Hi Ku Cat

[HarryHill]

well, well, well... you're just creeped out. you'd never make a dwarf

tight places would not creep me out as long as I was looking in your eyes.

 

[butters]

tight places would not creep me out as long as I was looking in your eyes.

hhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaa

shweet-talker, lmao
kegels, anyone? hahahahhaa

 

[HarryHill]

hhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaa

shweet-talker, lmao
kegels, anyone? hahahahhaa

I thought you were talking about pasty, instead I found a nappy donut. and one and two and three, repeat

 

[HarryHill]

My Ku Nashia
Kmisses Babu
Mi

 

[butters]

My Ku Nashia
Kmisses Babu
Mi

*nods*
so google-fu'd

 

[HarryHill]

*nods*
so google-fu'd

Bing, baby, bing
Search engines are primitive e networks searching for the right ad to place before you

 

[butters]

Bing, baby, bing
Search engines are primitive e networks searching for the right ad to place before you

yeah, i should remember but always end up googling first.

 

[HarryHill]

When Cats Pounce

You usually don't see them,
peeking out their hidey hole
by then it's too late
for both friend and foe

 

[Remec]

why was the well up a hill?
strange water
tables turned

was it all just a plot?

Assumptions and
the power of stereotyped
images, I guess you'd have
to ask Dame Dob or go
straight to the
water-bearers.

Maybe it was just a spring,
or the local water
distributors?

 

[butters]

Assumptions and
the power of stereotyped
images, I guess you'd have
to ask Dame Dob or go
straight to the
water-bearers.

Maybe it was just a spring,
or the local water
distributors?

now this makes me want to go look up the story behind the rhyme... i wonder if it's an english-based story. sounds as if this jack and jill were overreaching themselves and came a cropper in society. 'up the hill'... up the wooden hill was an idiom for going to bed, but i seem to recall something about 'up the hill' being the walk to the gallows... hmmmn. *thinking face*

 

[butters]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_and_Jill_(nursery_rhyme)

so original verse date around the 18th century - others added later.

The rhyme has traditionally been seen as a nonsense verse, particularly as the couple go up a hill to find water, which is often thought to be found at the bottom of hills.[7] Vinegar and brown paper were a home cure used as a method to draw out bruises on the body.[8] The phrase "Jack and Jill", indicating a boy and a girl, was in use in England as early as the 16th century. A comedy was performed at the Elizabethan court in 1567-8 with the title Jack and Jill and the phrase was used twice by Shakespeare: in A Midsummer Night's Dream, which contains the line: "Jack shall have Jill; Nought shall go ill" (III:ii:460-2) and in Love's Labour's Lost, which has the lines: "Our wooing doth not end like an old play; Jack hath not Jill" (V:ii:874–5), suggesting that it was a phrase that indicated a romantically attached couple, as in the proverb "A good Jack makes a good Jill".[1]

Jack is the most common name used in English language nursery rhymes and by the 18th century represented an archetypal Everyman hero,[9] while by the end of the Middle Ages Jill or Gill had come to mean a young girl or a sweetheart.[10] However, the woodcut that accompanied the first recorded version of the rhyme showed two boys (not a boy and a girl), and used the spelling Gill not Jill.[1] This earliest printed version comes from a reprint of John Newbery's Mother Goose's Melody, thought to have been first published in London around 1765

Around 1835 John Bellenden Ker suggested that Jack and Jill were two priests, and this was enlarged by Katherine Elwes in 1930 to indicate that Jack represented Cardinal Wolsey (c.1471–1530); and Jill was Bishop Tarbes, who negotiated the marriage of Mary Tudor to the French king in 1514.[12]

It has also been suggested that the rhyme records the attempt by King Charles I to reform the taxes on liquid measures. He was blocked by Parliament, so subsequently ordered that the volume of a Jack (1/2 pint) be reduced, but the tax remained the same. This meant that he still received more tax, despite Parliament's veto. Hence "Jack fell down and broke his crown" (many pint glasses in the UK still have a line marking the 1/2 pint level with a crown above it) "and Jill came tumbling after". The reference to "Jill", (actually a "gill", or 1/4 pint) is said to reflect that the gill dropped in volume as a consequence.[7]

now i'd lay odds on it being this ^
it was an important issue in its day.

 

[HarryHill]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_and_Jill_(nursery_rhyme)

so original verse date around the 18th century - others added later.




now i'd lay odds on it being this ^
it was an important issue in its day.

