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[JMohegan]

Yeah, see to me it's just a cigar and a donut in the absence of any other information.

Okay, but if I'm talking about *my* intuitive impression of the act, I've already got all the information I need.

 

[Netzach]

Okay, but if I'm talking about *my* intuitive impression of the act, I've already got all the information I need.

I guess my intuition is fed by too many parties among old queens.

 

[Shankara20]

It was like society disliked you if you were gay, but could sorta accept it. Bi was flat out though. And the mental gymnastics taken to consider fucking another man up the ass acceptably straight still confounds me.

What's so difficult?

If you are 100% interested in men, then you are gay. I'm not gay, 'cause I like women - therefor I'm het (well more like "Not Gay").

I do like to see the cock and cum during the money shot of my straight porn - it is a bit of a turn on.
But I'm not really interested in being fucked by a man, so I'm not gay, therefor I'm het.

But if there is this thing called Bi with a range of, oh say, 5% like men sex stuff to 95% like men sex stuff, more or less, and I like to see the cock and cum during the money shot of my straight porn then I might be Bi.

If I'm Bi then I'm not Het.
If I'm not Het I must be Gay!

But if there is no such thing as Bi them I'm Het.
If I'm Het then I'm not Gay!

Problem solved.

What is convoluted about such thinking?

 

[JMohegan]

I guess my intuition is fed by too many parties among old queens.

I guess mine's fed by innate aggressiveness, and urges that may in part have a general cultural source. Hard to say.

By the way, that reminds me, did you see this? What the fuck?

 

[Shankara20]

Dick in ass feels like an act of dominance to me. Every time.

JM - this is not a challenge to your thinking or a ask for personal information.

But I wonder if there is a chance you don't see having something placed in an ass a pleasurable experience in and of itself?

Personal disclosure warning!

I experimented with ass insertion self-play for years before ever inviting a cock into that place. To me, I feel good having in done. When being ass fucked I am receiving physical pleasure, not at all the sort of emotional pleasure I received when I was bottoming.

When I want my ass fucked I can get very Toppy about how it is done and who does the doing.

I accept you POV on this issue. Thanks

 

[intothewoods]

Dick in ass feels like an act of dominance to me. Every time.

*trying extra hard not to imagine that how it sounds*

*really and truly - deserve award for my restraint*

 

[Shankara20]

I guess mine's fed by innate aggressiveness, and urges that may in part have a general cultural source. Hard to say.

By the way, that reminds me, did you see this? What the fuck?

"And tea-bagging queen Rachel Maddow over at MSNBC" = Lou Dobbs unclear of the concept.

 

[Shankara20]

*trying extra hard not to imagine that how it sounds*

*really and truly - deserve award for my restraint*

restraint is its own reward....

 

[intothewoods]

restraint is its own reward....

Yes, Sir.

*damn you are toppy these days*

 

[Shankara20]

Yes, Sir.

*damn you are toppy these days*

Your welcome

 

[Netzach]

"And tea-bagging queen Rachel Maddow over at MSNBC" = Lou Dobbs unclear of the concept.

My reaction as well. That word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

 

[Netzach]

Call me a romantic, but getting up into someone's various orifices = intimacy, for me.

Where that spins off is anyone's guess.

If I want to assert myself sexually, I like to kick them in the ass and masturbate later. Or get them up into my orifices to celebrate. Depends how much I like you.

 

[JMohegan]

JM - this is not a challenge to your thinking or a ask for personal information.

But I wonder if there is a chance you don't see having something placed in an ass a pleasurable experience in and of itself?

Personal disclosure warning!

I experimented with ass insertion self-play for years before ever inviting a cock into that place. To me, I feel good having in done. When being ass fucked I am receiving physical pleasure, not at all the sort of emotional pleasure I received when I was bottoming.

When I want my ass fucked I can get very Toppy about how it is done and who does the doing.

I accept you POV on this issue. Thanks

The problem is that I'm not "bottom-capable," as Netzach called it on the other thread. This applies to a lot of things, and explains why I'm not a switch - even though I understand biology and physiology just fine.

Because of the way I experience the role of penetrator in ass fucking, it's really impossible for me to imagine the role of penetratee as anything other than an act of submission. Intuitively, that's the way it seems to me. Intellectually, I understand that other people see it differently.

 

[JMohegan]

*trying extra hard not to imagine that how it sounds*

*really and truly - deserve award for my restraint*

How does it sound? I have no idea what you're talking about here.

 

[intothewoods]

Apologies, apologies, but, uh, so how does that dick feel again?

Here, I think I inadvertently read it this way in my head:

Dick in my ass feels like an act of dominance to me. Every time.

So sorry. Won't happen again.

 

[JMohegan]

Apologies, apologies, but, uh, so how does that dick feel again?

Here, I think I inadvertently read it this way in my head:



So sorry. Won't happen again.

Ha! That's some fine wishful thinking there, woman.

 

[Homburg]

Why do you see so few FDoms?

What's here for them, really, on the surface?

Conversation.

Maybe I'm being naive here, but that is what I'm here for. You certainly don't post here in some sort of perpetual bottom mind. I don't post here as some sort of extension of my ur-domly nature. I talk. I converse. I would assume that gay men could do the same here, and already see that dominant women can converse here as well.

I am asking to see if there was sort of falling out before I arrived here, or some sort of reputation.

--

What's so difficult?

If you are 100% interested in men, then you are gay. I'm not gay, 'cause I like women - therefor I'm het (well more like "Not Gay").

I do like to see the cock and cum during the money shot of my straight porn - it is a bit of a turn on.
But I'm not really interested in being fucked by a man, so I'm not gay, therefor I'm het.

