fucking vs. really making love

you so don't realise the irony in that

but for the time you are amusement such has not come this way for a while

it would almost be cruel to hope you could understand

Cheers, my friend!

*Clinks glasses with you*
 
...you would not really expect chimpanzees to understand the thinking of Einstein either, would you?...

When you see a thread that contains this statement in the first paragraph it does not appear as if the poster is looking to engage in constructive dialogue - and so it has turned out to be.

...an apparent intent to misunderstand. Like my remarks about Americans and certain Italians: I really I like these people, but two blokes thought I had said the opposite...

It wasn't a wilful misunderstanding glBock. This is what you said:

...
I am prepared to admit that many ordinary Americans are the most likeable people on earth for me. Maybe with the exception of certain Italians...

and also:

...
But one thing ordinary Americans are NOT, as far as I experienced it: experts in love and erotica. It probably has to do with many Americans being religious, and the bible teaches nothing more than fucking. And procreation of course; for a while the only justification for fucking...

And by the way, I am neither American nor Italian. I just don't enjoy seeing sweeping statements of a somewhat derogatory nature against a group of people on the basis of race, nationality, religion etc.
 
Isn't it too bad, Jada, that now someone is taking your favorite toy away from you? By simply refusing a discussion with people who have never mastered discussions in the first place?

Statements of a petulant child. Act like an ass, throw a tantrum when others don't bow to your ill mannered ranting and raving.

Grow up a little bit, would ya?
 
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But one thing ordinary Americans are NOT, as far as I experienced it: experts in love and erotica

Yes... I find that most Americans do not have patience to deal with bitter, angry, destructive, temper tantrum throwing, ignorant dolts.

It is clear that this has been your experience...and that explains why you think Americans are not experts in love and erotica... they're so revolted by you that during your "visit," they likely wanted nothing to do with you. And, since you're clearly narcissistic and oh so perfect, it must be them, not you.

A little bit of wisdom for you blocky...when you look around and can't clearly identify the asshole in the room, you're it. When everyone else is the problem... you're actually the problem.

You need help.

You were not socialized properly as a child, which is why you still act like a child, seek help.
 
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a very short reply to carrollguy

I had to laugh when I read this part of your oh so smart post above:

Yes... I find that most Americans do not have patience to deal with bitter, angry, destructive, temper tantrum throwing, ignorant dolts
.

Who do I ask you, did you Americans put in the White House in Novemebr of 2016? And who has been keeping him there, for about two years now?

So much for the patience you supposedly don't have!
 
I had to laugh when I read this part of your oh so smart post above:

Yes... I find that most Americans do not have patience to deal with bitter, angry, destructive, temper tantrum throwing, ignorant dolts
.

Who do I ask you, did you Americans put in the White House in Novemebr of 2016? And who has been keeping him there, for about two years now?

So much for the patience you supposedly don't have!

Oh No! You hurted my feewings.

You must be a wannabe politician... divert, distract, cry, whine, name call. You must be a left leaning marxist. Blood on your ideological hands.
 
I had to laugh when I read this part of your oh so smart post above:

Yes... I find that most Americans do not have patience to deal with bitter, angry, destructive, temper tantrum throwing, ignorant dolts
.

Who do I ask you, did you Americans put in the White House in Novemebr of 2016? And who has been keeping him there, for about two years now?

So much for the patience you supposedly don't have!

Most Americans voted AGAINST Trump, so I'm not sure the election result proves what you think it proves.
 
I must say I really am enjoying following this thread! Amazing how one person can hi-jack his own thread and turn it into a literal verbal boxing ring!
It is true, that we Americans tend to “ suffer fools badly” especially those that attack us before the discussion has even started. Chimpanzees, sea gulls..whatever...who calls people these things?? It really is an interesting topic, maybe eventually you will get back to it. No matter, I will go back to my NYTimes analysis of last nights Presidential address. Which has nothing to do with the topic at hand BTW..
 
