russian operatives into the Eastern provinces and attacked Ukranians forces. Ukranians responded.

The Russian annexation led to ethnic cleansing. https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blo...rainian-genocide-is-proceeding-in-plain-view/

Since the start of the invasion on February 24, more than one million Ukrainians have been forcibly deported to the Russian-occupied Donbas region of eastern Ukraine or the Russian Federation itself. They have then been herded into so-called “filtration camps” and subjected to a wide range of human rights abuses including degrading strip searches and regular beatings. Those thought to harbor pro-Ukrainian views are subjected to particularly savage treatment and can expect to be singled out for further detention.

It's clear to see who the aggresor and foreign invader is here

 

[Rightguide]

lol, woof! Better go delete your posts then.

Why should I delete posts?

 

[jomar]

Why should I delete posts?

You claim to have been with Ukraine, but…not so much.

 

[DeluxAuto]

There wouldn't have been a problem in the first place if the Ukrainians hadn't gone into those eastern provinces and began ethnic cleansing some 14,000 Russian-speaking Ukrainians.

How do you feel about Israel doing that to Palestine, Jack?

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Here is what you don't understand:

How The United States And Its NATO Allies Sabotaged Peace Between Russia And Ukraine​

By Larry Johnson Nov. 15, 2023 7:00 am

We now know that the United States played the primary role in sabotaging the March 29, 2022 tentative peace agreement between Russia and Ukraine thanks to the recently published article by Hajo Funke and Harald Kujat, HOW THE CHANCE WAS LOST FOR A PEACE SETTLEMENT OF THE UKRAINE WAR — AND THE WEST WANTED TO CONTINUE THE WAR INSTEAD. The United States persuaded its NATO allies that pursuing the war against Russia, using Ukraine as a proxy, offered a legitimate opportunity to destroy Russia. You want a definition of evil? This is it. Instead of helping end the war between Russia and Ukraine, the United States and its NATO puppets condemned hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian soldiers to death in a war with Russia they could not win.

In the course of strong arming Ukraine’s Zelensky into rejecting the peace agreement, the West prepared and launched a propaganda campaign that claimed that Ukrainian military forces defeated the Russian forces and compelled them to retreat. It was a lie. As you will read in the timeline below, Putin ordered the withdrawal of Russian forces starting on April 1, 2022 as a good faith gesture about Russia’s seriousness in complying with the 29 March Istanbul Agreement.

Chalk this up as one more massive war crime by the United States and NATO. They are accessories to murder. I have summarized the timeline presented in the Funke/Kujat article if you do not have time to read it in its entirety. I also am republishing their piece for your convenience. All of the death and destruction experienced in Ukraine and Russia could have been avoided. But the West was intent on dethroning Putin and carving up Russia. Once you understand this point I think you will appreciate that Putin and his Generals are no longer of a mind to give the West the benefit of the doubt. Destroying NATO’s designs on Ukraine is now their chief aim in my view.

More here: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/11/how-united-states-its-nato-allies-sabotaged-peace/

Read the entire article. Biden gambled in March of 2022 and now is quietly calling for negotiations.

Oh fuck off with opeds. That's all you ever post. Fact is Türkiye Cumhuriyeti controlls the access. If Russia tries to challenge it, that is an act of war against a NATO member. Even Russia isn't that fucking stupid. But you and your dumbfuck opeds are....

There is zero justification you can offer for either the start of the war, or the fact Ukraine has decimated Russia's Black Sea fleet.