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[HisPet21]

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[sr71plt]

Of course, this isn't story feedback for an incest story, it is law review.

This is a literary Web site, and Bram was commenting on the words actually used in a post against what perhaps was really meant. Your post confused me too.

 

[sr71plt]

"Hey, I thought rape and sexual violence was not allowed to be published here!

Oh, wait, never mind, that's just Laurel setting rules and not caring if they're ever enforced.

Carry on and enjoy."--->Lovecraft68

Wait, there's a rule against it? But...but...there is a whole entire section for it!

Also, I re-read the submission guidelines and there seems to be no rule--either in name or practice--against that sort of material. The only limits posted are bestiality and underage players, both of which I have no interest in anyway.

Just so other people know, and don't stray from writing their own nonconsent story if they so desire...

No worries. This is just an old, hypocritical hobby horse Lovecraft68 likes to ride ad nauseaum.

 

[British Filth]

In my experience, the comments (and votes) can sometimes be a little fickle, and occasionally feel a bit tactical.

I see it like this: I'll write what I want, and I'll take constructive criticism on board. If I get a lot of people telling me I'm doing well, and one or two non-constructive abusive comments, I ignore them, plain and simple, especially if they've contributed nothing themselves.

 

[lovecraft68]

"Hey, I thought rape and sexual violence was not allowed to be published here!

Oh, wait, never mind, that's just Laurel setting rules and not caring if they're ever enforced.

Carry on and enjoy."--->Lovecraft68

Wait, there's a rule against it? But...but...there is a whole entire section for it!

Also, I re-read the submission guidelines and there seems to be no rule--either in name or practice--against that sort of material. The only limits posted are bestiality and underage players, both of which I have no interest in anyway.

Just so other people know, and don't stray from writing their own nonconsent story if they so desire...

No, its right here Under FAQ and my story was rejected now what? There is a link to submission guide lines

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=175666

Read the last one. The rule is basically there needs to be some form of enjoyment on behalf of your rape "victim" if not it is sexual violence and is supposed to be rejected.

The rule exists, but is never enforced due to the laziness of the owner. Under age and beasty can also be found.

But I like your point because it is a good one, "How can they not allow those stories when their is a category named after it?

Good question; two word answer

Fucking Hypocrisy.

But not just hypocrisy on the behalf of the alleged "rule maker" but of her resident boo tlicks.

I say there is a rape rule and Pilot and others will say there is not, I'm an asshole and making it up.

Now lets flash forward to some time from now when one of your non con stories gets rejected.

You are going to scratch your head and wonder why. You will then post the question here and be told, well they do not allow rape stories.

Because now that its the owner saying it, now there is a rule.

Then you will say "But I posted these stories before and there are thousands of them here and the category is non consent"

Then Pilot the waffling fraud and the other suck ups here will tell you if you do not like it leave.

Just wait.

 

[joe32112]

The only "taboo but not incest" stories that I've seen involve in-laws. Or I guess you could count step/adoptive relations if you think only biological relations constitute incest. I haven't seen anything "taboo" where "keeping it in the family" is an inaccurate description. (in-laws and step/adopted relations are still "family" despite no blood relation)

In any case, I'm not entirely sure what this conversation has to do with the work we're talking about here. The story was about biological incest between father and daughter.

Overall, I think the story had some interesting ideas but you could have used an editor. In any case, I have a bit of constructive criticism.

A. The story takes place on the daughter's 18th birthday. This is a ridiculous cliche that makes the reader roll their eyes immediately.

B. Misspelling George Clooney's name as "Cluney" is pretty bad and turns the reader off immediately.

C. You need to work on sentence structure, as you have a lot of run on sentences in here. Including the opening one. "It was my eighteenth birthday with no good reason to celebrate because my life had become nothing more than a twenty four seven caregiver to my father who had been stricken with cancer." That sentence is way too long, clunky and complicated and should have been broken up. You also just seem to dump a lot of facts without giving descriptions or emotions.

Imagine something like this:

"Typically, a girl's 18th birthday is cause for celebration. But when mine finally came around? Well, personally, I couldn't think of much worth celebrating. My life was totally and completely consumed by my role as a 24/7 caretaker.

One year ago, my father was diagnosed with lung cancer. (description of what it was like when they found out about it, etc.) I had agreed to become his caretaker, not fully anticipating the effects that such a burdensome task would have on my life."

That being said, the story is definitely not bad. The spelling mistakes and weird sentence structure in the beginning definitely tone down towards the end, but since most of the mistakes are towards

In any case, I hope you continue to write. I think you have a lot of good ideas. I especially liked how you incorporated the guilt, fear and nervousness that would result from an incestuous act - it wasn't "hey family member, you're hot, let's fuck." I hope that for your next story you find an editor who is willing to not only fix spelling/grammar mistakes but also help clean up the sentence structure to make it less clunky and make it flow more naturally.

Thanks for the comments Barry...
I agree that your line structure sounds non-clunky and is literally correct. Though I am far from an expert author, I aimed to tell the story from the mind of an 18 year old girl who , in my opinion, doesn't talk or think as you wrote the example but, with that being said, I totally appreciate your advice and criticism as I plan to keep writing even though I do screenplays for the most part and I would love if you'd respond to this once more, at least, because I found it entertaining as hell. lol

hows that for a run on sentence? cheers

 

[joe32112]

write what you write and take the feedback that comes.

learn.

enjoy.

you forgot, smoke a doobie.......... lol ----- thanks for the advice.

 

[joe32112]

In my experience, the comments (and votes) can sometimes be a little fickle, and occasionally feel a bit tactical.

I see it like this: I'll write what I want, and I'll take constructive criticism on board. If I get a lot of people telling me I'm doing well, and one or two non-constructive abusive comments, I ignore them, plain and simple, especially if they've contributed nothing themselves.

this seems to be the general consensus or suggested advice. I really appreciate your comment, spur.

 

[husband101]

this seems to be the general consensus or suggested advice. I really appreciate your comment, spur.

Have to agree with these comments about ratings and criticism. Have published 5 stories that have been generally quite well received, but have also received venomous comments along with the helpful constructive criticism. In general, I've found:

* Most if not all of the comments from "haters" come from those who have made no story contributions.

* It's counterproductive to reply to "hate" messages. Such commenters are not interested in making constructive suggestions; the whole point of this kind of feedback is to be nasty and vent about how inadequate a person your stories reveal that you must be. You cannot win this argument.

* Responding to "haters" simply invites more nastiness and encourages said and like-minded individuals to low-rate your stories, etc.

* Best advice -- which I am now trying to take myself -- is to IGNORE the trolls and haters and instead focus on those welcome constructive critical comments that you receive.

 

[StinkinThinkin]

I thought it was pretty good stuff, in all honesty, and took the negative comments as nit-picky on the whole. You had a nice emotional dynamic between the characters and it all seemed quite poignant. Keep up the good work.