I must say I really am enjoying following this thread! Amazing how one person can hi-jack his own thread and turn it into a literal verbal boxing ring!
It is true, that we Americans tend to “ suffer fools badly” especially those that attack us before the discussion has even started. Chimpanzees, sea gulls..whatever...who calls people these things?? It really is an interesting topic, maybe eventually you will get back to it. No matter, I will go back to my NYTimes analysis of last nights Presidential address. Which has nothing to do with the topic at hand BTW..

But knowing how smart you are A. reading the NY Times will be far more enjoyable than this thread, I am sure. and more rewarding.

I did that as well this morning, BTW, in addition to reading the WPO, and I learned one truly sad fact: regardless of how much both papers dig up in terms of lies and exaggerated ostentatiousness, Trump did manage to pull too many Americans across the table last night.

But that happens to many nations; theere was a time when the majority of Germans were rooting for Adolf Hitler also, the fellow whos battle cry had been "make Germany great again!"
 
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I had to laugh when I read this part of your oh so smart post above:

Yes... I find that most Americans do not have patience to deal with bitter, angry, destructive, temper tantrum throwing, ignorant dolts
.

Who do I ask you, did you Americans put in the White House in Novemebr of 2016? And who has been keeping him there, for about two years now?

So much for the patience you supposedly don't have!

Americans didn't put anyone in office. The Electoral College did. Yes, the members thereof are Americans but... Politicians and everything along the way is seemingly corrupt.

I still don't know how Clinton got into the finals because I have friends who went to the primaries and although Sanders go more votes, Clinton was still chosen.

We also know you opinion of our :president. But just like everything else, that's YOUR opinion and not everyone shares it.

That being said, I try to stay out of politics and religion. Talks about those things usually don't end well.

You clearly have an agenda as you started this post to be about one thing, then veered.
 
I think the mood determines whether you make love or fuck really hard rough and aggressive. Which everyone it happens to be at the time doesn’t mean I love her anymore or any less.
 
There's a temptation I have been unable to resist, so I am finally giving in to it: telling /my side of the story/ on the subject of making love. I tried to here and there "in dribbles", and oftentimes I earned nothing but snide remarks on what I posted. "So be it", I said to myself, you would not really expect chimpanzees to understand the thinking of Einstein either, would you?

So how do I differ from mainstream Literotica? Item one: fortunately I did not grow up in your country. I "visited" it for a while, but I declined to accept citizenship, and I am still glad about that. Because – as much as I love America, and intellectual Americans in particular – I do not connect very well to many ordinary Americans. Even though I am prepared to admit that many ordinary Americans are the most likeable people on earth for me. Maybe with the exception of certain Italians. If and when you are prepared to "overlook" their failings, like leaning much more than people in other countries to the "teachings" of organized religion.

But one thing ordinary Americans are NOT, as far as I experienced it: experts in love and erotica. It probably has to do with many Americans being religious, and the bible teaches nothing more than fucking. And procreation of course; for a while the only justification for fucking.

So no surprise that "American porn", as I have come to know it, is a mirror of American mainstream thinking. I sometimes claim that "American porn" is an oxymoron, like "Military Intelligence". It is to good porn (French or Italian) like using a hammer for screw driving. Fucking, fucking and fucking all over again, that is what American pornvids look like to me. No wonder so many Americans are hung up on the size of a penis.

IMHO, good sex begins when a couple graduates from fucking. With me it took a while as well. When they begin realizing that the vagina of a woman, and the penis of a man, do NOT possess all that many nerve endings, compared to other human organs.

Now a special case is a woman's clit. Sometimes, when the moon and the stars align perfectly, a female clit gets aroused when her man fucks her vagina. Probably happened to my first wife and me for a while, because – as far as I remember – we only fucked for fairly long. But, as I found out after our separation, for fucking to result in sexual bliss, all of the time or most of the time, the "topography" of both bodies must align more or less perfectly.

