Have yourselves a Merry Little 4th of July

I plan on a long wonderful day drinking beer, re-reading The Federalist Papers and celebrating treason, and watching lots of explosions.

A happy holiday weekend to anyone who is celebrating anything.
 
oh yea I almost forgot .. bout the red cannabis leaf ... the reason for it is sometimes Canadians (not me no not ever lol) have been heard to say "Happy Cannabis Day"! :)
 
Happy Fourth Everyone and enjoy the fireworks and the family thing!!! As for me I intend on getting a buzz on and grilling some swordfish. Anybody is welcome to come on over and hang with me.
 
Gingersnap said:


Happy Fourth Everyone and enjoy the fireworks and the family thing!!! As for me I intend on getting a buzz on and grilling some swordfish. Anybody is welcome to come on over and hang with me.



I am making my way over Ms. Snappy!
 
Right then Roger, Golden, Stevie, Carl, ShyGuy, Xander, and any others, it looks like we've got the place to ourselves for a couple of days. Don't you just love the smell of americans dissapating in the cold morning air...
 
SURPRIZE FLAGG I will still be hanging about giving you the pleasure of my company and my american wit.. Roger honey let me sit on your lap.
 
Gingersnap, "Roger honey let me sit on your lap" you say? I guess you heard the true stories about the "gorilla with the thrilla." But don't hold your breath, Gingersnap, I heard a rumor that Roger is off fucking chickens.
 
Gingah - don't you listen to Auntie Debs. Go ahead and sit on any part of me ya like, Sweet Thang.

And, by the way, Deborator - get your facts right! They're turkeys not chickens. I've got them defrosting in the microwave as we speak.

Here - have a celebratoty sparkler.
 
Does anyone care that the Declaration of Independence took weeks to sign, and the signing began on July 3rd, and the document wasn't ratified until September, and the United States as it is today didn't exist until 1781 when the Consitution was written?

July 4th was an error in Phildelphia paper, and the mistake has stuck with us ever since. Thomas Jefferson once wrote that July 3rd will become the most important date in American History.

And they say spelling doesn't count.

Ah, who cares. Love them fireworks. BA-BOOM!
 
Actually, if you want to get picky, DCL. It was the Articles of Confederation that were written in 1781. The US Constitution wasn't completed until 1788 (with, I believe, ratification taking into early 1789), and the first officials elected under the Constitution didn't take office until March 4, 1789.

So, technically, our current form of government would be continuous from that date.
 
Damn, your right. And I'm the one who posted that whole "First American President wasn't Washington" thing, because Washington wasn't President under the Articles of Confederation. Forgot about that.

I realized something the other day, that I'm very much a Colonies Boy. You know, I like the Pacific Northwest, and LA is fine and I love the desert and all, but I'm really only happy when I'm in one of the original colonies, preferably North of Trenton.
 
Yeah, okay they started signing it on July 3rd maybe...and it took weeks to sign...but if you look at the original preserved document you'll see right there at the top...in big letters JULY 4, 1776...okay dates in history regarding documents and such can be an arbitrary thing...so most people went with the 4th as the date...

And now a little reminder to all of you Americans and all of you Brits reading this now, of what it is we intend to celebrate and why we did it...
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IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.


He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

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Damn it all, still gives me chills reading this document, and realizing exactly what it was these men intended to do...here was the Revolution folks, the battles that were to take place for the next 5 years were just to determine if this revolution would be successful...

And still one the finest Dear John letters ever written!

Happy Independence Day America,
Havoc :cool:
 
for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

I wasn't sure if that was appropriate for a so-called "Sex Site" until I saw that line about "manly firmness", Havoc. Hehe..

Seriously, though, just an absolutely fantastic document to read. And every time I read those words of Jefferson's it just burns my butt that Clinton likes to think of himself as as Jeffersonian Democrat...

The only thing Jeffersonian about Clinton is that he likes to screw the help.

Thanks for sharing, Havoc. Everyone here should take the time to really read that.
 
Lasher99 said:
The only thing Jeffersonian about Clinton is that he likes to screw the help.

Ha! Ain't that the truth. Clinton seems to be a typical Arkansas politician, in that he's always trying to get away with something! Most of this state's politicians are either in jail or on their way there. I have never heard of so much corruption except in some of those little third world countries where it's a way of life.
 
Boring Americans...

You must be crazy if you think I'm going to read that
 
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