But if there is this thing called Bi with a range of, oh say, 5% like men sex stuff to 95% like men sex stuff, more or less, and I like to see the cock and cum during the money shot of my straight porn then I might be Bi.

If I'm Bi then I'm not Het.
If I'm not Het I must be Gay!

But if there is no such thing as Bi them I'm Het.
If I'm Het then I'm not Gay!

Problem solved.

What is convoluted about such thinking?

I think I just had a fuse blow.

 

[intothewoods]

Ha! That's some fine wishful thinking there, woman.

Fuck, am I the only person whose mind went there???

 

[Shankara20]

Fuck, am I the only person whose mind went there???

I am saying nooooothing!

 

[Netzach]

Conversation.

Maybe I'm being naive here, but that is what I'm here for. You certainly don't post here in some sort of perpetual bottom mind. I don't post here as some sort of extension of my ur-domly nature. I talk. I converse. I would assume that gay men could do the same here, and already see that dominant women can converse here as well.

I am asking to see if there was sort of falling out before I arrived here, or some sort of reputation.

--

Most people get bored when they don't see other people in their demographic anywhere to be seen, or don't really feel like it's all for them. It's just human nature being what it is. Absolutely no falling out to my knowledge.

It's not just a partner-hunting issue, though. The play styles more common in queer circles are less common in pan/het kink. The M/s mentality is different in some ways. There's always been more emphasis on capable, tangible, practical *service* versus helplessness and dependency, which is the flavor of a lot of hetero M/s relationships. Helplessness and dependency are great fun, mind, I don't mean them in the Dr. Phil sense.

Frankly, I think you'll find them in communities geared toward gay leather primarily.

 

[Homburg]

Most people get bored when they don't see other people in their demographic anywhere to be seen, or don't really feel like it's all for them. It's just human nature being what it is. Absolutely no falling out to my knowledge.

I guess I can see that. Still, while my demographic is represented here, it's not like I tend to actually click with that demographic usually. *shrug* Maybe I'm weird.

It's not just a partner-hunting issue, though. The play styles more common in queer circles are less common in pan/het kink. The M/s mentality is different in some ways. There's always been more emphasis on capable, tangible, practical *service* versus helplessness and dependency, which is the flavor of a lot of hetero M/s relationships. Helplessness and dependency are great fun, mind, I don't mean them in the Dr. Phil sense.

Frankly, I think you'll find them in communities geared toward gay leather primarily.

I figured that was the case. The numbers here do not represent the numbers present in the populace, or at least what I would expect. If 10% of the populace is gay (or whatever it is), I would expect the same percentages to be reflected here. Or any percentage at all, sheesh.

I'm a selfish pig. I want the additional perspective. Different backgrounds bring ideas that might be everyday to those people, but are fresh to others. I like the cross-pollinisation. I remember conversations involving DB and yourself causing me to question my own perception of privilege, for example. Good stuff. Old hat, perhaps to you, but informative as hell for me. Same goes with discussions of Leather memes, or even Gor.

 

[Marquis]

The problem isn't in the definitions, its in the amount of homophobia it takes for someone fucking a dude up the ass to still *need* not to see himself as bi. I don't mean that he's phobic per se, the whole culture is phobic to require this spin.

You mean like that Homburg guy, right?

He's SO gay!

SEE!!!

Sooooooo GAY!!!!

Dick in ass feels like an act of dominance to me. Every time.

Yeah, me too man. Actually I've always wondered if you were a buttfucker.

The problem is that I'm not "bottom-capable," as Netzach called it on the other thread.

You know what this made me think of...

All too literally, I do have occasional problems with hemorrhoids which can make taking a dump an uncomfortable experience. I can only assume my delicate physiology would make me very poor as an anal bottom indeed.

My lover, on the other hand, was clearly built for rectal spelunking and is able to take utterly brutal anal poundings with great dignity.

God, I love that bitch.

 

[RJMasters]

You seem to be applying the one-drop rule in defining sexual orientation here, but perhaps I misunderstood. Would you please clarify?

Sorry for the long delay in response. Ummm...I gave up the one size fits all scenero a long time ago, but based on what you highlighted. My point was simple. From my point of view, I define being gay as one who is attracted and sexually excited or interested in another person of the same sex.

As I mentioned, I think what drives the labido, what arouses a person sexually for me defines the sexual orientation. Thus my conclusion regarding fantasies, is that if you are having fantasies which are about someone who is the same sex as you are, then I would attribute these thoughts to being gay or at least having some gay tendencies.

 

[RJMasters]

Does dick in a hole automatically create a D and an s, or is it sometimes just a cigar?

A cigar through a donut?

I think it can be just a cigar.

I think as you are pointing out that it is possible to enjoy sexual pleasure for just that reason and gender doesn't neccessarily have to play a role in it at all. To coin a phrase, "If it feels good do it."

I get that some have arrived in their own way to a place that I call gender nuetral sexuality. The people I know or have talked to that are like this, do not consider themselves bi, gay, or straight. They are about pleasure, and see no need to bring gender into it as their labido is not attracted to gender as much as it is driven by pleasure.

However, If a person is having fantasies or is sexualy excited because someone "is" of the same gender, that is not gender nuetral and it would not be just a cigar.

 

[RJMasters]

Because of the way I experience the role of penetrator in ass fucking, it's really impossible for me to imagine the role of penetratee as anything other than an act of submission. Intuitively, that's the way it seems to me. Intellectually, I understand that other people see it differently.

Exactly. Well said. Its not about, if it is or isn't pleasurable, nor does it have to do necessarily with be homophobic in any way. It simply just does not jive with my dominant mojo.