I'd wager a couple of pounds you are right

 

[butters]

I'd wager a couple of pounds you are right

that's a safe bet since no-one's likely able to prove it either way

historically, most nursery rhymes have addressed something pretty important socially or economically. And it's true about the crown mark on a lot of pint glasses. it all comes down to money and power in the end. money, mostly

 

[HarryHill]

that's a safe bet since no-one's likely able to prove it either way

historically, most nursery rhymes have addressed something pretty important socially or economically. And it's true about the crown mark on a lot of pint glasses. it all comes down to money and power in the end. money, mostly

Yes well take for example "London bridge is falling down..." I heard that it was about the black plague, or perhaps I confuse it with another rhyme.

 

[butters]

Yes well take for example "London bridge is falling down..." I heard that it was about the black plague, or perhaps I confuse it with another rhyme.

the london bridge nursery rhyme has its roots in the problems of rebuilding london bridge after the fire, or so i believe - but i think it's from older european rhymes adopted and adapted to suit London Bridge.

ring o' roses was (in popular acceptance) linked to the plague

The rhyme has often been associated with the Great Plague which happened in England in 1665, or with earlier outbreaks of the Black Death in England. Interpreters of the rhyme before the Second World War make no mention of this;[16] by 1951, however, it seems to have become well established as an explanation for the form of the rhyme that had become standard in the United Kingdom. Peter and Iona Opie, the leading authorities on nursery rhymes, remarked:

The invariable sneezing and falling down in modern English versions have given would-be origin finders the opportunity to say that the rhyme dates back to the Great Plague. A rosy rash, they allege, was a symptom of the plague, and posies of herbs were carried as protection and to ward off the smell of the disease. Sneezing or coughing was a final fatal symptom, and "all fall down" was exactly what happened.[17][18]

The line Ashes, Ashes in colonial versions of the rhyme is claimed to refer variously to cremation of the bodies, the burning of victims' houses, or blackening of their skin, and the theory has been adapted to be applied to other versions of the rhyme.[19] In its various forms, the interpretation has entered into popular culture and has been used elsewhere to make oblique reference to the plague.[20]

Several folklore scholars regard the theory as baseless for several reasons:

The plague explanation did not appear until the mid-twentieth century.[15]
The symptoms described do not fit especially well with the Great Plague.[18][21]
The great variety of forms makes it unlikely that the modern form is the most ancient one, and the words on which the interpretation are based are not found in many of the earliest records of the rhyme (see above).[19][22]
European and 19th-century versions of the rhyme suggest that this "fall" was not a literal falling down, but a curtsy or other form of bending movement that was common in other dramatic singing games.[23]

 

[butters]

grey and breezy
now
cat leaves the windowsill
questions 'why?' to a closed door?




*i'd better let her out. sulky old girl she is *

 

[HarryHill]

grey and breezy
now
cat leaves the windowsill
questions 'why?' to a closed door?




*i'd better let her out. sulky old girl she is *

..
I have the world in a trembling hand.
My cat's have sought a sunny patch
somewhere in the labyrinth, and since
vanished, leaving me to consider the weight of the Earth
in a palsied hand
stuttering observation
Golden lines of demarcation,
turn

 

[butters]

..
I have the world in a trembling hand.
My cat's have sought a sunny patch
somewhere in the labyrinth, and since
vanished, leaving me to consider the weight of the Earth
in a palsied hand
stuttering observation
Golden lines of demarcation,
turn

how small the world
when held within a hand
distance dissolved
smooth sailing
no bumps
happy landings

and for the palsied hand
warm seas
and held between two pillars
trembling's hushed

 

[painful_rapture]

small packages

in between a wall and a bookshelf
notes from lovers long gone
give life to new passions
in the next generation
hip-hip-hooray for love through the ages

 

[painful_rapture]

cinder blocks
pine planks
frayed tarp
a castle

 

[painful_rapture]

he's stronger than he thinks he is
even after the nine to five
reading stories to her at night
only to read them over again

 

[HarryHill]

how small the world
when held within a hand
distance dissolved
smooth sailing
no bumps
happy landings

and for the palsied hand
warm seas
and held between two pillars
trembling's hushed

..
How small the world
when held by a hand
shared passage
a straight path
level
pleasant arrivals

and for a ghostly hand
fox fur and deer horn
a kiss in the night
flesh to take

 

[painful_rapture]

there are words
and there are
words and they
require more than
I can give
so please give
these symbols your
attention and I
will eventually get
over it as
you wish and
as long as
that is what
you really wish

 

[butters]

in between a wall and a bookshelf
notes from lovers long gone
give life to new passions
in the next generation
hip-hip-hooray for love through the ages

this is lovely

 

[Tsotha]

why was the well up a hill?
strange water
tables turned

was it all just a plot?

cracks along rocks
filtering water down
a dozen trickles become
fountain