A much easier way to reach sexual bliss – so I found – comes from sex 2.0. That kind of sex needs no penetration whatsoever. Joining the vagina with the penis may happen, but that is optional. For hugging and kissing, and for looking one another in the eye, for instance, while some form of sexual union is happening.

Sex 2.0 simply involves so many more organs of the human body, and nerves not originally made for sex. Like the eyes in conjunction with the brain, for instance. I find it one of the most arousing experiences ever, to look at a woman, when we are NOT even touching each other. When we are so far away that I can take in her WHOLE body, not only part of it. When she then either looks at me with a longing in her eyes, or wears a piece of clothing, which accentuates her most erotic part(s), or when she touches herself, for instance.

When she presents a highly erotic image to me, in other words. And maybe I to her as well, although at my age that is difficult to do. Via my horny eyes for her, maybe, or by me speaking sweet or lewd words to her, which entice her. Or also by masturbating for her, showing her the reaction of my cock to her whole sweet and lovely and horny persona.

Now the strangest part of visually arousing one another: every sexual reaction takes place only in the brain. So maybe this is for nerds only? Or other intellectuals? I have never had much sexual fun, I must admit, with a woman who was not intelligent at least, and an intellectual preferable. With both of us sensing sapiosexual leanings, maybe on top of that.

And when we proceed from visually stimulating each other, and when touching begins, in various forms, we enjoy deploying "digits" very densely covered with nerves; fingertips and tips of tongues, for instance. Or, as I remember reading my dearest foe on Lit write lately, sqeezing a pointed nipple into the slit at the tip of a cock. Great idea, Jada!

I maintain that a woman's clit benefits from fucking only under exceptional circumstances, and it can be aroused much better in other ways. No wonder – for instance – that the "Cadillacs" of female love toys are the Womanizer or a Lelo toy, both of which work on the same principle.

It seems to me when a toy maker is able to charge premium prices, THAT shows how desirable such toys are. So much on the subject of big vs small dildos.

Now I do not really expect much positive reaction to this post of mine. Remembering my analogy of the chimpanzees. I don't mind either, if one or the other of you consider me arrogant. Most fans of the blonde somethingorother in the White House consider the rest of America arrogant also. Maybe that always happens to people, who dare violating the tennets of political correctness?

Nevertheless I am curious as to what yall's comments might be. Maybe I as well, can learn something new.

damn your a dumb twat-sicle..

You have no concept of porn... or erotic material either.

Mainstream porn IS meant to get your balls unloaded as quick as possible. And a 20 minute strip tease DOESNT do that...

But don't forget, European porn has things that AMERICAN porn doesn't..

-sex with animals
-under age girls
-forced sex can actually BE forced sex. IE if they don't perform they get "disappeared"
-Lots of porn in Europe is by organized crime using illegally imported sex slaves


Yes its SOOOO much better then American pornography.
 
damn your a dumb twat-sicle..

You have no concept of porn... or erotic material either.

Mainstream porn IS meant to get your balls unloaded as quick as possible. And a 20 minute strip tease DOESNT do that...

But don't forget, European porn has things that AMERICAN porn doesn't..

-sex with animals
-under age girls
-forced sex can actually BE forced sex. IE if they don't perform they get "disappeared"
-Lots of porn in Europe is by organized crime using illegally imported sex slaves

Yes its SOOOO much better then American pornography.

Pocket Shaver, where the hell did you come from? And what gives you the license to talk crap on the subject of pornography?

If you want to illustrate to everybody, how ignorant you are, why can't you just simply start your own post? Instead of selecting a small passage out of a long post of somebody else to pick on?

Starting posts of your own is not all that difficult; Maybe you can find someone, to teach you how to do that. Then you would not have to read other people's posts - and risk not understanding what they write about - and you can dispense as much crap as you like.

Give it a try sometimes!!
 
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